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Dudemeyster
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Re: Specific Photo of President Eisenhower needed for prop replica
I really like finding stuff like this because it feels so good when you finally succeed. Alas, this was not one of those times. I was able to learn some information that might help you or others find the pic though.
The picture was taken in the Oval Office during one of his radio/television addresses. I am 99% sure it's from his farewell address at the end of his second term as president (January 17, 1961).
These photos are from that address and are found on the LIFE.com archive (the dates on the photos are off by 16 days , I don't know why. There was no address on the date listed). I went through their entire Eisenhower collection but came up empty.
Dwight D. Eisenhower - Photo - LIFE
Dwight D. Eisenhower - Photo - LIFE
James C. Hagerty;Dwight D. Eisenhower;Robert Montgomery - Photo - LIFE
These are also from the same address:
http://images.publicradio.org/content/2011/01/19/20110119_eisenhower-farewell-address_33.jpg
http://onpoint.wbur.org/files/2011/01/Ike_500.jpg
It may not look as though the background of the picture in question matches these, but if the photographer is further to the right like this one was:
http://hosted.ap.org/specials/interactives/wdc/oval_office/multimedia/eisenhower.jpg
You can see that the flag is lined up with the curtain, and another step to the right and his head will be blocking it like it is in the picture:
http://i.imgur.com/N2KrV.jpg
My second reason for believing it is this address is that he is using a white pen or pencil to make notations. I found this video from the BBC that has a clip that has him holding that pen and seemingly ends seconds before the photo was taken (you can even see camera flashes).
YouTube - Eisenhower Farewell Address -- Military Industrial Complex‏
EDIT: The camera flashes aren't really visible in that one but you can see them in this version:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1a7_1190842363
My final reason is that there don't seem to be many pictures of his other addresses with this setup (background, microphones, etc.) because they weren't nearly as noteworthy. The only ones I could find are also in the LIFE.com archives and are from around the same period. Most with him wearing the wrong colour suit or not having his glasses.
I hope this helps, and if I'm wrong, I'm sorry I sent you down the wrong path.
Incidentally, it should be fairly easy to cobble together a reasonable facsimile of the photo using photoshop and the photos available. There are thousands to draw from in the LIFE.com archive.
I really like finding stuff like this because it feels so good when you finally succeed. Alas, this was not one of those times. I was able to learn some information that might help you or others find the pic though.
The picture was taken in the Oval Office during one of his radio/television addresses. I am 99% sure it's from his farewell address at the end of his second term as president (January 17, 1961).
These photos are from that address and are found on the LIFE.com archive (the dates on the photos are off by 16 days , I don't know why. There was no address on the date listed). I went through their entire Eisenhower collection but came up empty.
Dwight D. Eisenhower - Photo - LIFE
Dwight D. Eisenhower - Photo - LIFE
James C. Hagerty;Dwight D. Eisenhower;Robert Montgomery - Photo - LIFE
These are also from the same address:
http://images.publicradio.org/content/2011/01/19/20110119_eisenhower-farewell-address_33.jpg
http://onpoint.wbur.org/files/2011/01/Ike_500.jpg
It may not look as though the background of the picture in question matches these, but if the photographer is further to the right like this one was:
http://hosted.ap.org/specials/interactives/wdc/oval_office/multimedia/eisenhower.jpg
You can see that the flag is lined up with the curtain, and another step to the right and his head will be blocking it like it is in the picture:
http://i.imgur.com/N2KrV.jpg
My second reason for believing it is this address is that he is using a white pen or pencil to make notations. I found this video from the BBC that has a clip that has him holding that pen and seemingly ends seconds before the photo was taken (you can even see camera flashes).
YouTube - Eisenhower Farewell Address -- Military Industrial Complex‏
EDIT: The camera flashes aren't really visible in that one but you can see them in this version:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1a7_1190842363
My final reason is that there don't seem to be many pictures of his other addresses with this setup (background, microphones, etc.) because they weren't nearly as noteworthy. The only ones I could find are also in the LIFE.com archives and are from around the same period. Most with him wearing the wrong colour suit or not having his glasses.
I hope this helps, and if I'm wrong, I'm sorry I sent you down the wrong path.
Incidentally, it should be fairly easy to cobble together a reasonable facsimile of the photo using photoshop and the photos available. There are thousands to draw from in the LIFE.com archive.
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Re: Specific Photo of President Eisenhower needed for prop replica
I think this New York Times picture from January 18, 1961 was taken by the same photographer. So the photo we are looking for would be a "United Press International" photo taken on January 17, 1961.
I think this New York Times picture from January 18, 1961 was taken by the same photographer. So the photo we are looking for would be a "United Press International" photo taken on January 17, 1961.
mgbeach
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Re: Specific Photo of President Eisenhower needed for prop replica
I don't think that this is from the farewell... as you can see in this image from the farewell address, there is an American flag just to the right of the dark curtain.
That is the same curtain that intersects Ike's head in the photo in question, and there's no flag to the right..
I don't think that this is from the farewell... as you can see in this image from the farewell address, there is an American flag just to the right of the dark curtain.
That is the same curtain that intersects Ike's head in the photo in question, and there's no flag to the right..
Re: Specific Photo of President Eisenhower needed for prop replica
The 2 photos were not taken by the same photographer. The one I need was taken by a photographer standing several feet further to the right, causing a shift in visual perspective compared to the clearer photo. The flag is still barely visible just behind Eisenhower's head in the other photo.
Also, the microphone that is visible below Ike's hand in the clear photo is the same one that is about even with his right sleeve in the other pic. Also due to the perspective shift from the photographers standing in different positions. I know it's kind of hard to see, because I had to paint out a watermark that was present on the reference photo. Also the reference image is warped and skewed, so it is not going to match perfectly anyway.
See the newspaper image above and compare this one. I'm almost certain it has to be from the same address.
The 2 photos were not taken by the same photographer. The one I need was taken by a photographer standing several feet further to the right, causing a shift in visual perspective compared to the clearer photo. The flag is still barely visible just behind Eisenhower's head in the other photo.
Also, the microphone that is visible below Ike's hand in the clear photo is the same one that is about even with his right sleeve in the other pic. Also due to the perspective shift from the photographers standing in different positions. I know it's kind of hard to see, because I had to paint out a watermark that was present on the reference photo. Also the reference image is warped and skewed, so it is not going to match perfectly anyway.
See the newspaper image above and compare this one. I'm almost certain it has to be from the same address.
stromo
Well-Known Member
Re: Specific Photo of President Eisenhower needed for prop replica
Sorry if this sounds like a stupid question, but are you sure a sharp, clean photo exists? This looks like a photo of a TV screen.
I am looking for a sharp, clean version of this photo of President Eisenhower:
I will give a full set of my BTTF newspapers to the first person who can
identify the photo and provide a link to a good clear version of the correct
image without any watermarks or other issues.
Thanks!
Sorry if this sounds like a stupid question, but are you sure a sharp, clean photo exists? This looks like a photo of a TV screen.
Re: Specific Photo of President Eisenhower needed for prop replica
Yes, Here it is in the original prop.
Both of these photos are of the production made newspapers.
It looks so bad in the other photo because it's has been enlarged, skewed, straightened, and had a huge watermark removed in that photo. If the original photo was available to the company that printed these in LA in 1985 then another copy must exist somewhere.
Yes, Here it is in the original prop.
Both of these photos are of the production made newspapers.
It looks so bad in the other photo because it's has been enlarged, skewed, straightened, and had a huge watermark removed in that photo. If the original photo was available to the company that printed these in LA in 1985 then another copy must exist somewhere.
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Re: Specific Photo of President Eisenhower needed for prop replica
Bump.
I still need this photo and I'm afraid my photoshop skills are nowhere near good
enough to pull off something like this.
I don't want to use an inaccurate photo for my replica. :confused
There has to be another copy of this photo somewhere.
Bump.
I still need this photo and I'm afraid my photoshop skills are nowhere near good
enough to pull off something like this.
I don't want to use an inaccurate photo for my replica. :confused
There has to be another copy of this photo somewhere.
mgbeach
Well-Known Member
Re: Specific Photo of President Eisenhower needed for prop replica
Maybe this information will help you..
Dwight D. Eisenhower Presidential Library
Attn: Audiovisual Archives
200 Southeast Fourth Street
Abilene, Kansas 67410
General phone number: 785-263-6700
Toll Free: 1-877-746-4453
General facsimile number: 785-263-6718
E-mail address: eisenhower.library@nara.gov
Maybe this information will help you..
Dwight D. Eisenhower Presidential Library
Attn: Audiovisual Archives
200 Southeast Fourth Street
Abilene, Kansas 67410
General phone number: 785-263-6700
Toll Free: 1-877-746-4453
General facsimile number: 785-263-6718
E-mail address: eisenhower.library@nara.gov
Re: Specific Photo of President Eisenhower needed for prop replica
I'm still waiting on a reply from the Eisenhower Library.
I mailed them a letter with the copy of the photo as I posted it here.
Hopefully there is enough information for them to find it.
I'm still waiting on a reply from the Eisenhower Library.
I mailed them a letter with the copy of the photo as I posted it here.
Hopefully there is enough information for them to find it.
Re: Photoshop Expert needed for Ike newspaper photo
Ok, I need the help of a Photoshop expert for this. I have a lot of similar photos, and a lot of photos taken at the same event. Can anyone help me? The offer still stands for a full set free to anyone who can do so.
Ok, I need the help of a Photoshop expert for this. I have a lot of similar photos, and a lot of photos taken at the same event. Can anyone help me? The offer still stands for a full set free to anyone who can do so.
