Hensoldt Wetzlar

Xhiwar

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Hey there!


I just got this in yesterday:

Scp.jpg


Now, on the opposite side, just under the knob, it says "Hensoldt Wetzlar Dialyt 3x". As I understand, the real one was a "Ziel-Dialyt". I haven't been able to find any other difference than the missing "Ziel-" though, the scope seems to be pretty close. So I contacted a few members that have the real deal:

Wakal told me that there are different variants of the scope and he's never seen two the same. Mine seems to be pretty accurate though, except the windage knob.

Pulseriflefan told me that it might be just slightly off, but I'm not seeing it really, to me there seems to be no other difference to the real thing than the missing engraving "Ziel-", the different windage knob, the Mauser mounts and the weird white sticker residue. Then again, it took me several months to spot the differences between an AP and a TE stormtrooper helmet, so I might not be the best judge of accuracy. :)

Also, I was told from someone that it was off in several places and not what was used on the Mauser, although I think Wakal and Pulseriflefan are more trustworthy AND knowledgeable sources.


Nonetheless, I'd like some more input from people "in the know" what exactly I have here. Wakal said that no two Dialyt 3x are the same, so I wonder who here HAS a Hensoldt. From what I've heard, it seems to be a pretty exclusive club.

I'm pretty happy with this scope, although it might not be 100% accurate. For 70 Euro, it still gives me a warm feeling inside, hehe.

OK, so now all I need is a replica of the mount... or better, someone to finally identify the mount! But I'd settle with a decent replica... anyone got one?
 
Proportions look right. It's just missing the knurling on the top part of the adjustment knob. I think there are variations in the top of the knob, but I'm not sure - can't see yours to compare anyway.

Once you get those mounts off you'll probably have to reblue it.

Nice piece. Certainly worthy of being on a replica and better than any repro.
 
First of all...

CONGRATULATIONS, for 70 Euro it´s not just a bargain, but a steal :)

I totally agree to Wakals and PRfan´s statements, that there are MANY variations of the H&W 3x out there. I owned 6 or 7 over the years (still have one FS, if anybody would be interested ;) ) and all of them were different.

Be it the writing, the knurling and the presence of numbers (1-10) on the windage knob (the correct would be a diamond pattern on both the large and the small part plus numbers!), the width of the lense-rings or the finish.

All in all I´m with lonepigeon...a "close" real scope is -in this case- better than any replica IMHO ;)

An advice, get youself one of these small gas-torches and heat the mounts.
They´re just soldered to the scope and come off pretty easy. Try to get rid off as much solder as you can before starting to clean up the mounting areas. Just sand these spots and reblue them, after that give the scope a treatment with weapons oil....and weather again to match the su scope :lol

Would love to see some closeups of the windage knob.

Markus :)
 
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...I only remember one or maybe two scopes that were a 100% representation of the one used on the su blaster.

Problem is that I can´t remember the name(s) of the members anymore.
Was it lordsandy, wakal... :confused

Markus
 
Thanks for the comments so far guys!
I'll take some pics tonight, had no time yesterday. The pic above is from the seller. The small part of the windage knob is without the knurling and slightly wider/larger diameter than the lower part, and it doesn't sit perfectly in the center. It's attached with two screws and does show the numbers 1-10. As said, I'll post pics tonight.

What amazes me the most is that the optics is perfectly clear, even better than the brand new 4x Tasco (?) scope I got lying around here. It truly is a beautiful piece regarding that it is still in top condition after all those years (it says "C.W. No. 867. Z." on the side, not sure if that is a serial number or something).
 
As I understand, the real one was a "Ziel-Dialyt".

I'd not heard that before, nor have I seen any 2.5x, 3x, or 4x with that word on it. (what's it mean anyway?)

The one I have just has a different windage knob, but same dimensions and bell shape. (thanks again for that trade ;) )
 
I'd not heard that before, nor have I seen any 2.5x, 3x, or 4x with that word on it. (what's it mean anyway?)

The one I have just has a different windage knob, but same dimensions and bell shape. (thanks again for that trade ;) )


I was told so by Pulseriflefan, although I had heard it before. Wakal showed me a pic of the real scope, which clearly says "Ziel-Dialyt 3x" on the side (hope it's OK to post the link Wakal, otherwise let me know):

http://www.dreadnaught-industries.com/images/file/blasters/ANH_realhero_right.jpg

Wakal's scope also says "Ziel-Dialyt 3x":

http://www.dreadnaught-industries.com/images/file/blasters/ANH_hero_HensoldtJune06.jpg

BTW, "Ziel" means "target" in German and Wakal told me that "Dialyt" means "power", although I've never heard of that before (certainly not german). And also, there's this Wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialyte_lens


Other than that (and the knurling on the knob top), mine seems to be spot on though. All dimensions seem to be the same, and that's what counts for me. Well, at that price at least. :angel
 
Other than that (and the knurling on the knob top), mine seems to be spot on though. All dimensions seem to be the same, and that's what counts for me. Well, at that price at least. :angel


Yepp, it`s an exellent find IMO - now go out and try to remove the mounts carefully :thumbsup

"Ziel-Dialyt" or not - it will be a ton closer as any reproduction.

The name is just some sort of model description - the "casing" should be equal to many other Dialyt scopes.
 
Xhiwar,

Excellent grab! For that kind of price its an awesome piece.

A few bits of info for you. Your scope mounts are soldered on. If you remove the adjustment knob and brass end pieces its pretty easy to heat up the scope with a torch and pull the mounts off with a pair of pliers. I had similar mounts on mine when I got it. You'll have to wipe off the remaining solder then sand the super thin layer of it that is left on the scope to get to bare steel. once you do that you can re-blu the steel and it should br pretty close to perfect. then reinstall all the brass and glass bits and you are stylin'.

Check out this thread for some pics of mine with and without the... mounts.
http://therpf.com/showthread.php?t=23550

The real prop does say "HENSOLDT WETZLAR" and ZIEL DIALYT 3X" on the right side but says nothing on the left side of the scope. The adjustment knob may have a number on the right side of its base (likely a serial number) and the adjustment knob does have knurling on both the top and bottom pieces although it isn't technically diamond knurling. It is actually a series of small raised round dots arranged on the diagonal so it sort of looks like it is diamond knurled.

Here is a close-up of mine on an MR Elite...
HW_KnobDetail_01.jpg
 
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