HalloweenCostumes.com "Back to the Future 2 Light Up Shoes"
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cavx
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glasses No probably not. The rubber changes from clear to solid with these pigments. The clear pigments remain clear, just get darker. I have mixed lower amounts to see if I can make it opaque or keep it translucent, but no luck so far. Maybe large amounts of rubber (say 250+ grams) and a drop or two might give the right result, but that is an expensive waste if it fails. I will keep looking for the right product.
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MrSouthpaw
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HC mags are now in-stock all sizes except 5 and 15.
Those won't be fully stocked up until April, according to the HC mag page. Corroborating what HC told me and I reported in this post on the 13th.
Those won't be fully stocked up until April, according to the HC mag page. Corroborating what HC told me and I reported in this post on the 13th.
cavx
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Interesting. Given that these use the V2 sole, I wonder if those shoes will come in the extended size range now. If they come in US5, I can get my wife a pair
What a disappointment right out of the box. I feel like I can watch the clear sole yellow. The added stitching around the laces secures exposed foam on the underside. Another obvious step back from the correctly handled hidden seam of the V2. The reduced height also makes for a poorly fitting strap and buckle.
I thought these would be a good base to create a more movie-like sneaker. Unfortunately, my pair is almost welded together and after one hour with the butter knife I'm only halfway around one toe. EL and LEDs are on the way but I almost wish I had started with the V2.
I thought these would be a good base to create a more movie-like sneaker. Unfortunately, my pair is almost welded together and after one hour with the butter knife I'm only halfway around one toe. EL and LEDs are on the way but I almost wish I had started with the V2.
FreddyTV
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Not sure what you were expecting for $100. I personally think the HC Mags decent and that the V2s are WAY over priced for a fake unauthorized shoe.
The only reason to buy an hc mag is either you don't have cash to waste or you want to practice before you go and buy the v2 I'm kind of in both reasons but like FreddyTV said the v2 is pretty expensive at 230 now I know it's a steal to have a shoe that with a few mods can look pretty close to real deal but after it's all said and done you're a few hundred into a shoe that takes a lot of work to get it looking good. If it was 150 id buy a pair but then I would also want to pay 130 for cavx clear soles and then around another 130 to get the proper electronics you're looking at over 400 and that's if the shoes ever go down in price wich I honestly doubt they ever will. If you want a better shoe you need to spend more money that's just the facts
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FreddyTV
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I agree the V2s are much closer to the authentics but I just can't see myself paying so much for an unauthorized shoe. Especially when HC is selling basically the same shoe as the V2 for $150 less and STILL making money - how much are the AliExpress sellers making off those V2s then?
airair
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The sellers on aliexpress have to pay a high price to buy stock from the knockoff factories. The factory sets the price, so what you are seeing is abnormal pricing for this particular fake.
What's happened is that the price has been kept high because demand has stayed high. The factory is grabbing every last drop it can from these shoes.
Hc are cheap because they bought thousands.
You buy thousands you get cheaper pricing.
They don't deal with small quantities.
Is there hope for the airair version? I just couldn't bring myself to drop $230+ on one pair of V2s knowing I'd still be taking them apart.
cavx
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Re: HalloweenCostumes.com "Back to the Future 2 Light Up Shoes"
When it comes to buying or manufacturing out of China, it has always been a case of no short orders or if you do get one through, you pay heaps more for each part.
If money if the issue, you might have to ask yourself - how bad do you really want MAGs? Ever since we saw these shoes on screen, they have been a want for so many. The V2 was as close as we could get off the shelf. Sure they are over priced but as airair said these factories are out to get as much as they can in the time they can. The HC shoes would have been awesome if they simply unbranded the V2 upper and gone with that. I'd be buying a few pair right now.
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When it comes to buying or manufacturing out of China, it has always been a case of no short orders or if you do get one through, you pay heaps more for each part.
If money if the issue, you might have to ask yourself - how bad do you really want MAGs? Ever since we saw these shoes on screen, they have been a want for so many. The V2 was as close as we could get off the shelf. Sure they are over priced but as airair said these factories are out to get as much as they can in the time they can. The HC shoes would have been awesome if they simply unbranded the V2 upper and gone with that. I'd be buying a few pair right now.
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Even if "Mr Fushion" makes it to the market, the first I will be doing is changing out the clear soles. I am hoping by then that will have a made a complete new mid-sole and new heel cup as well.
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FreddyTV
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Re: HalloweenCostumes.com "Back to the Future 2 Light Up Shoes"
I guess you guys have a point but you're telling me they are not making V2s in the thousands? Not sure about that.
What at sucks too is that by people paying the 230-250 for V2s, it makes the factories settle and not bother to improve the shoes. I know that with fake Jordans they are constantly improving them and it's to the point that most Retros are hard to tell the fake from the real ones.
I'm sure adding a 5-10 light the the Nike on the strap of the V2s is doable for the factories. I mean if you're going to fake a shoe, go all the way.
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I guess you guys have a point but you're telling me they are not making V2s in the thousands? Not sure about that.
What at sucks too is that by people paying the 230-250 for V2s, it makes the factories settle and not bother to improve the shoes. I know that with fake Jordans they are constantly improving them and it's to the point that most Retros are hard to tell the fake from the real ones.
I'm sure adding a 5-10 light the the Nike on the strap of the V2s is doable for the factories. I mean if you're going to fake a shoe, go all the way.
I guess you guys have a point but you're telling me they are not making V2s in the thousands? Not sure about that.
What at sucks too is that by people paying the 230-250 for V2s, it makes the factories settle and not bother to improve the shoes. I know that with fake Jordans they are constantly improving them and it's to the point that most Retros are hard to tell the fake from the real ones.
I'm sure adding a 5-10 light the the Nike on the strap of the V2s is doable for the factories. I mean if you're going to fake a shoe, go all the way.
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I guess you guys have a point but you're telling me they are not making V2s in the thousands? Not sure about that.
What at sucks too is that by people paying the 230-250 for V2s, it makes the factories settle and not bother to improve the shoes. I know that with fake Jordans they are constantly improving them and it's to the point that most Retros are hard to tell the fake from the real ones.
I'm sure adding a 5-10 light the the Nike on the strap of the V2s is doable for the factories. I mean if you're going to fake a shoe, go all the way.
airair
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Re: HalloweenCostumes.com "Back to the Future 2 Light Up Shoes"
The reason they are not doing another version is because they do not know how to do the electronics correctly and since the existing versions are still selling, there is no need for them to open new moulds and change anything, despite certain things being innacurate such as the grey soles and the clear soles and the entire electronics.
Once they have made a mould, they keep reusing it, and sharing it between factories, until demand dies down. The reason they have kept the price high is because people keep buying it. They set the ridiculous price at the start and its more or less stayed the same because if its selling, why drop the price? its profit to them, they have to make the bread and have the consumer by the balls. Yes, the are prices too high, but unfortunately thats the way with fakes, especially these. The mags may be popular but they are nothing in popularity compared with Air Jordans and other Nike's. Most of those Air Jordan or similar fakes keep getting improved because the majority of the fixes are on the fabric rather than on any major parts.
You should see the prices for the "unauthorised authentic" replicas, supposedly the highest grade of replica available, and almost 95 to 99% identical in many cases. These are going for $150 to $250, so its obvious these replica fake manufacturers know the deal with supply and demand, and nothings going to make them change. They've seen how desperate people are for fakes, so they are giving them what they want.
This clip in one word sums up everything about the shoe "game" these days, lol!
These fake Mags are derived from the Mark Poon shoe. The Mark Poon shoe was copied and those black/yellow, black/red, silver/brown, and white/black V1's came out.
Then when they saw demand was high, they modified it and added some parts onto it such as the heel, and clear soles and made a new upper which is still innacurate.
I'm still waiting on my samples, and from my communications, they are still finding it extremely difficult to do the finger pull holes. Just waiting to see what they end up like as they are using my uppers which I sent for them to replicate, in particular the thicker uppers and the single seam down the back and the single seam down the side, rather than a whole piece stitched for the top side only,which is what these V2 and HC have.
I'll have to wait and see what it ends up like before making a decision but I can tell you that they use non UV stable rubber and thats to keep costs down, and unless specifically requested, thats what they insist on using.
The reason they are not doing another version is because they do not know how to do the electronics correctly and since the existing versions are still selling, there is no need for them to open new moulds and change anything, despite certain things being innacurate such as the grey soles and the clear soles and the entire electronics.
Once they have made a mould, they keep reusing it, and sharing it between factories, until demand dies down. The reason they have kept the price high is because people keep buying it. They set the ridiculous price at the start and its more or less stayed the same because if its selling, why drop the price? its profit to them, they have to make the bread and have the consumer by the balls. Yes, the are prices too high, but unfortunately thats the way with fakes, especially these. The mags may be popular but they are nothing in popularity compared with Air Jordans and other Nike's. Most of those Air Jordan or similar fakes keep getting improved because the majority of the fixes are on the fabric rather than on any major parts.
You should see the prices for the "unauthorised authentic" replicas, supposedly the highest grade of replica available, and almost 95 to 99% identical in many cases. These are going for $150 to $250, so its obvious these replica fake manufacturers know the deal with supply and demand, and nothings going to make them change. They've seen how desperate people are for fakes, so they are giving them what they want.
This clip in one word sums up everything about the shoe "game" these days, lol!
These fake Mags are derived from the Mark Poon shoe. The Mark Poon shoe was copied and those black/yellow, black/red, silver/brown, and white/black V1's came out.
Then when they saw demand was high, they modified it and added some parts onto it such as the heel, and clear soles and made a new upper which is still innacurate.
I'm still waiting on my samples, and from my communications, they are still finding it extremely difficult to do the finger pull holes. Just waiting to see what they end up like as they are using my uppers which I sent for them to replicate, in particular the thicker uppers and the single seam down the back and the single seam down the side, rather than a whole piece stitched for the top side only,which is what these V2 and HC have.
I'll have to wait and see what it ends up like before making a decision but I can tell you that they use non UV stable rubber and thats to keep costs down, and unless specifically requested, thats what they insist on using.
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JLeezy23
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lol I think about all replica making stores the same way, I see Wolverine leather jacket replicas on theebay and their price is high despite the wrong design, having wrong seams and proportions being noticeably off compared to the movie versions. Yet they all have customers so they keep making them the same way. If they have the reference, tools, skills, and money to do it right, why do it wrong at all? Simple: Because half of the people won't notice that its different from the original (unlike us LOL)
airair
Sr Member
You are right.
I've seen enough people post up a picture of the chinese fakes and thing that they are the actual nike mags, glow in the dark strap and all.
Most people or casual observers are not into immense detail unlike us.
Yes, sadly our discerning tastes only represent a tiny fraction of the market.
This licensed version must be on Nike's radar. If the site is selling thousands of these a month you have to hope Nike would want a piece of the action and go mass release this year. Then we might see some really nice impostors.
So who's modding these? I'm working on new straps using the NIKE template in the V2 thread. With the recommended clear stickers and a lazer printer, will I still have to worry about the EL light-bleed through the black toner?
This licensed version must be on Nike's radar. If the site is selling thousands of these a month you have to hope Nike would want a piece of the action and go mass release this year. Then we might see some really nice impostors.
So who's modding these? I'm working on new straps using the NIKE template in the V2 thread. With the recommended clear stickers and a lazer printer, will I still have to worry about the EL light-bleed through the black toner?
MrSouthpaw
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Yes, I heard NIKE knew about the HC mag. They didn't like the idea at all, and I wasn't given an answer how HC and Universal made it happen.
I printed on clear sheets, mirrored. Not stickers, just regular clear sheets. When you flip it back around the nike logo is correct, but the toner is inside the strap protected instead of outside and vulnerable to scratching. Glue it in with something like Dritz instant vinyl. Don't use to much and create a bead of glue that squishes out, in fact I rubbed it into the cloth-side of the vinyl and then laid down the label on top of it.
Most print the transparency, then run it back through the printer again for a double-thick layer of toner.
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