James Bond 25 (Shatterhand)

seelsa73

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Re: Craig will be Bond again

I'd like to see his Bond be killed at the end of the next film, and the new film be basically an adoption of the "James Bond is a code name" theory.
I hate that theory. There's no need for that at all. If they want to mix things up with different actors of differing races/ethnicities they should either reboot every time they change actors (which I also hate), or use the 007 title as an excuse. The series doesn't necesarily need a James Bond.



Here is why his movies suffer:
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* Traditional Bond music is not used throughout the films. We hear it at the opening scene, and then when the end credits roll. Disgraceful. May as well be a Bourne movie.
Amen to that. I don't understand their aversion to using the theme more than once. It was fine for the first two movies as they said it was purposeful because they felt the character hadn't "earned" it yet, but after that there was no reason to avoid it.
 
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CessnaDriver

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Re: Craig will be Bond again

Just do a 008 spinoff and his name can be Rufus Flastermoucher or something,
00s all have amazing adventures it seems, Bond is one person and that was his name.
Hell what about Felix? Combine all his screen time there might be two hours there already.
 

The Wook

Master Member
Re: Craig will be Bond again

Amen to that. I don't understand their aversion to using the theme more than once. It was fine for the first two movies as they said it was purposeful because they felt the character hadn't "earned" it yet, but after that there was no reason to avoid it.
I never heard them offer up that excuse--which I find totally lame, btw. Who said it? Do you have a link for that?

Thanks,

The Wook
 

Gimpdiggity

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Re: Craig will be Bond again

Casino Royals was an awesome film.
Quantum of Solace was very mediocre...not terrible but not good.
Skyfall was amazing. I loved it.
Spectre was so "meh" I barely remember watching it.

By this pattern, the next film should be good, right?

I actually really like Craig as Bond...so I'm happy to see him back, I just hope the story doesn't let me down.
 

CessnaDriver

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Re: Craig will be Bond again

I too have been disappointed on the score at times, I miss some variation of Barry's classic "007" theme.
This would have been so great during the car chase in SPECTRE. Damn them!

 
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The Wook

Master Member
Re: Craig will be Bond again

I too have been disappointed on the score at times, I miss some variation of Barry's classic "007" theme.
This would have been so great during the car chase in SPECTRE. Damn them!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdWtGXaRepQ
Yes, that's what I'm talkin' about! But not just high-action scenes. I want Bond music even when he's just creeping around...like in this amazing scene! I love how the music kicks in when 007 jumps the security guard! (If you wanna skip ahead, begin watching around the 0:40 mark.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0CYU3j27TI

The Wook
 

Vee

New Member
Re: Craig will be Bond again

Casino Royale was the movie most close to the book. When Fleming was alive he sold the rights to his books.....title only. The movies dont come close to any of what was written by Fleming. Thunderball rights were owned by a couple of people thus the two versions. If they would only make the movies like the books they would be making a lot of people happy. If you doubt this, read one of the books. The best Bond was Connery, the best movie was Casino Royale, the worst Bond was Roger Moore, who should be in hiding with the stupid way he played the character. Its only my opinion, but Ive been around since there were only books to read before the movies started and Ive seen them all. I also think that Donald Duck could have been Bond in Casino Royale and it would still have been a hit. If you ever saw Craig in the movie Road to Perdition, you cant imagine him as Bond. But the writting, the music and everything else came together matching the book fairly closely so Craig was accepted as doing a good job. It was a combination of a lot of things that helped him.
 

Wes R

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Re: Craig will be Bond again

I've been disappointed with every Bond film since he was Bond, it isn't even him it's just the writing and direction. I miss the lighthearted Bond scenes you'd get even if they were silly. His Bond is basically a British Jason Bourne and nothing more. You know it's bad when if given a choice I'd watch Dalton's Bond over this new one.
 

seelsa73

Sr Member
Re: Craig will be Bond again

I never heard them offer up that excuse--which I find totally lame, btw. Who said it? Do you have a link for that?

Thanks,

The Wook
I wanna say one of the bts featurettes on the CR or QoS blu-ray.

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The Terminator

Master Member
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Re: Craig will be Bond again

Prediction:
After this film, the next Bond film will probably be a remake of Dr. No

*sigh*
 

MooCriket

Master Member
Re: Craig will be Bond again

Lol, just read that Hiddleston lost the part due to being to smug, and not tough enough. I agree on the tough part, but still..I would like to have seen him in the role. Say what you fill about the forgettable Craig films, he does have something going for him besides a crapload of cash. That hot chick from the Mummy as his wife.
 

Mr Webber

Master Member
Re: Craig will be Bond again

If Craig and the studio can give an all plums in finale to his time in the role and somehow set Idris Elba up for the baton change it would work for me.
 

J EM

Well-Known Member
Re: Craig will be Bond again

I don't think Bond will ever go back to being the charismatic campy Bond. I don't know where I heard it, but apparently Austin Powers ruined that about the Bond franchise and the franchise needed to be retooled as more serious, more realistic to compete in modern times.


I've enjoyed his films, but I think he's near the end of his tenure in the role. I'd like to see his Bond be killed at the end of the next film, and the new film be basically an adoption of the "James Bond is a code name" theory.
I also would like to see Craig's Bond be killed. It'll finally make sense of some little things in the past that have hinted at 'James Bond is a codename.'

Cool beans man. Also Sources have a list of Bond girls they are looking at for the new movie. Marion cotillard ( good choice) Katy perry ( wtf) and of course Rachel Weisz ( my pick and his wife).
Katy Perry...maybe they'll borrow from The World is Not Enough's nuclear physicist. heheh. Seriously though. Katy Perry. Wtf. Why not Beyonce! :)

I hate that theory. There's no need for that at all. If they want to mix things up with different actors of differing races/ethnicities they should either reboot every time they change actors (which I also hate), or use the 007 title as an excuse. The series doesn't necesarily need a James Bond.
The theory has been around for a few decades. It has nothing to do with the recent trend of wanting diversity in film/television, wanting actors of different race/ethnicity play already established characters.
 

Wes R

Legendary Member
Re: Craig will be Bond again

Craig keeps using Austin Powers as an excuse, I just don't think the writers have it in them to write the movies that way and the franchise suffers for it. I'd rather see more Austin Powers than these new Bond films, they can't even manage Connery era Bond quality.
 

J EM

Well-Known Member
Re: Craig will be Bond again

Craig keeps using Austin Powers as an excuse, I just don't think the writers have it in them to write the movies that way and the franchise suffers for it. I'd rather see more Austin Powers than these new Bond films, they can't even manage Connery era Bond quality.
lol It is the excuse Craig uses but I really think, for them, it makes sense.

I thought the "Bond is a code name" nonsense was put to rest when they show his parents' headstones in "Skyfall."
007 is the codename but there are a few things in past movies, mainly what Lazenby Bond said, that can make one speculate on whether the name James Bond is also part of the codename. There's also the fact that Skyfall's villain also used a different name during his tenure as 00 and the repeating "cover name" crap of Qos. James Bond is the name of Craig's Bond but in the event that an actor who is not white will play Bond some day which is plausible, the theory will resurface and to best make sense of it, Craig's Bond has to die. I doubt he'll just retire and be ok with his identity being used.
 
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