I Really WANT to Like Waterworld...

Skaught

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...but the script keeps getting in the way.

Seriously, I love the concept behind Waterworld. I would love to see a movie about how people survive in a world like that. From the socieities that cling together on the atolls to the loners who sail around all by themselves, trading with each other. But the whole "road warrior" nonsense that Waterworld has killed it for me. Where is the ammo coming from? The jet skis and other engines have long since worn out.

In a world like that, there would almost be a relgious dedication surrounding material items. Don't dare drop anything...it's gone for good and there's no hope of making more. Everything must be recycled. Want to steal from someone else? Fine...but you don't do it by blowing half of it into the depths.

Anyway, I got to thinking about this again last week when Waterworld was on tv. I really wanted to like it. It's just so terrible.

Scott
 
Try and find the novel, it's a bit better and shows everything that was cut out of it which added a bit more depth to it and to the Mariner character. I really wanted to see more underwater scenes as they were better described in the book. Plus on dvd they look really bad for some reason so i'd love to see them redone with modern cg or even partial underwater sets.
 
I mostly like waterworld, or well, parts of it. Mostly the parts that make it a more or less direct remake of Road Warrior on water (and I love the Road Warrior). The 'water-scooters' (sorry, I don't remember the English word) and stunts kinda get in the way sometimes. It's an adventure action-movie with traces of heart.
 
Agreed, it seems like a perfectly serviceable idea, although if you made it today, you'd probably have the yahoos out there protesting the "environmental" message. But man were there some serious missteps in that flick.
 
Can something be so bad that its actually okay?

I think "Waterworld" & "The Postman" both fall into this category.

Great cinema, no, ....harmless fun, yeah probably.

Waterworld seems to get a raw deal as a turkey due to the cost involved, but the set did sink didn't it? (Tropical storm destroy set/delays filming etc)
 
I just wonder whether the makers had never seen The Road Warrior or they just wanted to rip it off.

But I love Waterworld.

Plus the 60 seats we removed from our bus for it's Grateful Dead renovation got used on the deck of the Valdez.
 
I really like Waterworld. Granted the logic of the movie is practically non existant but still--everytime it's on tv that's usually the channel I'll leave it on. I actually like the extended version better because of the extra and extended scenes, however the trade off is the removal of the cursing and a few smoking references ("you're never too young to start").

I guess I always just really liked the character of the Mariner. He always seemed kinda like a cross between Clint Eastwood and Snake Plissken for me. I mean the way he treats the child at the beginning is priceless. And then he just picks her up and throws her overboard with no regard!! I loved that! You could never do that in a movie today.

And his boat--man, that was a poor man's version of the Batmobile on water!!

But yeah, the movie is heavily flawed but it by no means the "worst movie ever" as some claim. I enjoy it, just put Spock away and forget the logic of it.
 
Waterworld is great as a comedy. Its hilarious to watch Kevin Costners ego get so far out of orbit and unfold on camera that is plays into the character.
 
"I Really WANT to Like Waterworld..."
And that's the trap, it's not interested in you like that. Until you're honest with yourself, no inflated Kevin Costner vehicle is going to respect you.

Gah! ANOTHER RPF relationship thread.

Laffo.
 
Waterworld, like a number of Costner's movies, would have really benefited from being about an hour shorter.

I was thrilled to see the trimaran at Universal Studios Orlando some years ago. It was the best actor in the film.
 
I would love to see anyone put their money where there mouth is and to a Fan Made sequel that is as good or better than the original. That would be a fun project to be a part of.
 
I saw it in the theater. Haven't watched it since.

I remember it having the odd cool moment or line... but on the whole, not good.


Part of me wants to watch it again. Part of me thinks, "No... just hang onto those cool moments", as I have all but completely forgotten just how bad it is. :lol


Kevin
 
I watched it for the first time about a month ago, watched half of it again a few nights ago. I always heard about it and wanted to see if it lived up to its hype, but I was sort of let down when I found out it wasn't magnificent.
 
I completely agree. The concept is really good - an interesting take on a post-apocalyptic world (especially since a world without water is much more common). The execution is... well, terrible. In the beginning at least I was intrigued, and I gave it a chance to pick up the pace but it never delivered. So much about the setting doesn't make sense, and I was really unimpressed with the dialogue and the acting. Such a shame.
 
And that's the trap, it's not interested in you like that.

Laffo.


"YOU'RE TELLING ME! THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY!"

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Where is the ammo coming from? The jet skis and other engines have long since worn out.

In a world like that, there would almost be a relgious dedication surrounding material items. Don't dare drop anything...it's gone for good and there's no hope of making more. Everything must be recycled.

Yeah, this. There's no access to metals, timber, anything. If it wasn't salvaged in the first few weeks or months after the flood, it doesn't exist any more. Same with people; the population is restricted to those few who survived the initial disaster and their descendants. They'd probably actually be way fewer of them than the debris fields could support, at least to begin with. So if anything the competition would be more along the lines of who can best organise a labour force to establish habitats rather than who's best at going Viking.

I just wonder whether the makers had never seen The Road Warrior or they just wanted to rip it off.

The latter, from what I recall reading at the time. Wasn't it one of those low-budget scripts that got shopped around and accidentally found an A-list star attached? IIRC it was literally pitched as "Mad Max on the ocean".
 
I start to get worried about my taste in movies when I see threads like this :confused


I love every single bit of Waterworld, and its one I've seen several times !!


... as I did the other 'thrash me to bits' threads like Avatar etc :lol


.... then again, I have the (good ? :confused) habit of just wanting to be entertained, without getting into the nitty-gritties too much :)


I used to pick at movies, plots etc, but not so much any more. Weird :rolleyes
 
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