If you put a dent in a Clonetrooper or Stormtrooper

[Darthmagpie]

I am doing a battle damaged Episode 2 clonetrooper. I want to put a couple serious dents in the helmet. I want it to be silver beaneath, but I don't think I have seen that. So in-universe, if you put a dent in a Clonetrooper or Stormtrooper Helmet. Is it silver(metal) beaneath?

Thanks, Ben

 

[Sporak]

Just my comment and I'm far from an expert on troopers...but if you were going to dent the helmet, it would kind of have to be metal...otherwise it would be "broken" plastic.

 

[OldKen]

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I am doing a battle damaged Episode 2 clonetrooper. I want to put a couple serious dents in the helmet. I want it to be silver beaneath, but I don't think I have seen that. So in-universe, if you put a dent in a Clonetrooper or Stormtrooper Helmet. Is it silver(metal) beaneath?

Thanks, Ben
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All i saw in Ep2 was black scarring, no "dents" persay... but i havent watched the PT movies with a fine tooth comb the way i have the OT.

But i really firmly believe, that we dont EVER see a dented helmet... well not on a trooper anyway.

Im going to keep an eye on this thread as that is an interesting question, im eager to hear what the resident PT troop experts think on this one.

 

[DL 44 Blaster]

If the "official" term for Stormtrooper armor is "Impervium", then it can only be speculative that Clone armor is the same. That being said, more research would have to be done on the properties of Impervium to see if it would bend or break.

I'd say do whatever your heart desires :thumbsup

 

[Jumpin Jax]

Storm and clonetrooper armor is made of plasteel, likened to kevlar of our universe. No metal underneath, the material itself is white throughout.

It bends and breaks, does not dent.

 

[Chrpica]

I was under the impression (dont ask from where), that the armor is a plastic/metal combination, and it's molded from white, not painted white, so i would imagine it would be white.

 

[Raffles]

I think it's supposed to be some sort of ceramic/metal stuff.

 

[niennumb1]

I like how it's called impervium, yet so many troops get shot once and die so quickly when shot at. HAHAAH.

 

[Darth Lars]

Jango Fett's armor definitely looks like it was metal, and it was probably the same reused by Boba Fett later, where the metal showed through the dents and scratches.
Because Jango Fett's armor and the Ep2 clonetrooper armor had visual similiarities, I would guess that there would have been similiarities in material as well. The material used for trooper armor could have changed later on as the design of the armor evolved.

What do we know of "plasteel" anyway? Maybe it is a sandwhich of metal-plastic-metal-plastic..., or a composite material with a "plastic" mesh (aramid fibers like kevlar has?) encased in a metal medium. Maybe the term would cover a broad range of plastic-metal combo materials with widely varying properties.
I would label "Imperivm" as a brand-name, in the same way that Kevlar and Spectra are brand-names for almost the same kind of fiber.

There are clonetroopers in Episode 3 where the armor has edge wear, with something dark grey where the paint would have worn off. I expect that that is supposed to be metal.

Conclusion: I think metal is OK. Just don't overdo it.

 

[Vaderman]

If you were a bounty hunter, you would probably go with the beefiest armor you could wear.
If you were a giant corporation or empire and had to fit thousands (millions?) of cloned troopers, you might go for something more mass produced and less expensive. The clones may be cheaper then good metal armor, after all.

 

[lesternessman]

I like the idea and look of metal under the helmet. There's a fella over on rebelscum that was working on an un-related project, wherein his posted gallery, he has a clone helmet primed in chrome paint, dented/weathered to reveal the chrome beneath the white. It looks fantastic. Here's a link to his gallery...the helmet is at the very bottom...
Weathered Clone Helmet

edit...I'm not saying there is silver underneath, because as the clone experts have stated, it's probably white throughout. I'm just saying I think it looks cool.

 

[slave1pilot]

No.

 

[Jumpin Jax]

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Jango Fett's armor definitely looks like it was metal, and it was probably the same reused by Boba Fett later, where the metal showed through the dents and scratches.
Because Jango Fett's armor and the Ep2 clonetrooper armor had visual similiarities, I would guess that there would have been similiarities in material as well. The material used for trooper armor could have changed later on as the design of the armor evolved.

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Jango's armor was made by completely different people. Storm and clonetrooper armor has always been referred to as plasteel, not metal. It was not built to stand heavy abuse, whereas Fett armor was. NO metal involved.

 

[Chrpica]

Yeah, the more I think about it the less I think it's possible to have a metal clone trooper helmet.

In one book, I think it was Jedi Healer, it says that the armor offered practically no protection, and I'm sure a sort of metal would be decent.

Copied from Wookiepedia:

"Plasteel, sometimes called Plastisteel, was a material that combined acrylic polymers and metal alloys. Plasteel retained the elastic strength of plastics while benefiting from the strength and heat resistance of metal."

Seems like it's a solid substance, not layered.

 

[Jayn]

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Plasteel

 

[Darthmagpie]

OK, so I guess what I am hearing(or reading) is that I could get away with it because the material charicteristics are not completly identified/known/agreed upon, and it might look good. But if i were to wear it to a gathering of RPFers don't be surprised if the room separated into 2 groups and the switch blades come out. :lol

 

[DL 44 Blaster]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darthmagpie @ Apr 9 2007, 06:34 PM) [snapback]1458859[/snapback]</div>

OK, so I guess what I am hearing(or reading) is that I could get away with it because the material charicteristics are not completly identified/known/agreed upon, and it might look good. But if i were to wear it to a gathering of RPFers don't be surprised if the room separated into 2 groups and the switch blades come out. :lol
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That could happen over any topic especially Troopers :lol

 

[Predatormv]

Yea I am on the side of the arguement that says no to the silver. If you look close at the Ep2 and 3 troopers you won't see silver scratches anywhere. Lots of black scuff marks but not silver. I think the material is white through and through.

But as a side note, it is your helmet, do what you want with it. If you want silver then paint silver on it. As far as accuracy goes no it won't be totally accurate but really who cares.

But as a side note, it is your helmet, do what you want with it. If you want silver then paint silver on it. As far as accuracy goes no it won't be totally accurate but really who cares.

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

The Hasbro 3 3/4" Clonetroopers mostly have a black or dark steel color where they are dented. My Kotobukiya ROTS Clonetrooper also has that color.

 

[Jumpin Jax]

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The Hasbro 3 3/4" Clonetroopers mostly have a black or dark steel color where they are dented. My Kotobukiya ROTS Clonetrooper also has that color.
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You mean dirt