Is Darth Vader's saber blade painted (ANH) & blade flexing.

[vadermania]

For the record I bet my life the v3 never spun...

I heard a different story just today, can't go into details yet - but perhaps somebody else could chime in at a later point

 

[Halliwax]

I heard a different story just today, can't go into details yet - but perhaps somebody else could chime in at a later point

Ohhhh don’t tease me

 

[vadermania]

Correct... I noticed when I apply it onto the pole the material tends to fall off.. again you don’t see it on you but you can feel sandy material on your fingers

I would never never guessed there was that much debris on my pants when I took the picture I kinda laughed

I sent the picture to a friend as a joke, but now have a new “old” phone and don’t have those pictures on this one, had him send me the pic back, that’s why the resolution sucks

My mission this weekend is to make a square tapered blade..

I have a jointer in the if shop but I’d have to move so much crap, then set it up.. I’m just gonna try and taper the square dowel Down with a electric plane...

I think pine dowels at Lowe’s/Home Depot will be to heavy...

Count me in for a (square) bladed spinning Luke ANH stunt once the (blade) mission is accomplished

 

[Halliwax]

Count me in for a (square) bladed spinning Luke ANH stunt once the (blade) mission is accomplished

I don’t know if it will work on my legend edition.. last time I felt then dowels at Lowe’s there were pine and I figured they were to heavy

They may actually be poplar...

I’m gonna try like hell this weekend.. see how it works out

The golf clubs are feather light and I knew I wouldn’t have a problem spinning them.. this dowel... eeeehhhh... idk

 

[kurtyboy]

d) The Luke Graflex stunt with black emitter is not spinning.

The Barbican appears in two shots at least. Doesn't appear to be spinning though.

Yes, Jon said that round balsa wood sticks were used.

I now tend to believe that both round, square and possibly even triangular blades have been used on the practical "spinning" lightsabers for ANH production. Plus, some of the blades were static, non-spinning blades such as Darth's blade in the Obi/Darth duel.

a) introduction of the lightsaber in Ben's hut, first ignition: "Graflex" type stunt spinning saber, square or triangular blade

b) Obi cutting off Walrus man's arm in Cantina: Obi V2 or V3 stunt spinning saber, round or square blade?

c) Luke training with remote on Falcon: "Graflex" type stunt spinning saber, square or triangular blade

d) Obi vs. Vader fight on Deathstar: "Graflex" type stunt spinning saber with black tip, round static blade (Vader), Obi V2 (and V3?) stunt spinning saber, round or square blade? plus Obi V2 or V3 stunt (spinning saber), round blade, non-spinning for Obi death scene.

Do we have confirmation that the "Barbican" was used on screen in the Vader/Obi duel? I have only seen it on two or three bts stills from ANH so far. In the new STW archives book it says that they were unable/had problems to hide the stunt lightsaber cables on Vaders costume, so they went with a "static" lightsaber.

 

[kurtyboy]

Anyone got evidence of the V2 emitter spinning on screen? I didn't find any so far in the duel in 4K at least, but I'll have another look.

 

[Halliwax]

Anyone got evidence of the V2 emitter spinning on screen? I didn't find any so far in the duel in 4K at least, but I'll have another look.

V2 spins and you can even hear the motor, check this out at :31 they forgot to edit the electronic motor sound, it only lasts 1 second or 2

There are also multiple black and white behind the scene video clips of the emitter spinning

The emitter is slightly off center, so you can see it kinda wobbling

 

[Halliwax]

You can see the emitter spinning really good here @1:40 also listen to the motors sound, then go back to the pervious clip I linked ya and you can hear the same sound for the 1-2 secs “only a master of evil darth”

 

[kurtyboy]

I'll check it out when I get home. I know the blade spins but the emitter didn't appear to be in some shots at least.

 

[Halliwax]

I'll check it out when I get home. I know the blade spins but the emitter didn't appear to be in some shots at least.

Emitter spins for sure watch the lighting on it change, you can even seen the emitter spinning in the de specialized edition

The remastered versions the rotoscoping tends to cover the emitter too much

 

[Halliwax]

More at the end of this video.. cantina, watch the emitter when he brings it over his chest, then it stops spinning

Death Star same scene, little bit longer watch the emitter color vs the color of his hands

 

[Mouse Vader]

Why are you going for pine when we've info it's balsa? Waiting for me to do that one?

 

[thd9791]

I can't wait for story #2 that Vadermania is talking about!

Thanks kurtyboy, I knew i saw the barbican in there somewhere.

Halliwax might just be trying what's readily available to him to start with, I don't have anything to taper blades like that so I'm excited for what folks come up with

 

[Halliwax]

Why are you going for pine when we've info it's balsa? Waiting for me to do that one?

Im experimenting, if I can’t make this pole out of pine then I’m not going to waste the time making it out of balsa..

I can also buy this stuff Saturday morning and work on it Saturday afternoon.. where as I have to hunt down balsa square stock..

 

[vadermania]

d) The Luke Graflex stunt with black emitter is not spinning.

The Barbican appears in two shots at least. Doesn't appear to be spinning though.
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Thanks for clarifying kurt, good eye!

Could it be that the Luke Graflex stunt with the black emitter and the round static stunt blade from the Obi/Vader duel is a different hilt than the Luke Graflex stunt with the square/triangular blade from the lightsaber intruduction in Obi‘s hut?

 

[vadermania]

More at the end of this video.. cantina, watch the emitter when he brings it over his chest, then it stops spinning

Death Star same scene, little bit longer watch the emitter color vs the color of his hands

Obi‘s blade isn‘t tapered, or do my eyes fool me?

 

[Halliwax]

Obi‘s blade isn‘t tapered, or do my eyes fool me?

I think it’s the spinning glow tricking us the Luke motorized stunt we know is tapered and it doesn’t look tapered when spinning either

It’s all a mess man lol

 

[vadermania]

I think it’s the spinning glow tricking us the Luke motorized stunt we know is tapered and it doesn’t look tapered when spinning either

It’s all a mess man lol

A mess, really...when I asked Jon about a taper on the balsa blades he said they weren‘t tapered...

Cmon, at least the Luke Graflex stunt has a tapered square or triangular blade...

 

[thd9791]

More at the end of this video.. cantina, watch the emitter when he brings it over his chest, then it stops spinning

Death Star same scene, little bit longer watch the emitter color vs the color of his hands

Has anyone looked at the V2s nipple during these blade discussions? I see a distortion or flicker near the nipple that always looked like a rotating corner to me.

 

[Mouse Vader]

I have - it's what I take to be scotchlite coming adrift from blade to blade contact, which is often in that area in blade 'lockups' . If the black stripe is an absence of tape, exposing the black painted core (why would they paint it if it wasn't to be seen) then there will be an exposed edge waiting to get pulled. The distortion is on the correct edge for peeling with regard to blade spin.