Help identifying 17th/18th century costume?

[rollerboi]

So my wife and I went to a masquerade ball a few weeks ago, and we had an absolute blast. There was a fellow there who dressed up in an awesome costume, which suggested to me 18th century english or french nobility.

Can anyone help me narrow down this identification somewhat? My wife has expressed an open willingness to actually sew us similar garb, if we can find patterns, reference pictures, and resources. My focus is on the gentleman in blue. Thanks so much for any help or suggestions you guys might have!

I am also interested in any resources relating to the Hellfire Club.

 

[moviebuff5]

For patterns from that era, try:

https://reconstructinghistory.com/

They are not cheap, but there is a pretty great selection.

With those lapels and no cutaway, the pattern of the blue coat looks closest to a Victorian frock coat.

https://reconstructinghistory.com/rh904-1840s-frock-coat.php?s=&c=22&d=186&q=5&p=498&w=21

 

[rollerboi]

Hmm. No, it's definitely not Victorian era. My costume was Victorian, and it was a simple thing. I think it's closer to a Scarlet Pimpernel timeframe?

I'm woefully unfamiliar with the periods in which wigs were worn. Though it's hard to tell in the photo, the fellow had pants that cut off at the knee.

Here's a picture of something similar. The men's costume on the left is labelled as a Marquis de Sade outfit, so I suppose this gives me a clue. Hopefully any of you experienced period costumers can step in and help me out.

 

[Zeppo]

You are correct with your guess about it being 18th Century.

Powdered wigs were in vogue at that time.

Gentlemen wore knee breeches with white hose, waistcoats, shirts with lace cuffs and a jabot, and long coats.

Pirates of the Caribbean for example is set in the 18th Century.

(Victorian is late 19th Century)

 

[terryr]

I don't think his camera is period accurate.

It reminds me of the movie Amadeus.

 

[Zeppo]

Amadeus also set in the 18th Century

 

[NoTsOsErIoUs]

Well by the looks of it you know the time period. So that would make it Restoration or Georgian period but there were three Georgian periods from early 1700 to early 1800.

 

[Cibernite]

It looks like Vinitian Period garb. Sorry If I didn't spell that right.

 

[Interceptor6]

It's from approx 1850, and called a Banyan. We do 18th c reenactments, and I have several friends who wear these for "conjac and cigars" at the end of the day.
Cheers, Jeff

 

[moviebuff5]

Hmm. No, it's definitely not Victorian era.

I didn't say the outfit looked Victorian. I looked at the details of the coat and suggested the closest pattern I could find.

 

[rollerboi]

Ah, gotcha. Thanks for that!

 

[NoTsOsErIoUs]

I am also interested in any resources relating to the Hellfire Club.

Do you mean the Hellfire Club of Sir Francis Dashwood?
If so not much is known and half of what is known is total fabrication or heresay at best.

 

[rollerboi]

:lol I was wondering if anyone would pick up on that. :lol
Yes and no. It's my understanding that several Hellfire Clubs that popped up during the 18th century and onward, and several of these groups had a penchant (to my understanding) of dressing up in like manner. The only one that I'm really aware of is the Marvel comics version, and I really don't think I'll convince my wife to dress up as the White Queen. :lol

 

[NoTsOsErIoUs]

Well the site of the most infamous one of which Dashwood was a revivalist founding member is about half an hour away from me at Medmenham Abbey, West Wycombe. Been there a few times. It has caves carved out from the chalk beneath it. Was once quite a creepy place but sadly has now become something of a tourist trap with a corny giftshop.

 

[Amadscientist]

So my wife and I went to a masquerade ball a few weeks ago, and we had an absolute blast. There was a fellow there who dressed up in an awesome costume, which suggested to me 18th century english or french nobility.

Can anyone help me narrow down this identification somewhat? My wife has expressed an open willingness to actually sew us similar garb, if we can find patterns, reference pictures, and resources. My focus is on the gentleman in blue. Thanks so much for any help or suggestions you guys might have!

I am also interested in any resources relating to the Hellfire Club.

Hello Rollerboi!

I am glad I looked here...I love these old costumes....and I believe I have your answer...although I hope this doesn't disapoint you. While I loved the discussion about the eras...I believe these were shooting for the Venitian look as was mentioned ....however the men's frock jacket I recognised immediatly as Simplicity Patterns - Simplicity 5983 - Simplicity Sewing Patterns for - Simplicity Pattern Reviews So the pattern is thechnicaly Victorian. (however not the most accurate, it still is a good basic patern to have)

It's a simplicity costume pattern for Abraham Lincoln/Uncle sam. It is option B. The women's dress may be a simplicity pattern as well. I will look.

 

[Amadscientist]

OK, the gown appears to also be a simplicity historical costume pattern. I belive it is a variation of this pattern:
Sewing Patterns : Simplicity Patterns : Misses Costume - Civil War - The Museum Curator Collection

Hope this helps. If you have any questions let me know.

 

[Amadscientist]

...and I am almost certain the shirt is the pirate/vampire pattern, but I think it's out of print....also Simplicity.
Poet Pirate Shirt Pattern Renaissance Costume Xs-XL - eBay (item 350368067662 end time Oct-14-10 08:24:55 PDT)