JJ Abrams, his $500m Warner Bros deal, and the DCEU.

Joek3rr

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So JJ and his company Bad Robot have signed a $500 million deal with WarnerMedia. And the rumors are he's going to be heading up the hero films. While James Gunn handles the villian films.

Could the DCEU be on board for a come back? And will we finally get Supetman: Flyby?

 
This made the news about a month ago,....Bad Robot ruined Star Trek & Star Wars,......might make a slight improvement to DC

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Doubtful, considering how they screwed up Star Wars and Star Trek. Abrams is an opportunist shyster. It would be hard to do worse with the DCEU, but he's sure not going to make it comparable to the MCU.
 
Star Trek: ruined
Star Wars: ruined
DC: About to be ruined even more which I didn't think was possible

Well, at least there's nothing left for him to ruin after this.....unless.....oh no.....
Does Warner still have the licensing to make Tolkien movies?

For the love of God keep that man away from Middle-Earth.
 
Its just a production deal between a studio and a production house. Given WB's plans to launch their own streaming service, they need all the content providers they can get to compete with Netflix and Disney. I seriously doubt any feature films will come of this. More likely it will be new shows for the streaming platform and probably not featuring any existing IP. But go ahead and continue with the nay saying and predictions of doom. After all, thats what most people are here to do.


WarnerMedia says that under this agreement, Bad Robot will make TV shows under the Warner Bros. Television Group umbrella, but it will still be able to sell those shows to “external outlets.” It also says Bad Robot will honor existing feature film commitments at Paramount — and of course, Disney will release Abrams’ next film as director, “Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker.”
 
Its just a production deal between a studio and a production house...


That's a shame. I would have liked to have seen what a JJ DC hero movie would have looked like. Sure it would have been a different feel from the films that have come before, but that's not exactly a problem given the current DCCU.
 
I really want the DCEU to get a shot in the arm. I would hate for Wonder Women and Shazam to be collateral damage, if the DCEU completely got trashed. If the could do some sort soft reboot dumping Man of Steel and that horrid mess Batman v Superman. That would be awesome. And it would be perfect timing. I'm a little burned out with Marvel. But I'd love see some more Superman and Batman, and the Justice League, done nicely.
 
I know it's unlikely to happen, as it takes planning and foresight and understanding the characters on a level WB execs so very don't, but I would love to see a proper DCU start with something like Wonder Woman. Have her struggling to create an actual peace between world wars, show her absolute frustration when it all falls apart, use the Great Depression as a backdrop to introduce Superman and build from there. Alan Scott and Jay Garrick, Carter Hall, a certain enchanted Corinthian helmet, the Justice Society...

Carry it forward a generation or so. Diana and Clark are borderline ageless. Show them adapting to the changing world around them, the heroes they worked with getting to old to continue, new heroes rising to take their places. Barry Allen, Hal Jordan, evolve the lore of the Speed Force and the lanterns. Have Clark discover he's not the sole surviving Kryptonian through the person of his cousin (and let her wear a full Kryptonian bodysuit, too, rather than a one-piece or minidress).

Keep the setting progressing. Booster Gold, Guy Gardner, John Stewart, Kyle Raynor, Wally West, Bruce Wayne, Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Tim Drake, Firestorm, Oliver Queen, Dinah Lance, and so on. As the MCU has added to the roster, focused on some central characters, while others so far are supporting/secondary characters, and first-generation heroes are handing things over organically to the more recent ones, something similarly well put together could so easily be done with DC. *sigh*
 
I know it's unlikely to happen, as it takes planning and foresight and understanding the characters on a level WB execs so very don't, but I would love to see a proper DCU start with something like Wonder Woman. Have her struggling to create an actual peace between world wars, show her absolute frustration when it all falls apart, use the Great Depression as a backdrop to introduce Superman and build from there. Alan Scott and Jay Garrick, Carter Hall, a certain enchanted Corinthian helmet, the Justice Society...

Carry it forward a generation or so. Diana and Clark are borderline ageless. Show them adapting to the changing world around them, the heroes they worked with getting to old to continue, new heroes rising to take their places. Barry Allen, Hal Jordan, evolve the lore of the Speed Force and the lanterns. Have Clark discover he's not the sole surviving Kryptonian through the person of his cousin (and let her wear a full Kryptonian bodysuit, too, rather than a one-piece or minidress).

Keep the setting progressing. Booster Gold, Guy Gardner, John Stewart, Kyle Raynor, Wally West, Bruce Wayne, Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Tim Drake, Firestorm, Oliver Queen, Dinah Lance, and so on. As the MCU has added to the roster, focused on some central characters, while others so far are supporting/secondary characters, and first-generation heroes are handing things over organically to the more recent ones, something similarly well put together could so easily be done with DC. *sigh*
That is a fantastic idea. One of my favorite stories is The New Frontier. I would love to see it adapted in the DCU. Start off in the Golden Age and then slowly reach the Silver Age and beyond. Love it.
 
To which I find these things to be fair and equitable assessments of the nature of big franchises like these. While there is built in customer base and money to be made (from a producers stand point) it also is crucial to the success of these types of films to put people in charge who have a true understanding of the material and history/ It's largely done wonders for Marvel and their MCU.

Often the problems arise when a studio is more interested in following trends because market research alone is primary factor in the decision making process and not about creating quality content. The irony in that is that it's a short sighted perspective and if they were to take a look at the larger picture they would see there is more of a profit to be made by delivering better films because people will continue to pay as long as the content is good. Obviously Marvel is the best example of this because they have made over 20 films and made billions in revenue. This wasn't because the market research dictated it. They literally created the general market by making superhero films accessible to the masses. It's because they put the right people in charge and trusted the source material rather than question it.

Again, I'm personally more interested in smaller scale content like much of what is being released by streaming services long form storytelling, but I think if these tentpoles are going to work then they need a structure built on a love for the material rather that on focus groups calling the shots. This may be a business but if it is robbed of all of it's artistic integrity people subconsciously `pick up on that and stop watching.
 
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