Gandalf the Grey

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SithariRog

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My journey in creating Gandalf the Grey…

As with most recurring characters, costumes change (sometimes not so subtly) between films, and this is true for Gandalf the Grey, as well. While his staff changes most drastically, the rest of his costume mostly remains true from film to film, though there are minor differences (like embroidery, the texture of the outer cloak, the design of the outer cloak, and a few other minor things). While I am mostly going for the Gandalf version seen in The Hobbit: And Unexpected Journey, I did (study and) take from all of the six films. The bottom line is: I wanted a quality quintessential “Gandalf” costume that is easily recognized as such, and is as screen accurate as is feasible (for a costume that I might wear twice a year) and that only the hardened critic could recognize nuances of how the costume differs from various incarnations seen in the films. As for the costume build: I’m making everything myself (except the staff, the scarf, the shoes and belt buckle), and will explain each piece.

So…with that said, here’s my take on Gandalf the Grey from (mostly) The Hobbit: And Unexpected Journey.

First, I studied various screen caps for many months, and read as much as I could find on the costume (which is very little), and how the few others who have made this costume made theirs. As with most costumes, there is very little information available and what is available is often out of date, with some broken links.

Main Robe (Tunic)

-The main robe or tunic seems to be made of a hand woven material that is aged (severely worn and stained). Regardless of what was used in the film, I chose to use a hand woven 100% cotton from Dharma Trading. This fabric seems to be available year around, and comes in a raw (ivory) color.
http://www.dharmatrading.com/fabric/cotton/handwoven-natural-fabric-55-inch.html
This fabric shrinks a LOT. The test piece I washed and dried (roughly 10” long by the width, which was roughly 55”) shrunk by nearly 40%. Because of this, I ended up using very nearly all (and I mean all) of the 20 yards I ordered (for the robe…I ordered another 10 yards for the pants). After washing and dying, it ended up being somewhere between 14-16 yards long and about 40” wide.

It’s easily dyed. I used Gunmetal Gray (PR50) and mostly went by the tutorials on the Dharma site. I will say that I doubled the dye, because I wanted it to be a dark gray. However, it ended up being too “blue”. So I set out to bleach the crap out of it and start over. After the second bleaching, the color lightened just enough to eliminate the “blue” tint and, to my eyes, looked nearly perfect.

Here’s the fabric raw, washed & dried, then stained (and box pleated).

11 Fabric RawWashedDyed.jpg


As you can see, were it not for the box pleating, this fabric would be too thin (or see through) without some kind of liner. No liner was used for my Gandalf (again…because of the thickness gained through box pleating).

On with the costume development!

I’ve made MANY Jedi costumes, and realized that Gandalf’s main tunic is very similar. Basically, there are two front panels and a back panel, joined to a yoke, then full sleeves are added.
 

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SithariRog

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The Yoke:

The first task was to develop the yoke pattern. I set out doing a drape method of developing the yoke. Rather than using fabric, I used tissue paper. This stuff is the same paper that is used to pack or cushion gifts, and can be bought from any craft/hobby store. It comes in roughly 20”x20” sheets, and is thin (see through) but sturdy enough to use for copying patterns for use to make whatever.

1 Developing Yoke.jpg


Here’s the front and back made of fabric:

2 Yoke Try Back.jpg 3 Yoke Try Front.jpg

I decided the front and back points of the yoke was too pointy…

4 Gandalf Back Yoke.jpg

…so I rounded them a bit;
5 Yoke Mod.JPG
 

SithariRog

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The Mock Up:

I always do a mock up, especially for a new costume. I chose a flannel “Black Watch Tartan” set of sheets. I wanted to test 2-inch box pleats with this mock up. Here is the box pleats being pinned:
6 MockUp Mat Box Pleats.jpg


The yoke was made in two layers, rights sides sewn together, then turned inside out, and the opening sewed shut. The yoke was attached to the panels, right sides together, then flipped, in order to hide these stitches. It took a little doing, and thinking. No pics of that, but if anyone wants more details on how I did that, let me know.

Front and Back Panels sewn to the yoke:
7 MockUp Front.jpg 8 MockUp Back.jpg

The panels turned inside out and laid on top of eachother. The arm holes were cut through front and back panels, so the arm holes would be even.
9 MockUp Adj Arms.JPG


I’m sorry, but I don’t have a picture of the sleeves. They were basically trapezoidal in shape, where the shoulder side was longer than the hand side. Five box 2-inch box pleats were centered on the shoulder. After this was done, the sleeves were more “squarish” in shape. These were sewn to the yoke-panel section….THEN the side seams were sewn together.

Here’s the mostly finished mock up, make black and white, to remove the distraction of the tartan design:

10 MockUp Finished.jpg

In the end, I added some belt loops and pockets, made a belt…all for a really cozy winter house coat!

Now that my design was deemed “good”, I set out making the main robe with the dyed woven cotton fabric. Here are the progress pics of this step:

Stabilizing the box pleats with basting stitches:
12 Stabilizing Box Pleats.jpg
The fabric has such a lose weave that pins wouldn’t stay, so I had to pin the box pleats, then stabilize them with basting stitches. The pins were removed before sewing. After the tunic was together, I removed the basting stitching.

Front and Back (no sleeves):

13 Front.jpg 14 Back.jpg

This picture shows the sleeves added. Here, I’m removing the bottom excess material, and showing that, with all of the box pleating…the bottom border of the tunic is over 4 yards long! I used some of this excess fabric to do the hems at the sleeves and at the bottom of the tunic.
15 WSleeves and Hem.jpg

The front, close up of the nearly finished tunic. Note the stitches at the waist line. This was necessary to stabilize the box pleats…otherwise, they would easily fall out. This double stitching will be hidden by the belt.
16 Close Front.JPG

And a floor length view, pre embroidery:
17 Finished Main.jpg

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The Embroidery:

The yoke, sleeves, and bottom are all have embroidery. The tunic is also split up the back from the floor to the belt. Interestingly, research reveals that there are two kinds of embroidery. The yoke/sleeve/bottom embroidery (that can be referred to as “horizontal” embroidery) is different than the vertical front and back split embroidery.

First, I did some experimentation. I used basic knitting yarn. I found it too thick (top). The bottom right was a thinner yarn…but it just didn’t look right. The bottom left is the same yarn as the top, but I separated the four strands of yarn into two stranded pieces.
18 Embroidery Tests.jpg

This shows the two kinds of embroidery. Left is the “vertical” design that is seen on the front and at the back, from the floor up to the belt. The right shows the “horizontal” design that is seen around the yoke, and on the sleeves and parallel to the bottom hem.
19 Yoke Designs.jpg

Here’s a close up of the embroidery around the yoke:
20 Embroidery Yoke.JPG

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Tie String for the Tunic:

The front of the tunic on the yoke is held together by a tie string that is laced through five pairs of holes. I searched high and wide for the right string, and find it difficult to find a cotton string that was 3/8-inch wide. It was ultimately dyed with the same dye as the tunic.
21 Tie String.jpg

There is no reinforcing stitching on the outside of the yoke for the string or lace holes. However, this yoke is backed with an osnaburg cotton, dyed the same grey color. I did put reinforced stitching on the inside. Of course, this makes it difficult to thread the string through the holes from the outer surface. To help with this, I used Super Glue on the string ends to make them stiff.
22 Tie String.jpg

Also, on this picture, I’ll address the hems. The hems at the end of the sleeves and on the tunic bottom is about 6-inches wide. It’s also rather thick, so that (in my opinion) it can give weight to this, otherwise, light fabric. This allows the sleeves to hang well, and allows the bottom to flow properly when walking. This is how I did it:
-First, I took a strip of fabric that was about 14” wide, and the length of the sleeves (or bottom). This was sewed on the outside, with right sides together, and about 6” “up” from the ends of the sleeves or bottom border. There was about an inch of excess of this border fabric. The border fabric was then allowed to hang “down”. This means that the stitch made didn’t show. The border fabric was then turned under about an inch, ironed, then turned under about six inches…and to the inside. This inside stitch was hand sewn. This gave the sleeve hem and bottom hem three thickness of the woven cotton, which made it thick and gave it some weight. The embroidery was then placed along the edge of the hemmed sections. You can see this above.
 

SithariRog

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The Belt:

Sorry for the small picture of Gandalf’s belt:
23 GtG Belt.jpg

To me, this looks like a fabric belt (i.e., not leather). I decided to make my belt out of a stiff canvas. In addition, the belt is obviously woven. I compared various woven belt pics from a Google search, and decided that an eight-braided belt looked right. There’s a tutorial on how to weave an eight-strand belt on DYI Instructables:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Bra...ver-under-over-Right-under-over-under-and-ov/

I but strands of canvas ¾” wide. The length was about 240-inches long. I needed a 60-inch belt. I doubled this length, not knowing how much of each strand would be taken up in the weaving. Then, this tutorial uses four strands that are doubled, so…120-inches times 2 equals 240-inches. I folded each strand into thirds, then sewed them together. One side of the raw edge was “inside” these folds. The other raw edge was visible. I needed to de-fray this exposed raw edge. Also, when weaving this belt, I made sure the raw edge was going to fall on the “inside” of the belt.
24 Belt preparing strips.jpg

Sorry for the blurry picture. Each strand was looped through a 1 ½-inch silver colored, square belt buckle (from a leather craft store).
25 Belt, beginning braid.jpg

The braiding:
26 Belt Braiding.jpg
From the cutting of the canvas to the finished braid took me about 6 hours.

Braiding is done:
27 Belt not dyed.jpg

The first belt I made (pictured earlier) was made from canvas that had been dyed a dark brown. I liked the belt, but it was really too dark. So, I decided to make another belt. This new belt was painted with fabric paint, and the finished project:
28 Belt Painted.JPG 29 Belt finished.JPG

The colors in the picture are off a bit. It’s a darker brown than it appears. However, in the near future, I will tweak this costume a bit, and will add some gray to the belt to get it closer to the film color.

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The Bag:

Gandalf’s bag is a simple bag made of a canvas (same fabric I used for the belt). It has a fold over top, and a braided strap (this time a wider strand and a three-braided strap, as compared to the belt…but essentially followed the same method).

Here is a design picture:
30 Bag development.jpg

Here is the finished bag, undyed. The bag was double thickness canvas with the back panel longer than the front, so that it could fold over for a simple closure. The strap is sewed to the inside of the top flap. The bag and strap were dyed a medium gray (Charcoal Gray (PR41) from Dharma Trading.
31 Gandalf bag undyed.jpg

The embroidery around the edge of the flap used regular hemp rope, that was dyed a dark brown. I cut the edge of one end of the hemp to a point, then sealed it with Super Glue (to make it stiff and so it would act as a needle when sewing around the border). I used an awl to punch holes at the proper interval to achieve the design. If memory serves, I punched two wholes ¼-inch apart, then skipped 3/8-inch, then made the next two holes.
32 Bag embroidery.jpg

Finally, the bad was “aged” by airbrushing on “dirty” colored paints. Sorry for the small picture, but this gives an idea of how it looked when done.
33 Bag finished.jpg

Oh…and the bag, being functional, is a great place for the keys and cell phone…and other stuff of necessity!

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The Pants:

Research revealed that the general consensus believes that Gandalf’s pants are floor length culottes. The pants are really not visible except when walking and riding Shadowfax. So…I chose to rip apart a pair of scrub pants and use those as a pattern. I merely made them EXTRA wide, then gathered them back to the original pattern size, and sewed them together, with a draw string. The scrub pants were taken apart at the inside leg/crotch/front/back seam. The outer side seams were left intact. Here is the basic pattern (which shows the gathering).
34 Pants Pattern.jpg

And here is the finished mock up, followed by the finished pants:
35 Pants text.jpg 36 Gandalf Pants finished.jpg

The bottom hem of the pants was achieved in the same way as the sleeves and bottom help of the main tunic.
 

SithariRog

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The Hat:

Believe it or not, but there was a tutorial on “how to make a Gandalf hat” on Youtube!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxKUhQnEQDg

I, basically, used this tutorial. But there were a couple of things I changed.
-Obvously, I needed to resize things to fit my head (with hair).
-I made a mock up, which will be pictured shortly, and felt the slope of the hat wasn’t enough, so I made the final hat slope more.
-I used heavy buckram (two sheets) for the brim, because I thought the tutorial version was too floppy.

First, I did an overlay composite picture of me and Gandalf to get the slope right:
37 Hat pattern.jpg

Then…with hair in place, I made the brim pattern:
View attachment 38 Hat Brim Development.jpg
The poster paper was a tad floppy, so the brim front looked a little weird at this point.

The mock up, using one sheet of buckram, and the same flannel sheets as before:
39 Hat Mock up 1.jpg

And the mock up…note how floppy this brim is. It also looks a little small. I altered the pattern, and ultimately used two layers of heavy buckram.
40 Hat Mock up 2.jpg

And the final hat, before and after shaping:
42 Hat slope and shaping.jpg

And here is all of the soft parts (minus the mittens):

41 GtG Soft Parts.jpg
The scarf was ordered from a company in New Zealand, and is an “approved” prop from the film (or based on the film’s scarf). The staff was ordered from United Cutlery (through Amazon) and is a REALLY nice prop…but rather heavy. I’ll probably make one, eventually, that will weight considerably less…and probably with a light.

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The Mittens:

Gandalf’s mittens were knitted, something I have no current desire to do…so I went looking for a wool fabric that gave a reasonable look for completeness. First up the design:
Mitt Design.jpg

The design is fairly simple. A top and bottom, sewed together, with a hem around the finger, and no hem around the thumb. Top is the mock up, bottom is the final mittens:
View attachment 43 Mit mock up and final.jpg

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Hooded Cloak / Outer Robe

Gandalf’s hooded cloak is really an open front, hooded poncho. The design is simple. If I ever make this component, I’ll take a rectangular piece of fabric, but a hole for the head, open the front, hem the edges and add a pointy hood.

I didn’t make hooded cloak for a few reason:
-I haven’t found a suitable fabric yet.
-Gandalf doesn’t wear the hooded cloak much. Most scenes are without.
-It’s bitching hot in Alabama, and a layer of thick wool on top of everything else would be way too not for comfort, except maybe in January.

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The Pipe:
While seen less than the hooded cloak, this was an easy prop to make, so…I made it. Total time took about 4 hours from design to finished, except for staining and varnishing.

Gandalf’s pipe is a plain pipe with two tones of wood. The tobacco well is darker than the mouth piece. I used pine for the tobacco well, and an oak dowel for the mouth piece. They were stained with Special Walnut, then varnished. This pipe is not functional.

A hunk of pine and a design:
44 Pipe Design.jpg

I drew the design onto a piece of pine. While my drill press allowed for angles and such, I found it easier to design the angles into the block of wood and kept the drill press in its original position (where the drill is perpendicular to the plane of the drill press table).
45 Pipe Design 2.jpg

The holes do match up, but it wasn’t really necessary…being non functional:
46 Pipe drilling.jpg

Sanding and shaping, with the mouth piece being fitted for angle:
47 Pine shaping and assembly.jpg

And the final prop (minus the varnish):
48 Pipe final.jpg
-To get the “bend” in the mouth piece, I sanded on the top ends, then on the under middle…if that made sense. This gave a pseudo bend to the mouth piece. I chose those method, because I didn’t have time to wet, steam and bend the dowel.

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The Hair:

Well…I ordered this hair set from a decent wig/costume site. It’s not bad. Well…it’s awful for a Gandalf costume”. Having said that…for the money (under $125), this wig and beard/mustache set isn’t bad for Gandalf. Maybe one of these days, if I were to either decide to learn to make my own…or were to decide to spend many hundreds of dollars for a movie quality set, I’ll upgrade. Until then, this set will do. My problems with this set?
-The main hair is too wavy. Also, this wig is a pull on wig, and not a lace wig. So, there is no widow’s peak. I don’t mind that so much, because…what’s Gandalf without the hat, right?
-The mustache is stiff and doesn’t really match the other “hair”.
***the wig and mustache are synthetic**
-The beard…well, the beard is a glue-on lace beard from real/human hair. The wig is pretty darned nice, actually.

49 Hair.jpg

And a word on the shoes…
Gandalf probably wears a dark brown boot. I really didn’t want to invest in something that really isn’t seen. So, I work my dark brown suede Rockports, that I’ve had for decades. They look “right” and have been broken in…and therefore are comfortable.
 

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SithariRog

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The final costume:

50 Final Costume.jpg

I actually won a costume contest at the “Master” level during a local sci-fi/fantasy con. Pretty cool, huh?

51 Final Costume 2.jpg


Final word: This was a really fun costume to make. It’s ridiculously comfortable to wear (except for perhaps all the hair, but even that’s not so bad). This wasn’t one of my more usual detailed tutorials, so…if anyone has any questions on how I did something, please let me know.

What's next for Gandalf? Well...I'd really like to age and dirty up the costume, as it appears in the films. I've got the acrylic paints and airbrush...but need to find time to do it. Maybe...before the next con ;) We'll see. Beyond that...I'd like to gray up the belt a bit, and maybe...get some knitted mittens and a better hair set.

Next project for myself (other than Emperor Palpatine…I’ll post this VERY detailed tutorial over on the Sith Lords Detachment forums) will be Professor Snape, complete with cartridge pleating on the academic robe. I’ll post that WIP/project here on the RPF forums. Until then….have fun!!!
 

SithariRog

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Well...actually...Gandalf the White will probably make it to my queue at some point. A friend of mine wants to do Saurman, and I told him I'd do the two costumes. But..I've got a bunch to finish first, before taking on those. the "whites" both have tons of embroidery, like, the fancy stuff. But if and when I do those costumes, I will definitely post here.
 

Aposstle

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This is amazing. Gandalf the grey is on my current to do list and I love how you’ve gone about yours. I’m struggling to work out how to attack the tunic and cloak and this walk through will definitely help! Couple questions if you don’t mind and when you have time... firstly, did you pattern all of the tunic and cloak and such yourself? I’m looking for stuff to use and adapt pattern wise but can’t find anything worth while. If you have anything you could recommend that would be amazing. I’d love to make one as good as yours! And secondly, did you end up finding a decent fabric for a cloak yet? I know this was a few years back. Anyway! Thanks in advance!
 

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SithariRog

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This is amazing. Gandalf the grey is on my current to do list and I love how you’ve gone about yours. I’m struggling to work out how to attack the tunic and cloak and this walk through will definitely help! Couple questions if you don’t mind and when you have time... firstly, did you pattern all of the tunic and cloak and such yourself? I’m looking for stuff to use and adapt pattern wise but can’t find anything worth while. If you have anything you could recommend that would be amazing. I’d love to make one as good as yours! And secondly, did you end up finding a decent fabric for a cloak yet? I know this was a few years back. Anyway! Thanks in advance!
 

SithariRog

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This is amazing. Gandalf the grey is on my current to do list and I love how you’ve gone about yours. I’m struggling to work out how to attack the tunic and cloak and this walk through will definitely help! Couple questions if you don’t mind and when you have time... firstly, did you pattern all of the tunic and cloak and such yourself? I’m looking for stuff to use and adapt pattern wise but can’t find anything worth while. If you have anything you could recommend that would be amazing. I’d love to make one as good as yours! And secondly, did you end up finding a decent fabric for a cloak yet? I know this was a few years back. Anyway! Thanks in advance!

Hi Simon!

I’ll reply here and in the thread so others can know the answers to your questions…

Sadly, I found no patterns for the Gandalf the Grey costume, although I came across a couple of WIP threads, that either had broken pic links or the costumer didn’t really follow through with completion of the project. I found a few decent threads and websites that had good pictures and some discussion on the various details. But in the end, I went with screen caps for my reference images and developed my own pattern. As I mentioned, I am somewhat known for my Jedi costumes and the tutorials I’ve written/posted on all aspects of that costume. After some study, I felt the Gandalf the Grey (GTG, from now on) could be assembled in a very similar fashion to the Jedi outer tunic…which consists of a back panel, two front panels (and a skirt, which is not part of the GTG costume). The only element that was “new” to me was the yoke. I ended up doing a few mock ups for the shape and size to fit my body. The yoke ended up being a double layer, with the outside being the hand-woven cotton (from Dharma Trading Co., which I also dyed gray) and a dyed osnaburg. The two pieces were sewn right sides (out sides) together, then inverted (bagged-out, some say) and the small opening used to bag it out was hand stitched. I’ll say, somewhat quickly…I had one back panel and two front panels that I sewed to the yoke. I used small seam allowances, and doubled up each stitch (because of the lose weave of the hand-woven cotton. The embroidery hid these stitches and also helped to finish the seam allowance that is on the inside. If I remember correctly, I sewed each pane onto the yoke so that it would hang correctly. This resulted in having to cut off a sizeable “triangular” shaped piece on the inside. At the time, my skills were not as advanced as they are now, and today, I’d figure out how to avoid that…even though it worked out well. As I do the Jedi costumes, the side seams were NOT sewn at that point, nor were the sleeves sewn closed (making sleeve tubes…probably like was the case with the frocks you made…meaning, you had the bodice completed and the finished sleeves were sewn to the bodice. This is not how Jedi robes (or at least mine) are assembled). The open sleeves were then sewn to the main robe, then the side seams of the robe and the sleeves were completed in one stitch (again, doubled because of the nature of the lose weave of the fabric).

Regarding the box pleats. Each front panel has 5 or 6 box pleats. The back panel has 10 or 12 box pleats. The number isn’t as important as having enough box pleats to fit your body. A very large person may have more, and a small person may have less. The box pleats are 2” in width. I calculated how wide each panel should be for my costume, then box pleated panels to the same width. The sleeves had 5 box pleats that are centered on the shoulder.

The front of the robe is fully open. I have a lace closure for the yoke area, then snaps sewn down the front to the belt. On the back, I split the back panel up to the belt, so that below the belt the robe appears to have four panels. This is only fleetingly seen in the films, but it is there. The box pleating makes the robe VERY full, and it almost acts like a dress that is only rarely seen when Gandalf is running. But yes, this does make it possible to “ride” a horse with this robe. Again, there are visible stitches doing it this way…that are ultimately covered with the embroidery.

As for the length of the panels? Well…I calculated how long they should be (including the 6-inch bottom hem), then I added at least a foot to the length of the fabric, with the intent to cut off the excess as I hemmed. This was true for the sleeves as well (since they too have about 6- inch hems).

One final thought, for now: I box pleated each panel and the sleeves first. This was difficult, because the lose hand woven cotton did not allow for pins to stay in place. I did use pins to do the initial box pleating, but ended up having to go back and hand baste each side of each pleat to stabilize it for construction. The pins were removed after the hand basting was done. Otherwise, the pins would easily fall out and end up in a hand or foot…both very painful. And lastly, before removing the basting, I sewed each pleat down at the belt level so the top of the robe would stay box pleated. The part of the robe below the belt hangs free. Does that stitch show? Yep, but with the belt, the scarf and bag, it’s practically invisible. I do not have an outer hooded cape/cloak, mostly because (1) I’ve not found a suitable fabric that I like and (2) it’s bitching hot in Alabama and while the bulk of the costume is rather comfortable and airy, due to the lose weave of the fabric, I don’t want to add a layer and end up dying of heat stroke. It’s bad enough with my head heating up with all that hair and the hat.

Hope this helps. I think I covered all (or certainly most) of your questions. If you have any more questions, just fire away!

PS (For the main robe, I used a hand-woven cotton fabric from Dharma Trading Co. It comes "raw" or whitish, and I used their cotton dyes to dye the fabric grey before proceeding with any construction. And because of the dying, the fabric ends up shrinking, so...this make the final product washable, which is very nice...though I'd recommend a delicate cycle. The fabric is still available, and the link is:
And...ended up using around 24 yards in the main robe...remember, I said it shrinks when you wash/dye it...like...a LOT!)
 

Albie Caruana

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Thanks for spending the time to write this up! I am interested in making a version of Gandalf the Gray and reading your experience and thought process is incredibly helpful.
 

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Foolishmortal42

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Your costume turned out great. I have begun researching this costume for my next project. You mentioned some info on the front and back of the robe that I will copy and paste below. Would you be willing to post a few clear pictures of the front opening closed and the front opening with the hidden closures? Would you also be will to show the opening in the back? I am try to figure out how to include these features on my costume and the pictures would be a huge help. Thank you for your assistance.

”The front of the robe is fully open. I have a lace closure for the yoke area, then snaps sewn down the front to the belt. On the back, I split the back panel up to the belt, so that below the belt the robe appears to have four panels. This is only fleetingly seen in the films, but it is there. The box pleating makes the robe VERY full, and it almost acts like a dress that is only rarely seen when Gandalf is running. But yes, this does make it possible to “ride” a horse with this robe. Again, there are visible stitches doing it this way…that are ultimately covered with the embroidery.”
 

SithariRog

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Your costume turned out great. I have begun researching this costume for my next project. You mentioned some info on the front and back of the robe that I will copy and paste below. Would you be willing to post a few clear pictures of the front opening closed and the front opening with the hidden closures? Would you also be will to show the opening in the back? I am try to figure out how to include these features on my costume and the pictures would be a huge help. Thank you for your assistance.

”The front of the robe is fully open. I have a lace closure for the yoke area, then snaps sewn down the front to the belt. On the back, I split the back panel up to the belt, so that below the belt the robe appears to have four panels. This is only fleetingly seen in the films, but it is there. The box pleating makes the robe VERY full, and it almost acts like a dress that is only rarely seen when Gandalf is running. But yes, this does make it possible to “ride” a horse with this robe. Again, there are visible stitches doing it this way…that are ultimately covered with the embroidery.”
Oh wow, sorry...I just saw your post. Yes, I will make some pictures and post them up soon. So, stay tuned.
 

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