HUGE UPDATE!Kino's Screen-accurate ASM 2 DYE SUB Pattern and Suit BUILD.

[KinoKaoru]

Ok guys, Amazing Spider-man 2 is just around the corner and I thought it's about time I upgrade my Amazing Spider-man 2 suit by building my own Dye Sub pattern other than using Orhardar's TASM2. Btw, his pattern is still one of the best ASM2 patterns that is widely used including me. It has a bit of inconsistencies in some webbing areas though so I thought It's about time I invest some hours into building a new and improved screen-accurate pattern myself. I had a Friend who recently sent me quite a hefty bunch of reference photos, and some Vector guides of the webbings used in the movie. I really don't want to delve into the details how he got it, but I'm quite astonished at how the actual movie suit pattern was built. I decided to give it a go and recreate the whole suit from scratch using all those guides.

I started making the mask in Adobe Illustrator . So I gathered as much pics as I can to have a good reference for the webbings. I had a friend source this reference photos for my build.





So here's what Iv'e come up with


I tried testing it on a small scale and all the webs fit quite perfectly


I tried to design a brick pattern that closely resembles that of the ones Ive seen in the closeup shots.


So here it is rendered with the webbing and brick pattern



so that's all for now. Will post more as my progress goes for the other parts and tell me what you guys think.

 

[KinoKaoru]

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Working on the Torso

 

[Fulmetal75]

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This is awesome. Keep it up. I can't wait to see more progress

 

[BREAD WARRIOR]

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Looking great man. You probably already know (but just because I've had first hand frustration with it) you should leave a bit of red past the actual pattern area so there's some leeway when sewing it up. When it goes straight to white, it's a pain. My DGP suit had that and it's a nightmare. And same goes for the blue areas as well.

 

[The New Blood]

Re: Kino's Screen-accurate AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2 DYE SUB Pattern and Suit BUILD.

Ok guys, Amazing Spider-man 2 is just around the corner and I thought it's about time I upgrade my Amazing Spider-man 2 suit by building my own Dye Sub pattern other than using Orhardar's TASM2. Btw, his pattern is still one of the best ASM2 patterns that is widely used including me. It has a bit of inconsistencies in some webbing areas though so I thought It's about time I invest some hours into building a new and improved screen-accurate pattern myself. I had a Friend who recently sent me quite a hefty bunch of reference photos, and some Vector guides of the webbings used in the movie. I really don't want to delve into the details how he got it, but I'm quite astonished at how the actual movie suit pattern was built. I decided to give it a go and recreate the whole suit from scratch using all those guides.

I started making the mask in Adobe Illustrator . So I gathered as much pics as I can to have a good reference for the webbings. I had a friend source this reference photos for my build.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/Mumbakis099/maskscr3_zpsae665594.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/Mumbakis099/spideyside2_zpsefc8f684.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/Mumbakis099/spideyback_zpsf718d57a.jpg

So here's what Iv'e come up with

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/Mumbakis099/maskscr2_zps83c58f9c.jpg
I tried testing it on a small scale and all the webs fit quite perfectly
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h...10201663158404274_169193841_n_zpsef85fc2b.jpg

I tried to design a brick pattern that closely resembles that of the ones Ive seen in the closeup shots.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/Mumbakis099/TASM2Brick_zpsd3a18285.jpg

So here it is rendered with the webbing and brick pattern

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/Mumbakis099/asm2scr_zpsc9aa0389.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/Mumbakis099/asm2scr_zpsc9aa0389.jpg
so that's all for now. Will post more as my progress goes for the other parts and tell me what you guys think.

I've been working on a TASM 2 mask Pattern myself, not sure if it would fit together properly though.

 

[KinoKaoru]

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noted . Yes I will do that Once I'm done tweaking the mask

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awesome. Try printing it on small scale like I did for a mock-up,

 

[KinoKaoru]

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Chest progress. I used Taylor Macmanus' Muscle shadings for this. I just made it really really subtle as I feel it's more realistic like that. I was thinking of removing the shading on the Red area altogether and Maybe just leave the shadings to the blue areas. I still have to tweak the shading. I used the Burn tool a bit too much on the left most chest area.. lol

 

[KinoKaoru]

Re: HUGE UPDATE! Kino's Screen-accurate ASM 2 DYE SUB Pattern And suit Build .

Back progress. Should I darken the red a bit more? I'm planning to print my suit on RED and BLUE Lycra as I don't want my suit to whiten when being taken with flash photography as is the problem with most Dye sub suits that it printed on white lycra.

 

[Mystery]

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That is looking fantastic KinoKaoru! Though I would refrain from printing them on to colored fabrics, as I remember Nickfox saying in one of the threads that it required a whole different technique to do that, like changing the actual colors or sth.

Damn fine work man, can't wait to see it all come together :thumbsup

 

[KinoKaoru]

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Yeah I'm aware that the colors tend to go darker when printed onto colored fabric. I will be doing test prints as I will be printing the patterns locally in my area .

 

[Lunaman]

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Should I darken the red a bit more? I'm planning to print my suit on RED and BLUE Lycra as I don't want my suit to whiten when being taken with flash photography as is the problem with most Dye sub suits that it printed on white lycra.

Yeah I'm aware that the colors tend to go darker when printed onto colored fabric. I will be doing test prints as I will be printing the patterns locally in my area .

If you're able to get these printed on color fabrics, I might be very interested.

I'd also be interested to hear where you obtained these vector guides from, as they seem to be studio-used, but perhaps that's not something you'll divulge.
Also, I'd like to reiterate Breadwarrior's point that you need to include colored seam allowances if this pattern is going to be useful. Its looking quite good so far. I wouldn't add any more contour shading, but I like the subtle amount that's there. I do think that your bricks on the blue sections need to be a little smaller, on the film suit the bricks on the red and the blue are roughly the same size.

Anyway, as to your color question, I'm going to repeat what I said on another pattern builder's thread:




"I believe (after seeing and hearing a lot of evidence) that the red on this pattern should be much deeper and cooler, certainly moreso than the red on the Raimi pattern. I've spoken to some people that saw the screen used suits in person, and one of the things that they said stood out most was how surprisingly dark the red was.

Most of the references people have been seeing for the suit are either retouched promotional shots, highly lit stills from the film, and full sunlight set photos, which all tend to blow out the color and make the suit look more like a primary red than a deep blood red. Also, red is a portion of the color spectrum that tends to overload sensors on many digital cameras and register as a lot hotter in color temperature than it actually is. The result is that most photos people share of the suit have it look like a bright primary red, though not because the suit IS a bright primary red.

Here, below are some of my favorite images that give credence to the color disparity.
In the first and second image, the film suit is shown with a bright primary red fabric right up next to it, which serves to anchor the red spectrum and plainly show just how much darker the suit color is than a standard "out of the bottle" red. The first picture has the outfit of the kid on his shoulders, while the second has a piece of red fabric (probably a kid's mask) in his hand.




The third photo is a set photo, but one that was taken with ambient natural light instead of in direct sunlight like most set photos (which usually blows out the color).




You can also get a sense of the deep color in this video where William Spencer met a fan on the set.

It's a little tough to nail the color because the suit was printed on a thick, slightly shiny/reflective red lycra, so it takes on a bit of the color of the surrounding light conditions. You can also see the depth of the red color in the comic con panel video, where the suit looks nearly burgundy."

 

[KinoKaoru]

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Thanks for the Input on the colors man! That really helped with the comaparison. Indeed I think I should darken the red a bit more and maybe add a hint of burgundy on there. I might Do a Junkyard run if all goes well with my colored fabric idea. Although I still can't divulge my sources on my pattern guides as of now. Don't wanna get my buddy in to trouble.

 

[KinoKaoru]

Re: Kino's Screen-accurate AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2 DYE SUB Pattern and Suit BUILD.

HUGE UPDATE. Just Finished my ASM2 Pattern! I Tweaked the colors a bit and I just hope I nailed the colors just right. I opted to go the straightforward back vertical zipper way. which most spidey costumers do. Although I'm also making another version where the Back part is just one whole piece and is compatible for a U-shape side zipper style. Anyway, without further ado, here are the pics of my Pattern

 

[w2228226]

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Great job！！

 

[KinoKaoru]

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Thanks. Btw, I designed the arms like that so it can have the side Invisible zippers attached to it. Just like in the movie.

 

[Wezzulus]

Oh wow that looks fantastic! You can be proud.

 

[lalapalooza]

This look awesome!!! Great work! One thing i don't get are the boots, shouldn't there be four boots things on the pattern or am i missing something? Also are you going to be selling this?

 

[Wezzulus]

Wondering the same thing. I'd gladly throw my money at you.

 

[KinoKaoru]

yeah. well it's supposed to be 4 pieces. I just didnt include the other boot yet in my preview.

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Wondering the same thing. I'd gladly throw my money at you.

I would have to proof print a full suit first before I decide to put this on a Junkyard run. I still wanna make sure the colors are the right shade of red and blue. I may also have the option to offer it in RED and Blue spandex prints

 

[Wezzulus]

Right! I'll definitely be interested and I'm sure you can coubt me in when you go open a thread with this in the junkyard. I'll wait patiently and follow your progress.

yeah. well it's supposed to be 4 pieces. I just didnt include the other boot yet in my preview.

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I would have to proof print a full suit first before I decide to put this on a Junkyard run. I still wanna make sure the colors are the right shade of red and blue. I may also have the option to offer it in RED and Blue spandex prints