How do you sculpt wrinkles in skin?
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blipper
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This is a topic I was meant to post a while back, but alas, senility must have kicked, so I'm very keen to hear some expert insight too, Steveo. At some point I'd like to sculpt a Guild Navigator so skin wrinkles will definitely be in order, I'm guessing rags or sponge textures are used?
IEDBOUNTYHUNTER
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Try this place. some of these books are very good. after thats its just alot of practice.
http://www.sculpturehouse.com/searchresult.aspx?CategoryID=25
http://www.sculpturehouse.com/searchresult.aspx?CategoryID=25
Here's a great thread (and site) with a lot of skin tutorials - WARNING: LARGE PICS:
http://www.theeffectslab.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10057
There's a ton of other threads about skin textures if you do some more searching.
Hope this helps.
http://www.theeffectslab.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10057
There's a ton of other threads about skin textures if you do some more searching.
Hope this helps.
Mutant-Enemy
Sr Member
This was one of the first things tought to me by my make-up teacher and friend Shawn MacEnroe (Thriller,Texas Chainsaw II, Greystoke, LostBoy's...to name a few)
Texture stamps eventually come into play but for wrinkles of all sizes you use a wire tool (I like a tool that has a wire loop on one end and a wood sort of chisel on the other).
With oil clay you simply run the wire tool across it where you want the wrinkle, cutting into the clay and leaving a groove. Then you take a medium to soft brush, dip it in acetone and brush it across the cut.
Eventually you will see that the clay is breaking down slightly and the rigid cut line is softening and turning into a rounded edge, i.e= a wrinkle.
Play with the technique until you get the hang of it but a word of caution as to Acetone and the process:
Acetone is nasty stuff and you should avoid skin contact and breathing it's fumes.
The process can be easily overdone. Take it slow and be patient to get the results you want.
Here's a good example of this technique that Shawn used for this make-up on me based on his Grandpa Make-up from ChainSaw II:
It's all Gelatin by the way.
Texture stamps eventually come into play but for wrinkles of all sizes you use a wire tool (I like a tool that has a wire loop on one end and a wood sort of chisel on the other).
With oil clay you simply run the wire tool across it where you want the wrinkle, cutting into the clay and leaving a groove. Then you take a medium to soft brush, dip it in acetone and brush it across the cut.
Eventually you will see that the clay is breaking down slightly and the rigid cut line is softening and turning into a rounded edge, i.e= a wrinkle.
Play with the technique until you get the hang of it but a word of caution as to Acetone and the process:
Acetone is nasty stuff and you should avoid skin contact and breathing it's fumes.
The process can be easily overdone. Take it slow and be patient to get the results you want.
Here's a good example of this technique that Shawn used for this make-up on me based on his Grandpa Make-up from ChainSaw II:
It's all Gelatin by the way.
Mike Rush
Well-Known Member
I read once - it may have been Tom Savini - that another way to get nice soft edges to the wrinkles is to lay cellophane or saran wrap over the clay and scribe through that.
Also Dick Smith said something like: no wrinkle is ever straight, and no two are parallel. Always put a little kink or an s-curve in there.
Hope that helps. :thumbsup
Also Dick Smith said something like: no wrinkle is ever straight, and no two are parallel. Always put a little kink or an s-curve in there.
Hope that helps. :thumbsup
Use Seran Wrap. It does wonders in creating natural wrinkles.
steveo
Sr Member
Can you use rubbing alcohol or any other non-toxic liquid?
Thanks for all the tips so far. They sound like they'll be easy to do, now it's just up to my talents.
steveo
Sr Member
yeah, i'd rather start with the rubbing alcohol and if it doesn't work, then try the acetone.
Mutant-Enemy
Sr Member
"Also Dick Smith said something like: no wrinkle is ever straight, and no two are parallel. Always put a little kink or an s-curve in there."
You are referring to A-symmetry.
No human face is perfectly symmetrical from side to side so, if you sculpt facial features, the more A-Symmetrical you make them the more interesting it will appear to the eye.
You can try the alcohol on the oil clay, you'll have better luck with it though if it is a 98%...the 78% stuff just won't do anything.
The acetone however is made to break down plastic so, naturally it works better to attack the oils in the clay.
If your hoping to pour up your appliances in Silicone however, you want to stay away from oil clay altogether.
Silicone wont cure next to anything that has had an oil clay on it.
Anyway, there are other techniques for creating wrinkles.
Another good way, though way more labor intensive, is to cut grooves in the clay as described before and then roll very small coils of clay that are laid down next to the groove on either side. This is where that wood chisel tool comes in handy to smooth down the edges of the coils.
This is a great way to "beef up" wrinkles.
Good luck!
You are referring to A-symmetry.
No human face is perfectly symmetrical from side to side so, if you sculpt facial features, the more A-Symmetrical you make them the more interesting it will appear to the eye.
You can try the alcohol on the oil clay, you'll have better luck with it though if it is a 98%...the 78% stuff just won't do anything.
The acetone however is made to break down plastic so, naturally it works better to attack the oils in the clay.
If your hoping to pour up your appliances in Silicone however, you want to stay away from oil clay altogether.
Silicone wont cure next to anything that has had an oil clay on it.
Anyway, there are other techniques for creating wrinkles.
Another good way, though way more labor intensive, is to cut grooves in the clay as described before and then roll very small coils of clay that are laid down next to the groove on either side. This is where that wood chisel tool comes in handy to smooth down the edges of the coils.
This is a great way to "beef up" wrinkles.
Good luck!
Mike Rush
Well-Known Member
No, I wasn't. :rolleyes
Mutant-Enemy
Sr Member
Oh...well excuse me for using prosthetic make-up terminology.
When sculpting wrinkles for prosthetic appliance's they should always be sculpted A-Symmetrically so as to appear more natural....was all I was saying.
When sculpting wrinkles for prosthetic appliance's they should always be sculpted A-Symmetrically so as to appear more natural....was all I was saying.
weaselflinger
Sr Member
Silicone will cure perfectly against oil-based plasticene as long as it does not contain sulfur.
steveo
Sr Member
Wow, his stuff is pretty cool. I've seen the one guy in a video somewhere before - the one who was sculpting the creatures.
First of all I wouldn't use texture stamps. The whole thing can look kinda symetrical and symetry isn't what you want.
Also, the overall organic feel and look get's lost with texture stamps. You can go over the whole sculpt with a pet brush and then do some bigger wrinkles in. Just remember to powder (and let evaporate) the whole sculpt when working with lighter fluid.
Lighter fluid or naphta does the same job as water on water based clay.
Also, the overall organic feel and look get's lost with texture stamps. You can go over the whole sculpt with a pet brush and then do some bigger wrinkles in. Just remember to powder (and let evaporate) the whole sculpt when working with lighter fluid.
Lighter fluid or naphta does the same job as water on water based clay.
This was a very helpful thread. I also found this site useful. Sculpting Realistic Skin Texture
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