Ghostbusters (2016) (Post-release)

[Krull]

saw this posted online somewhere.
it's interesting to see how even psuedo celebrities can behave like racist jerks, yet one guy who makes two comments toward you can get thrown off twitter. andthis time it's a girl who posted this article. I guess she isn't buying into this leslie jones stuff either.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...to-see-if-twitter-has-bias-see-what-happened/

I've noted this on several forums I've been banned from:you're free in this country so long as you say what you're supposed to and that rule applies differently to whoever is talking,someone can say A but if I say the same thing I get hung upside down and set afire.

We're such a mass of hypocrites.

 

[d_osborn]

I've noted this on several forums I've been banned from:you're free in this country so long as you say what you're supposed to and that rule applies differently to whoever is talking,someone can say A but if I say the same thing I get hung upside down and set afire.

We're such a mass of hypocrites.

If you're being banned from multiple forums, maybe society isn't the best thing to blame.

 

[NeoRutty]

Just to kill a little delusion... no company is going to pour money into a sequel just to say "I told you so"... Won't happen.

If there's a sequel it will be because of favorable reviews, and how it plays on Netflix and sells on Blu-ray. It's tough to get people out to the theater, and even tougher when you get caught in an internet dog pile and it affects the final numbers. But going by reviews of average movie goers, and even people on this site full of hardcore nerds, the movie doesn't suck.

Sony has a good working relationship with Paul Fieg... people can say he "can't direct" all they want, but his previous track record doesn't lie. Comedy is subjective, but you'd be nuts to say he can't do comedy when Bridesmaids is one of the funniest movies in the last few years. I haven't seen The Heat or Spy, but I've heard they are funny as well. But you have to like that style of comedy... and comedy types can be as different as an action movie to a drama. I hate punchline humor, so Feig, Apatow movies are more my thing.

Feig can't do comedy? FREAKS AND GEEKS.

Also, a company like Sony won't PUNISH someone like Feig because a move under performs for whatever reason. Seth Rogen had a bit of a disaster with "The Interview"... even leading to the hack that leaked all those emails. Did they drop him for that? "The Night Before" also did terrible box office... But you keep them on because you know they are more win than lose... Hell Sony will make SO much money off Sausage Party they'll pretty much let Rogen do whatever he wants for the next 10 years.

There will be a GB sequel because they believe in Feig and will see the potential to make money... People who avoided it in the theater cuz of all the BS and other options, will discover it at home... I'd be surprised if there wasn't a sequel.

 

[Snikt]

Just to kill a little delusion... no company is going to pour money into a sequel just to say "I told you so"... Won't happen.

If there's a sequel it will be because of favorable reviews, and how it plays on Netflix and sells on Blu-ray. It's tough to get people out to the theater, and even tougher when you get caught in an internet dog pile and it affects the final numbers. But going by reviews of average movie goers, and even people on this site full of hardcore nerds, the movie doesn't suck.

Sony has a good working relationship with Paul Fieg... people can say he "can't direct" all they want, but his previous track record doesn't lie. Comedy is subjective, but you'd be nuts to say he can't do comedy when Bridesmaids is one of the funniest movies in the last few years. I haven't seen The Heat or Spy, but I've heard they are funny as well. But you have to like that style of comedy... and comedy types can be as different as an action movie to a drama. I hate punchline humor, so Feig, Apatow movies are more my thing.

Feig can't do comedy? FREAKS AND GEEKS.

Also, a company like Sony won't PUNISH someone like Feig because a move under performs for whatever reason. Seth Rogen had a bit of a disaster with "The Interview"... even leading to the hack that leaked all those emails. Did they drop him for that? "The Night Before" also did terrible box office... But you keep them on because you know they are more win than lose... Hell Sony will make SO much money off Sausage Party they'll pretty much let Rogen do whatever he wants for the next 10 years.

There will be a GB sequel because they believe in Feig and will see the potential to make money... People who avoided it in the theater cuz of all the BS and other options, will discover it at home... I'd be surprised if there wasn't a sequel.

Ask Marvel or Disney how tough it is to get people into the theater. Make a good movie, and people will see it. Its not really that hard especially for an established IP. I also dont see all the hype over Bridesmaids, I saw it, and I only remember a couple scenes from it. I guess Im just not a fan of Paul Feig, that, or I just havent seen anything of his thats funny. *shrug* And thats ok.

 

[batguy]

If you're being banned from multiple forums, maybe society isn't the best thing to blame.

I'd say that depends on how reasonable society is being lately.

Try speaking out against a popular-but-wrong war, for example. People have lost their careers over it. In the "free country" of the USA. In this century.

 

[Westies14]

I'd accept people pointing to Freaks & Geeks as proof of Feig's comedy chops if his films felt anything at all like the show. I gotta think that series was very Apatow-driven. It's character focused and understated in its comedic moments - exactly the opposite of Feig's ridiculous slapstick-fartjoke filmography. I wouldn't have minded a GB sequel by the creative force behind F&G; that would seem like a very decent fit, tonally. Too bad that guy is nowhere to be found!

 

[KrangPrime]

I'd accept people pointing to Freaks & Geeks as proof of Feig's comedy chops if his films felt anything at all like the show. I gotta think that series was very Apatow-driven. It's character focused and understated in its comedic moments - exactly the opposite of Feig's ridiculous slapstick-fartjoke filmography. I wouldn't have minded a GB sequel by the creative force behind F&G; that would seem like a very decent fit, tonally. Too bad that guy is nowhere to be found!

maybe he just did 'acceptable comedy' to get a name for himself in the industry, and then have enough power to do his brand of 'super' comedy, of fart and dick jokes?

Or maybe he just put his name on it and didn't really do much of anything.

everything i've seen of feig shows the man doesn't really know comedy. at least his latest projects.

I'll never get back the 5 aborted attempts to try and finish spy.

And Peanuts doesn't count either. he was one of about 5 producers on that IIRC. it's so out of his wheel house i don't even know how he got attached to it.

 

[KrangPrime]

This imdb post is quite funny

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http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2016-07-25&p=.htm

To clarify - the movie is a direct-to-video animated feature that got a two-nights-only limited release. On night one (yesterday), the movie brought roughly 25% more money in than Ghostbusters did on the same day, in spite of the movie playing in about a third of the theaters that Ghostbusters is currently playing in.

 

[NeoRutty]

It also beat Finding Dory. You can't use that as a measure of Quality. You're playing off like THE KILLING JOKE is just some little animated film they tried out in theaters.

Maybe the most popular Batman Comic of all time. Written by Alan Moore, and Starring MARK HAMILL. Batman is also an IP WAY More popular than Ghostbusters.

I know people who never go to movies who lined up for that last night... It was like "The thing to see"...

I like the comic too much to deal with the half-assed animation... I'll wait for Netflix.

 

[KrangPrime]

http://www.makers.com/blog/cyber-bullying-social-media-taylor-swift-leslie-jones

Apart from the lovely click bait headline from aol uniting people one article at a time..

add in another notch to the conspiracy angle. I literally lol'ed at this one. 'There where reasons'.
here is what i think happened.


Camp Feigbusters saw the review.
They contact twitter and asked for permission to go after this guy with a phony campaign, since it gives them another controversy.
Star struck Twitter CEO agreed, apparently trying to get rid of this guy for a while..
They baited this milo guy with gay slurs.
he didn't really respond or take the bait.
Feig started writing the racists comments, jones re tweeted them, probably from intern accounts.
the twitter ceo 'contacted' jones...
jones 'left' twitter for a day and a half to 'tug at the heart strings'.
milo guy got banned.
jones magically returns a day or two later....

all is happy in celeb loving twitter verse.
You have to admit, it fits up nicely...

also, people throw around the bully term far too loosely. taylor swift does come off as a clingy snake writing breakup songs with every boyfriend

 

[Strongbow]

I don't understand the talk about no boys or men liking or going to the film.

I dunno. I totally dug it, and all my IRL friends dug it too. It was good fun, and I was surprised because the trailers were terrible.

 

[goldenhawk]

Wow, the pro rebooter at GBFans are celebrating the fact that Feigbusters has made $125 million domestically and foreign markets combined. The jaded fools forget that about one half of that box office take belongs to the movie theaters. So this means Feigbusters has only made $62.5 million for Sony. With the new movies coming up this weekend and next, Feigbusters will probably see their box office run end soon.

If the math is correct, the total spent by Sony is $144 million for production and $100 million for marketing for a total of $244 million. To date, Sony has taken in $62.5 million. this equates to a net loss of $181.5 million. Based on these numbers, I just don't see the Sony execs approving a Feigbusters sequel.

 

[Westies14]

If the math is correct, the total spent by Sony is $144 million for production and $100 million for marketing for a total of $244 million. To date, Sony has taken in $62.5 million. this equates to a net loss of $181.5 million. Based on these numbers, I just don't see the Sony execs approving a Feigbusters sequel.

Let's hope you're right, and they can get back to telling the real GB timeline if they make anything at all from here on out.

 

[KrangPrime]

that's ok.

if the want to enjoy their two and a half weeks in the sun... i say 'let 'em' ;o).

this movie they love so dearly will kill off any future ghostbuster projects, because it'll just say to the studio 'fans arn't interested'

rather than 'our idea sucked, and we divided the fan base and THAT is why fans didn't show up'

 

[d_osborn]

The jaded fools forget that about one half of that box office take belongs to the movie theaters.

Theaters don't take 50%-- especially not in the first two weeks. More like 20%, if that.

...and that's not what jaded means.

 

[OldKen]

Soo... How were the non sexist, non racist, non vitriolic men of the world represented in the film?

Please retort and elaborate!

(Oh wait, there were no "good guy" men represented in the cast, OR even in the background)

This movie is sexist for the sake of it. Period.

Some of you that defend this crap have never had a girlfriend or female friends I GARAUNTEE it. It's hillarious.

No kidding! I'm as hardcore of a fan as you can get, and I never felt slighted by the marketing or cast/crew. They were railing on misogynists, racists, and overly-vitriolic complaining manbabies. True, the manbabies were low hanging fruit, but I don't blame them at all for striking back. The fact that the haters are complaining about being made fun of in the press is actually pretty funny to me.

Sony is too franchise hungry and has too much dough tied up in the Ghost Corps deal with the original approval primaries to not produce more content. People are acting like this is the first GB film to under-perform at the summer box office.

 

[goldenhawk]

Theaters don't take 50%-- especially not in the first two weeks. More like 20%, if that.

...and that's not what jaded means.

Oh. That's right. You're one of those pro rebooters on GBFans. The pro reboot stance of that site is why I cannot stand GBFans anymore. Especially when AJ and crew went the pro-reboot way in hopes of increasing his sales in the GBFans shop. Hopefully he gets stuck will all that reboot stuff that no one wants anymore.

OK, let's take your numbers. 80 percent of $125 million is $100 million taken in by Sony. $144 million spent by Sony for production and $100 million for marketing is $244 million. You assumed that Sony has taken in $100 million, and that equates to a net loss of $144 million. Sony does not have a SW or Marvel movie here. What they have is a loser of a movie. LMAO.

BTW, the reboot crap is back on clearance at the Target down the street:

 

[AJTaliesen]

I don't think they'll leave the franchise alone, just like Fantastic Four won't get left alone.

But when they do try again they will almost certainly rethink the concept and/or people, or else scale the budget way down so that "good for a Feig comedy" actually equals a decent profit.

 

[d_osborn]

Soo... How were the non sexist, non racist, non vitriolic men of the world represented in the film?

Please retort and elaborate!

(Oh wait, there were no "good guy" men represented in the cast, OR even in the background)

This movie is sexist for the sake of it. Period.

Some of you that defend this crap have never had a girlfriend or female friends I GARAUNTEE it. It's hillarious.

Did you mean to spell guarantee incorrectly? If so, I'm missing the joke.

...and really-- questioning a male nerd about his relationships with women? That's a bit of an old stereotype, don't you think? My girlfriend is just as amazing and talented as she is drop dead gorgeous. I could write for three hours about how cool my female pals are, but I'm honestly too busy.

The post you quoted was asking for sources on the GB16 marketing hating on hardcore fans, I'm not sure why you're bringing the racism/sexism/hate angle into the argument. Still waiting on an example of how GB16 marketing targeted fans.

Oh. That's right. You're one of those pro rebooters on GBFans.

Nothing in my post was pro/against the reboot. I corrected you on your incorrect facts.

I don't think they'll leave the franchise alone, just like Fantastic Four won't get left alone.

Of course not-- Sony is franchise hungry and they have tooooo much money tied up in their deal with the GB primaries.

 

[Axlotl]

$13.98 is the clearance price for a 4 inch action figure???
Do they even WANT to sell those?