help with cleaning up a rough cast of a latex mask?
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SDGlyph
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Re: help with cleaning up a rough cast of a silicone mask?
The FX Lab's Tutorials section has some stuff on silicone seaming & painting in the stickies;
Google and YouTube ('paint silicone mask' etc) turn up plenty of others, either directly or linked from results.
Annoyingly I was looking up loads of this stuff just last week, and now I can't find half the links / videos again... Loads of stuff on latex & gelatine, but not silicone.
The FX Lab's Tutorials section has some stuff on silicone seaming & painting in the stickies;
Google and YouTube ('paint silicone mask' etc) turn up plenty of others, either directly or linked from results.
Annoyingly I was looking up loads of this stuff just last week, and now I can't find half the links / videos again... Loads of stuff on latex & gelatine, but not silicone.
MrGzilla
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Re: help with cleaning up a rough cast of a silicone mask?
ok thanks!
just realized that its a latex mask, not silicone... but thanks!
ok thanks!
just realized that its a latex mask, not silicone... but thanks!
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SonOfPumpkinhead
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Your mask is latex... Not silicone... You'll want to take a pair of SHARP scissors and trim out the eye holes and such. Then cut away the seam line, creating a bit of a trench (similar to seaming silicone). Then, clean the whole thing with mineral spirits. At this point, if there's any burs anywhere, grab a dremel with the cotton buffing wheel and some Naptha. Dab a little naptha on the bur or a rough edge and then buff off.
Now, take some new latex, thicken with cabosil and trow it into the trench, smoothing with a que tip wet with some distilled water. As it starts to set, you can add in texture to match and blend into the rest of the mask.
Painting is as simple as mixing acrylic paint with rubber cement and thinning with naptha. This can be brushed or airbrushed over the entire surface. Then go in with tinted and thinned latex, PAX, or rubber cement paint in thin washes to create depth and add color.
Now, take some new latex, thicken with cabosil and trow it into the trench, smoothing with a que tip wet with some distilled water. As it starts to set, you can add in texture to match and blend into the rest of the mask.
Painting is as simple as mixing acrylic paint with rubber cement and thinning with naptha. This can be brushed or airbrushed over the entire surface. Then go in with tinted and thinned latex, PAX, or rubber cement paint in thin washes to create depth and add color.
TylerHam
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Similar to the above - If you are REALLY REALLY CAREFUL -
Get a battery powered (not plug in - too much torque) dremel drill with the SOFTEST buffing bit you can, and slowly and carefully "sand" the seam down - Then just fill the remainder with liquid latex in thin layers until it blends smoothly -
Get a battery powered (not plug in - too much torque) dremel drill with the SOFTEST buffing bit you can, and slowly and carefully "sand" the seam down - Then just fill the remainder with liquid latex in thin layers until it blends smoothly -
SDGlyph
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Oh good, it's not just my eyes... I thought it looked like latex rather than silicone, but lacking actual experience with these things I didn't want to say anything. :confused
In that case, here's a couple more:
LearnProstheticMakeup: Painting latex (PDF doc)
XRobots: How to paint latex items
Yay, 20 posts at last! Wow, that took a long time...
In that case, here's a couple more:
LearnProstheticMakeup: Painting latex (PDF doc)
XRobots: How to paint latex items
Yay, 20 posts at last! Wow, that took a long time...
MrGzilla
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Thank you all for your help! Would silicone from a halloween store work for filling in the seam once I take the dremmil to it? I don't have much money right now to be ordering stuff.
Also, the mask won't be for wearing, I'm planning on making some eyes and filling it in with foam or something and building a stand for it using this one for reference: http://www.bestcollectiblesontheplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/creature.jpg
Also, the mask won't be for wearing, I'm planning on making some eyes and filling it in with foam or something and building a stand for it using this one for reference: http://www.bestcollectiblesontheplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/creature.jpg
Sourdoh
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My advice would be NOT to fill the mask with foam. That would be a non-reversable decision. Make a headform, or use a commercially avaiible one altered to fit the inside of the mask. That way you still have a nice mask to use if desired, and a wonderful display bust. I like the stand design, but I bet you can do better and not rip-of the commercial design.
SDGlyph
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AFAIK silicone and latex won't stick to each other, so using silicone to fill in the seams wouldn't work (and you couldn't paint over it with latex paints, either). Careful use of nail scissors - the small ones with slightly curved blades - should let you clean up the seams with very little need for filling.
I did I thread on something like this a couple years ago: http://www.therpf.com/f9/finishing-raw-michael-myers-mask-tutorial-76124/#post1067435
Give me a yell if you need help. I can give you some advice either through PMs or the phone. Ship me the mask, some liquid latex, and a couple bucks, and i'll even do it for you.
Give me a yell if you need help. I can give you some advice either through PMs or the phone. Ship me the mask, some liquid latex, and a couple bucks, and i'll even do it for you.
MrGzilla
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damn i dont know why i keep saying silicone... i meant the latex skin from haloween stores.. which i already bought some of and its working pretty well.
MrGzilla
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i was kinda thinking of doing that, but i dont really have use for a creature mask, but i guess i might in the future.
and as for the stand, i have a few ideas.. but i like the look of the oficial one but id want it to have the same feel of it. or i might go in a completely differant direction... i just dont know yet
MrGzilla
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thanks! ill look through that! and you might get a few pms later on when i start painting but id deffinitly like to do it myself, but thanks for the offer!
Just stick with real latex. You'll have to clean the talc off the mask with some warm soapy water before adding new latex. Like Tyler said, get some at the craft store, equally at this time of year, you can go into a Halloween store and buy a small bottle of liquid latex. You shouldn't need much.
As far as cutting off flash and boogers, always use small sharp scissors (cuticle scissors work best). Never use a knife.
When you're done filling in holes with the new latex, be sure to talc over the areas, and then wash the mask again before painting.
As far as cutting off flash and boogers, always use small sharp scissors (cuticle scissors work best). Never use a knife.
When you're done filling in holes with the new latex, be sure to talc over the areas, and then wash the mask again before painting.
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