Humor Does Not Make A Movie Childish

[BlueSteel]

With the comic book movie era just starting to kick into high gear, and DC possibly join in the running, the age old argument of Marvel-vs-DC inevitably rears its ugly and pointless head. I'm not hear to talk about that. Basically I'm just plain sick of hearing fans of the Dark Knight try to tear apart any and every Marvel movie just because it has humor (really rreeally good humor, with the exception of Age of Ultron, which was still hilarious but probably overkill for how serious the movie should've been). How is this a bad thing? Have they forgotten about GotG? That probably wouldn't have worked without humor. What about Antman? It wasn't as amazing as the latter but still a solid movie that required humor to function. On top of that, why do they seem to forget the really lame humor in the Green Lantern, or Batman Begins? Almost every quip in those movies fell flat and took you out of the movie. Granted The Dark Knight had some laughs, but these were almost entirely delivered by Heath Ledger's stellar performance, which the movie really rides on anyway, and I like the movie too. It just doesn't make sense to me how, in the case of the MCU-vs-DCCU, Marvel is mocked for being just hilariously funny at necessary times. We don't need the gritty reboot of Superman that we got, we needed a contrast to Batmans fitting darkness, which at times is still ridiculous and over-the-top. If everyone in this fledgling universe is mopey, where's the relatable characters and the uplifting moments that will become just as necessary as a Hispanic guy narrating a montage in Antman was, and that movie was an achievement to say the least. How can we just take Marvel's expertly crafted humor and label it as childish popcorn fare? These are for the most part quality movies guys. Could they darken up a bit? Yes! Could they get better villians. Yes! But for Comic Book movies' sake give Marvel some slack. I plan to go into BvS open-minded and I am unflinchingly pro-Marvel. Just give the expected game changers like Ragnarok and Civil War a chance, and if all of these movies suck on both sides, we'll watch Deadpool and laugh our balls off together.

 

[Zombie_61]

The "DC versus Marvel" argument is just as stupid as the "Star Trek versus Star Wars" argument. No, I don't have to choose one or the other. There are things I like and don't like about all of 'em, but that's for me to decide.

As for the humor, as long as it works within the context of the story, or the moment, I'm okay with it. I wouldn't want to see a strictly comedic version of a Batman or Hulk movie, but so far I think the Marvel movies have used humor to good effect.

I'm not sure my response addresses your topic, but it is what it is.

 

[BlueSteel]

The "DC versus Marvel" argument is just as stupid as the "Star Trek versus Star Wars" argument. No, I don't have to choose one or the other. There are things I like and don't like about all of 'em, but that's for me to decide.

As for the humor, as long as it works within the context of the story, or the moment, I'm okay with it. I wouldn't want to see a strictly comedic version of a Batman or Hulk movie, but so far I think the Marvel movies have used humor to good effect.

I'm not sure my response addresses your topic, but it is what it is.

No i totally agree with you. Not tryingto wage the completely pointless flame war about the same old idea. i just have been contemplating why people write stuff off in general if there is any lightheartedness at all. Thanks for your thoughts and i totally agree with you

 

[dascoyne]

Marvel vs. DC is like Coke vs. Pepsi.
Ultimately both sides benefit from the hype.

To those who say that humor makes Marvel "childish" I would say that, for me, humor is both childlike and adult - while unrelenting angst is simply adolescent. I like TDK series very much but they're not more "mature" films than, say, GotG or Winter Soldier. By the end of TDR series it just seemed tonally redundant. Even AoU is layered with a lot more complexity.

 

[Axlotl]

I would say that... humor is both childlike and adult - while unrelenting angst is simply adolescent.

^This.

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We don't need the gritty reboot of Superman that we got, we needed a contrast to Batmans fitting darkness...

^Also this.

 

[Laspector]

I know a few parents who were offended by some of the adult humor in Guardians of the Galaxy (I was not) such as the Jackson Pollack/black light reference and the "they got my d*** message!". Yet those same parents will laugh along with their children at fart and poop jokes.

I don't understand why jokes from one side of the body are considered cute and okay for kids, but jokes for the other side of the body are not.....jus' saying...

 

[Zombie_61]

No i totally agree with you. Not trying to wage the completely pointless flame war about the same old idea. i just have been contemplating why people write stuff off in general if there is any lightheartedness at all. Thanks for your thoughts and i totally agree with you

I think some fans just take this stuff too seriously and they perceive humor, especially if it's at the expense of their hero-of-choice, as an attack on something they're passionate about so they feel they have to defend their fandom.

 

[ower]

The "DC versus Marvel" argument is just as stupid as the "Star Trek versus Star Wars" argument. No, I don't have to choose one or the other. There are things I like and don't like about all of 'em, but that's for me to decide.

As for the humor, as long as it works within the context of the story, or the moment, I'm okay with it. I wouldn't want to see a strictly comedic version of a Batman or Hulk movie, but so far I think the Marvel movies have used humor to good effect.

I'm not sure my response addresses your topic, but it is what it is.

It's called Choice supportive Bias. Nobody wants to feel left out or like they made the wrong decision. When someone chooses between Star Wars and Star Trek, Playstation and Xbox, Coke vs Pepsi, DC vs Marvel, and lets say they chose Marvel, in their mind that clearly was the best choice. How is it that someone else evaluated the same criteria and chose DC? Well, that's how every rabid fanbase is born; someone made a different choice, therefore it must be proven that they are right in their choice of marvel and the others are wrong, and cannot budge because they cannot accept that they may have chosen the "inferior product". When the reality is, like you say.. up to you to decide and there is not right and wrong.

 

[Zombie_61]

It's called Choice supportive Bias. Nobody wants to feel left out or like they made the wrong decision. When someone chooses between Star Wars and Star Trek, Playstation and Xbox, Coke vs Pepsi, DC vs Marvel, and lets say they chose Marvel, in their mind that clearly was the best choice. How is it that someone else evaluated the same criteria and chose DC? Well, that's how every rabid fanbase is born; someone made a different choice, therefore it must be proven that they are right in their choice of marvel and the others are wrong, and cannot budge because they cannot accept that they may have chosen the "inferior product". When the reality is, like you say.. up to you to decide and there is not right and wrong.

I never once felt I had to choose between DC and Marvel, or Star Trek and Star Wars, so I suppose I'll never really understand why anyone else would feel they have to unless they're pressured into it by friends or family. Of course, if they actually dislike one or the other that's a different story. And on that note, I'm definitely in the "Coke" camp.