I know that the movie Jaws is a classic, but!!!

I recently saw a Jaws documentary on the history channel. It's neat to hear how the absence of the shark started out as a result of mechanical problems. At first this seems aweful and Speilberg was convinced that it would ruin the film. Ironically though the focus of the film (the part that scared the crap out of us) became the suspense of what you couldn't see. So in truth, what made Jaws great was the depths of fear that the unknown elicited and the physical shark took a back seat.
 
Sometimes you just have to let the past remain that way, a bright light in the recesses of your memory that you can fondly recollect on.

Having the option to re-view classics like this may only ruin it for some. I am guilty of this. I used to love Howard the Duck as a kid. I watched it again with my daughter and was embarrassed at how cheesy it was, not at all how I remembered it...She loved it of course.

The only reason I enjoy looking back on gems like these is to reminisce, compare them to movies that are based off of them, or introduce them to my kids so they can enjoy them like I did.
 
Listen to Symphony No.9 by Antonin Dvorak, movement IV.

The first couple of bars. It was composed in 1893.

That was before 'Black Lagoon' came out. Pretty sure, anyway.





I sat in theaters 223 times in 1975 and 1976 watching Jaws, and have gotten it on Laserdisc, Beta, VHS, and DVD since then, and it's still one of my favorite movies. I snuck a tape recorder into the theater at the Monroeville Mall and recorded the movie and listened to it thousands of times, know pretty much every line by heart, and drive my kids crazy by saying lines ahead of the actors when we watch the movie. So I can say I love that movie as much as anyone.

My only "but..." with the movie was the score. The only movie I've seen nearly as many times as Jaws was Creature From The Black Lagoon, and anyone who's seen that movie a lot, and listened to the score, knows exactly where John Williams came up with his dum-dum-dum-dum main theme for Jaws. Williams has said in interviews he gets inspired by other film scores, and I'm sure making a movie about a sea monster he would have certainly given Hans Salter's works on Creature a listen to. I've always thought Williams should have given Salter a co-credit given his famous two-beat signature piece was created by Salter.
 
I want to introduce him to the guy who thinks the Alien Queen is a dumb design. They ought get along just fine.

You're a ****** pal. If you wanna insult me, at least man up enough to do it in the same thread. Poor form :thumbsdown
 
I'm in my early 20's and JAWS is easily my favorite film; and lots of my friends my age love the film as well, so my generation is not a complete loss. But again I'm one of those people who loves conventional special effects and CANT STAND the overused CG of movies today. Hell, the other day I was watching the original 20,000 leagues and Journey to the Center of the earth and loving it. Cant say nothing about the kids younger than me though.

And as for Texas Chainsaw Massacre, My dad tells me all the time about when he and his buddys saw that when it first came out, and he says that half of them were laughing their @#$'s off while the other half were near vomiting. Its not that its boring, its just so much horrific mayhem is happening you cant help but laugh. Its one of those unique films.

Dana
 
I'm in my early 20's and JAWS is easily my favorite film; and lots of my friends my age love the film as well, so my generation is not a complete loss. But again I'm one of those people who loves conventional special effects and CANT STAND the overused CG of movies today. Hell, the other day I was watching the original 20,000 leagues and Journey to the Center of the earth and loving it. Cant say nothing about the kids younger than me though.

And as for Texas Chainsaw Massacre, My dad tells me all the time about when he and his buddys saw that when it first came out, and he says that half of them were laughing their @#$'s off while the other half were near vomiting. Its not that its boring, its just so much horrific mayhem is happening you cant help but laugh. Its one of those unique films.

Dana



As of matter o fact, one of my favorite movies is the first black and white King Kong, too much CG is actually not my thing, I guess my taste changed with time, I did use to think Jaws was scary, I even remember getting scare going on the water, but know that I saw it again, didn't feel the same. Quin's speech is amazing, I give you that...It's sad that I put the movie again and watched with my 6 years old daughter and she was cracking up every time somebody was devour by shark...I do show her the classics, I have them all. Casa Blanca, gone with the win are some of my favorite, no special effect there, I may have touch a nerve on some people, but it's perfectly Ok cause I don expect people to like the same things...

In another hand, I see mixed opinions here, since we are talking among mature people, there is no need to attack each other, no saying it for me but I see others going at it, so I'm immature cause I particularly dislike a movie, but it's ok to people to offend each other with name calling...so where is the maturity there?
 
You're a ****** pal. If you wanna insult me, at least man up enough to do it in the same thread. Poor form :thumbsdown



See what I mean; there is no need to offend Birdie, Birdie you are entitle to your opinion, I may disagree with you but that does not mean I have to be a jerk to you...I saw this feud was carry over from another thread...
 
Not all do.

There are some who get the way old movies were made.

Another Classic imo was Superman.

Thanks for the reminder as I have not watched it in about a year.

It will be tommorow nights movie! :thumbsup


Flagg, while I agree that your post is spot on, I think that (as with many things) that it's sad to that younger generations both don't and can't 'get-it' the same way we did growing up.
 
As of matter o fact, one of my favorite movies is the first black and white King Kong, too much CG is actually not my thing, I guess my taste changed with time, I did use to think Jaws was scary, I even remember getting scare going on the water, but know that I saw it again, didn't feel the same. Quin's speech is amazing, I give you that...It's sad that I put the movie again and watched with my 6 years old daughter and she was cracking up every time somebody was devour by shark...I do show her the classics, I have them all. Casa Blanca, gone with the win are some of my favorite, no special effect there, I may have touch a nerve on some people, but it's perfectly Ok cause I don expect people to like the same things...
Why are you watching Jaws with a 6-year-old? She wouldn't have the frame of reference to understand the drama and horror.
 
I haven't seen the film in some time, but I remember watching it as a teenager in the '90s and still finding it freaky. Like "Do I really want to go swimming again?" freaky.

That said, I tend to judge older films by different standards. I don't expect them to match the production values of today, nor to hew to modern styles in, well, anything (clothing, dialogue, camera work, editing, even the film stock). I try to judge them more in their own context. Sometimes they still hold up when compared to more modern stuff. Sometimes they're BETTER than modern stuff. But even when they aren't, when compared to other films of their time, they usually work.


For example, try going back and watching the old Buster Crabbe Flash Gordon serials from the mid 30s and 40s. Holy GOD the f/x look clunky! If you thought 1960s Doctor Who had wobbly sets...you ain't seen nothin' yet. BUT if you consider when they came out and take them in that context, they're pretty fun. But there's a lot of stuff that doesn't match modern sensibilities. Shots are usually from a static angle, often just straight on, rather than, say, a low or high angle shot. The editing is very...stale. You'll get much longer shots, rather than dramatic cuts. The music -- and this is true of many older films from that era -- is not a constant companion for the viewer. It cuts in for particularly dramatic sequences, but a lot of times it'll either be nonexistent or seem so bland that it might as well be nonexistent. So, it can be jarring to the modern viewer, even one who fancies themselves a cinemaphile.

But that said, I still think you have to consider it in its context. I mean, if you heard Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" today, you might think "Huh. Good song. Nothin' special. Sounds a lot like the stuff you hear on the radio today. What's all the fuss about?" But if you consider the context in which it came out back in '91 -- coming out of almost a decade chock-a-block full of overproduced hair metal bands (which still have their charms, don't get me wrong), it BLEW PEOPLE AWAY.

It was raw, it was loud, it was basic. Obviously, if you grew up in the 70s and were a fan of the punk scene, you'd instantly hear how indebted Nirvana's sound was to that era, but even so, it completely set the rock music world on its ear (no pun intended) at the time. It spawned legions of imitators and also-rans, and it fundamentally changed music overnight.

Is the song itself all that revolutionary? Nah, not really. Not if you listen to it out of its context. It's a catchy, cool tune, but it's not Bach or Louis Armstrong or whathaveyou. But in its context? Earth-shattering. Absolutely earth-shattering. Music changed basically overnight and NOBODY saw it coming. To me, that's the role that films like Jaws and Star Wars play. You can see how they're indebted to previous films, you can watch them today and think "Ok, decent flick, but what's all the fuss about?" if you've never seen them before. But you won't get "The fuss" unless you put yourself in the mindset of the 1970s viewer.
 
Man I was watching Labyrinth with my daughter yesterday and I saw David Bowie in there doing his little 80's song right in the middle of the movie!!:facepalm

And I thought to myself, "There's no way movies do something that cheesy out of the blue". Then I watched Spider-man 3 :facepalm:unsure
 
Still applicable:

Great whites spotted near scene of 'Jaws' - CNN.com Video

Screw that!! I'm still staying clear of the ocean!!

In all seriousness though, the ones that really scare the heck out of me are the ones off the coast of Australia that jump out of the water!! What part of 2 tons of FLYING shark doesn't give you nightmares??!! LOL!!

When Jaws came out they said it was so unrealistic and the part with the shark jumping on the boat was the worst part... During Shark Week on one of the Air jaws episodes they mentioned how one of the jumping great whites hit one of the boats and nearly sunk it. Not so unrealistic if you want to stretch things a bit...
 
I just saw "Piranha 3DD". While I did like that they purposefully (I hope) made it as cheesy (or more) than the Jaws knock-offs of the 80's, and the Hassselhoff stuff was hilarious, the movie fell a bit short for me. The original Piranha was a classic, so I will have to re-watch that. I haven't seen Jaws since it was originally in the theater, so I will have to check it out now. Perhaps a Jaws 1-2-3 marathon is in order. How about Orca, anyone remember that? I remember liking Orca when it was in theaters even though the critics didn't like it so much. Perhaps I'll do a whole weekend of killer sea creatures.

Jaws 1-2-3
Orca
Piranha 1-2 (just saw 3DD)
Anything else?
 
On a whim I just did an IMDB search for "manatee" and found "Attack of the Killer Manatee". Never heard of it. Doesn't even have 5 votes.

Almost forgot Alligator and Alligator II
 
It looks so crappy now, and the acting is awful!!!, shark looks good, but wow how movies have changed!!!!

I've never heard anything so ridiculous in all my life.

The acting is awful? For crying out loud, by what distorted yardstick are you measuring that against? Twilight, maybe?

I despair, I really do.
 
Just got through watching it for the millionth time.

Solid all the way with magnificent performances.

God I miss Robert and Roy :(
 
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