Holy Grail "The cup of a carpenter"

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  1. Fly4v

    Fly4v Sr Member

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    I had hoped to use a lathe to turn my cup but no have access to one. So I hope by cutting circles in white pine and then sanding them down to the correct profile will work.

    For the hollow section have drilled holes and will use a chisel to open it up more.
     
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  2. Duncanator

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    No THAT'S a carpenter's cup. Actual wood!
     
  3. Mike J.

    Mike J. Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    It's extra carpenter-y.
     
  4. Mechanized2400

    Mechanized2400 Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Great idea! Keep us updated :thumbsup
     
  5. Apollo

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    Looking forward to this :cheers
     
  6. Jintosh

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    It's going to be a lot of work. But it'll be worth it.
     
  7. Betamin

    Betamin Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I thought you said you were going to make "the cup of Serpentor." I was WAY off.
     
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  8. MAKE BELIEVE

    MAKE BELIEVE Sr Member

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    Yeap. It's going to be a hard work
    Looking forward
     
  9. cavx

    cavx Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Fly4v when I turned the base of Mr Fusion, also didn't have a lathe (well I had access to one, just didn't want to pay to use it) so I ran a bolt through the middle and stuck the thing in my press drill and use files what not to make it smooth and round. Not exactly a safe practice, but it worked.
     
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  10. Fly4v

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    Cobras only hope for victory!

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    The drill press is a good idea. The press I have access to doesn't turn very fast. I put a 3/8 dowel in the base so I can turn the bottom over a belt sander and not risk my fingers.

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    One of the circles cracked when I took a chisel to the center. So I cut then all open with a band saw and then glued them all together. The cuts and grain is opposing each other.
    I plan to shape the cup in two parts and fit the two together.
    If I can not make it perfectly round my excuse will be because it was made in the first century.
     
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  11. Jintosh

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    Exactly what I was thinking !! I thought people might not get the reference. :)
     
  12. Fly4v

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    Used the dowel rod and sander method as originally planned for the base....

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    But used Cavx's idea of putting a bolt thru the center to shape the bowl since there wasn't a way to conveniently shape the hollow center.

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    Sadly, the glue is stronger ... more durable ... than the white pine so each joint became a ridge.

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    Also, the cup is not perfectly round but oval. What do you expect for something from the 1st Century.

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    The plan is to prime and sand until at least the vertical glue joints disappear.

    The sad part is found a can of Krylon Ruddy Red that dries in 10 minutes. Had enough for one coat and can't find another can in any of the local stories. With what I found, now have to wait 24 hours between coats.

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  13. Magnum1911

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    Wow! That is looking amazing. Great work.
     
  14. Mechanized2400

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    Very nice, looking great!
     
  15. Mike J.

    Mike J. Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    But is it dishwasher-safe?
     
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  16. InfiniTTTy

    InfiniTTTy New Member

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    Beautiful work! You have chosen wisely
     
  17. MAKE BELIEVE

    MAKE BELIEVE Sr Member

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    Very good work. Congrats!
     
  18. B Wo

    B Wo Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Cool! Nice ingenuity!
     
  19. Fly4v

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    It will be (Future Floor Polish and Acrylic Paint) wash-safe. Hate to see what the dishwasher would do to it.

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    I bought a lacquer based varnish that is a "Metal Leaf Spray Sealer" and it was a waste of $8. Good thing I tested it. The Sealer caused the leaf to lose its reflective quality... looks like gold paint now. Just glad I had a bottle of future floor polish.
     
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  20. Jintosh

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    :eek:eek:eek
     
  21. ChickenHaunt

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    This is turning out really nice and clean for such a low tech lathing technique. Makes we want to give it a try!
     
  22. Fly4v

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    Shaping the grail was simple once everything was set up. Just progressively use 40 grit on down to 120 grit sandpaper. And wore a pair of heavy duty leather gloves to protect from heat build up due to friction. The nut on the bolt only had to be tightened twice due to slippage but turning was simple thanks to using a carriage bolt and not a regular bolt

    Just keep your hand on the outer part of the turn so if the drill press kicks the force knocks your hand away as opposed to into the mechanism.

    Started doing the gold leaf.

    The leaf glue is water based as dries clear.

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    I will double guild the inside of the bowl for durability but will still weather it.
    Here is the first layer.

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    Trying to paint the glue for the continents is making me crossed. I found an image on Indy wiki for one side and am using screen caps for the others.

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  23. Mechanized2400

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    Screen accurate indeed. Looking great :thumbsup
     
  24. Fly4v

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    After numerous washes to weather and dull the finish.

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    Now have my first Indy artifact.

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    Please forgive that I used my Raiders jacket for the background.

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  25. TheWolfofBees

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    Fantastic work! You did an excellent job on this.
     
  26. Mechanized2400

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    Awesome finished piece
     
  27. MAKE BELIEVE

    MAKE BELIEVE Sr Member

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    Looks great. Good job
    Now you only need to also weather the diary, the jacket and the gloves ahah....
     
  28. Apollo

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    That came out beautiful!!
     

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