Han Solo In Carbonite 2nd panel part discovery!

Discussion in 'Star Wars Costumes and Props' started by exsanguinate, Sep 6, 2015.

  1. exsanguinate

    exsanguinate New Member

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    First off, I'd like to thank Kurtyboy for pointing me in the right direction for this find. Kurt had thought this piece was from a Medium Format TLR camera, but after speaking to some camera experts, this was pretty much ruled out due to the size and rectangular shape Several people seemed to be very confident this was from a Medium Format 6x4.5 SLR camera. I knew the part was a waist level finder, but hunting for which one was exhaustive...until I looked closer at this shot of the original part:

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    Notice the profile against the back side of the part. It's slightly angled down, and the whole piece is very low profile. The only Medium Format cameras with a waist level finder with that low of a profile are made by Bronica. The only6x4.5 cameras made by Bronica before 1980 were the ETR series. The matching part is specifically from the ETRS/ETRSi

    Profile and slots for folding part match.
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    Notice the notch in the front of the base matching the one from the prop:

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    With the release removed and minor modifications (or potentially just removing the cover), this would match up with Kurtyboy's screen grab:

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    I've just ordered mine today off of eBay for $64 shipped from Japan. Note that there are a couple of different versions for these cameras that are essentially the same, but the angled part at the base is stretched a bit further out on the incorrect version as shown below:

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    I know I don't post much, but have learned quite a bit from this community and wanted to share this find in attempt to give a little back. The prices range quite a bit ($60-$120), and it seems almost all of the stock is in Japan. I had really hoped that the knob on the prop would also be from this camera, but I'm afraid that isn't the case. After looking at a ridiculous amount of cameras over the last few days, I am convinced that the knob is a winder from a mid to late 70's camera. You can find these on eBay by searching for Bronica Waist Level Finder.

    Cheers!

    Scott

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  2. papamurf812

    papamurf812 Active Member

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    Good find! This will definitely help out future builds.
     
  3. Hirohawa

    Hirohawa Sr Member

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    Excellent find!
     
  4. DarkJerre

    DarkJerre Active Member

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    Thanks for sharing indeed ! That is what propping is all about. Looking / finding / sharing ... For those of you reading this post I still have a few of the original HIC gas displays, both the +- and 88 displays (NOS) Mint condition. If you're looking send me a pm.
     
  5. kurtyboy

    kurtyboy Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Thanks again for finding this. I can't wait to add mine :)
     
  6. Bigturc

    Bigturc Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    A lot of people won't be ordering the right one. Guys, as was said, notice the triangular shape where the pivot is, the triangle shaped one is the right one, not the stretched one.

    I'll try to hunt one .. not really willing to pay 150$ for this. But if I do get one, I'll drop it in rubber and offer it as part of the HIC package I'm already selling. Hopefully, finding one won't take too much time (so stop buying them all!!!)

    :)
     
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  7. exsanguinate

    exsanguinate New Member

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    Yup, made sure mine shipped before I posted :) also, the incorrect part has "Zenza" in italics.
     
  8. AnubisGuard

    AnubisGuard Sr Member

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    Oh great, now these things will get even more expensive. :lol So much for ever being able to build a Galaxy Quest Surface Scanner!

    Hmm. Crazy thought -- the part used here is the exact bit that was removed/missing from the ones used in Galaxy Quest. What do you suppose the chances are that the Surface Mappers were built using the left over waist level finders from ESB?
     
  9. exsanguinate

    exsanguinate New Member

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    Wow, popular part, but at least it's the version not on the HIC prop.
     
  10. AnubisGuard

    AnubisGuard Sr Member

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    Oh, you're right. I misread which of the two designs they used.
     
  11. steveparkes

    steveparkes Active Member

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    Erk, trying to get a replacement now for my Bronica is going to be hard now every star wars person will be buying them :D lucky I already have one on my 6x4.5 Etrs (not that I will be taking it off to build a Han in carbonite) :D
     
  12. Gator Fett

    Gator Fett Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Another great HIC find. Thanks for doing the leg work and sharing your discovery.
     
  13. Bigturc

    Bigturc Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Hey people,
    I waited too long to buy this .. anyone willing for me to borrow their original? Please PM me if you successfully bought one. Of course, I'm willing to pay to borrow it!
     
  14. DarthVader1

    DarthVader1 Well-Known Member

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    I can't wait to see someone making a casting out of this part, to finally start my HIC project... it's being on hold for the past 5 years, and THIS is the part I was waiting for.
     
  15. Bigturc

    Bigturc Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I'm still looking for someone to contact me to do exactly this! My molding material is ready but I just don't have an original!
     
  16. Reel Fakes

    Reel Fakes Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I got one of these the other day and have been tinkering with it...
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  17. Bigturc

    Bigturc Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Finally received mine too .. Dropped it in rubber!

    Original on left .. Cast on the right!

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  18. exsanguinate

    exsanguinate New Member

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    Has anyone attempted the cover portion? I think I've figured it out, but would love to hear other ideas before I fully commit
     
  19. Bigturc

    Bigturc Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I'd love To see what people have done. I know for a fact that I would not display with a cover but still curious ..


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  20. DarthVader1

    DarthVader1 Well-Known Member

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    Question; did you made a mold out of one, or you've just purchased a rubber casting?

    Reason I ask is because I'm interested in one casting. Please, let me know via PM.

     
  21. Bigturc

    Bigturc Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Hey DV1,
    I bought the original AND made a mold of it for casting. I'm pretty sure not everyone wants to pay 150$ for just that part!

    PM me for details and which parts you want. Make sure to check all my HIC threads too! :)


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  22. lmakeltraln

    lmakeltraln New Member

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    Chris - which Bronica camera did that come from?
     
  23. lmakeltraln

    lmakeltraln New Member

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    anyone know what this part is? Untitled.png
     
  24. lmakeltraln

    lmakeltraln New Member

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    picked up one of these on eBay and messed around with it. thanks Reel Fakes for pointing me to the right one

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