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I wonder if he will be offered up for Dany's political marriage "choice"
Also that look at the end between Sansa and Littlefinger was a little confusing. He smug smile definitely turned suddenly after looking at Littlefinger. Was it because of possible regret that she lost out to Jon, or was it because she knows Littlefinger could screw things up for Jon by having the Vale turn on the north?
Also it was nice to have the Frey pie show up, even if not by the same group. I wonder if that's how it will play out in the books. I doubt Arya will bake a pie for him, but I wonder if she will be the one to kill him vs the Brotherhood or the Northern Conspirators.
In addition, will it really be so easy for Dany just landing in Dorne? Euron is still out there and while I don't think the show has covered it, he got the "special" horn. I could see her getting ambushed at sea by Euron's fleet
PotionMistress
Sr Member
I think Marjorie DID have a plan, and I thought for sure it was written in code in the rose drawing she slipped to Lady Olenna. I was so dissappointed to she was killed. But I'm guessing that she had urged her grandmother to align the Tyrells with Dorne and that is why Olenna went there to parley.
Westies14
Master Member
I think she must have simply been telling Olenna that she wasn't nuts with that sketch, rather she was just playing the game as she'd always done. She was saying "I'll be fine, get to safety." After last night it seems apparent that she'd really flipped Tomlin; she was truly aligned with the High Scepter (I called him Sparrow last post - what's this dude's name?). Really disappointing!
Monkey67
Sr Member
no way would be consider to be married to dany. His daddy was the leader of the rebellion. Dany would take his head or fed him to the dragons.
Yeah their will be a navy battle at some point. Could get super crazy if someone took a cool kazoo with them. Too bad they won't be around long after it.
Little finger is always playing the game. He might lose a round, but always seems to a back up ready to go.
Riceball
Master Member
I strongly suspect that GRRM has forgotten about him too, he spends a fair amount at hinting at his ancestry and making it seem like he's important to the story somehow but then quickly forgets all about him after Arya escapes from the Lannisters. Granted he was never a PoV character but he did seem important at the time only for us to never even get a mention of him after Arya left his company, not even a few words about what happened to him, or, for that matter, the great hunt for all of Robert's ******* children.
Not Gendry, Willas.
Olenna might try to marry him off to Dany for alliance purposes. Although are there any really good suitors for political alliances at this point?
Quentyn never showed up in the show and we know what happened in the books. Dorne's got no one else of consequence
Jon Snow is now King of the North, and makes the most potential sense politically, but would he concede to marrying his aunt (assuming he learns of his true heritage) or will that wind up like Luke having the hots for Leia. Also would Dany really agree to essentially marry someone who represents a split from the seven kingdoms being called King of the North?
Littlefinger could potentially make a move, although I would think Tyrion would strongly advise against that one
Robert Arryn?
Who else is there?
Solo4114
Master Member
Actually, two things.
1. Gendry does make another appearance in A Feast for Crows, when he's working at the Inn at the Crossroads and is affiliated with the Brotherhood. Brienne runs into him, I think.
2. Edric Storm is one of Robert's noble bastards who disappears. On the show, he was merged with Gendry, since they basically occupy a similar position. He escapes from Melisadre after Davos lets him go. Then, if memory serves, he completely disappears from the story. He's the one with the backstory about Robert banging some noble lady at a banquet or whatever, but it's only really relevant because he's one of Robert's bastards (along with Mya Stone in the Vale). I think the reaction to "ooh, Edric Storm has noble blood!" is more only relevant to the characters in the story because of the scandal associated with his birth. Otherwise, I don't see his lineage ever having come into play.
That said, I do think that GRRM revels in worldbuilding. The sheer volume of backstory and history for the Seven Kingdoms and most of Essos is staggering. While some of it has undoubtedly been expanded upon by other authors in the World of Ice and Fire book, Martin himself has included a fair bit of stuff. In a way, I appreciate this because it makes the world itself that he's created feel more real. The story exists beyond these characters in the books that we follow. Moreover, the characters all have motivations and attitudes and beliefs which are directly tied to the world and its history. All of that is to the good.
But as has been said here before, Martin does tend to get lost in his garden from time to time and forget about the azaleas that he showed us a while back, because he's grown enamored of chrysanthemums instead.
1. Gendry does make another appearance in A Feast for Crows, when he's working at the Inn at the Crossroads and is affiliated with the Brotherhood. Brienne runs into him, I think.
2. Edric Storm is one of Robert's noble bastards who disappears. On the show, he was merged with Gendry, since they basically occupy a similar position. He escapes from Melisadre after Davos lets him go. Then, if memory serves, he completely disappears from the story. He's the one with the backstory about Robert banging some noble lady at a banquet or whatever, but it's only really relevant because he's one of Robert's bastards (along with Mya Stone in the Vale). I think the reaction to "ooh, Edric Storm has noble blood!" is more only relevant to the characters in the story because of the scandal associated with his birth. Otherwise, I don't see his lineage ever having come into play.
That said, I do think that GRRM revels in worldbuilding. The sheer volume of backstory and history for the Seven Kingdoms and most of Essos is staggering. While some of it has undoubtedly been expanded upon by other authors in the World of Ice and Fire book, Martin himself has included a fair bit of stuff. In a way, I appreciate this because it makes the world itself that he's created feel more real. The story exists beyond these characters in the books that we follow. Moreover, the characters all have motivations and attitudes and beliefs which are directly tied to the world and its history. All of that is to the good.
But as has been said here before, Martin does tend to get lost in his garden from time to time and forget about the azaleas that he showed us a while back, because he's grown enamored of chrysanthemums instead.
firesprite
Master Member
Willas never existed in the show as far as I can remember. She was promised a marriage to Loras which lead to her embarrassingly making cow-eyes at a young man who would have far preferred the company of any of her brothers.
The scandal around Edric's conception is that Robert boned the sister of the bride on Stannis and his bride's marital bed during the wedding banquet. Being the awesomely educated people, people think that this led to Shireen contracting grey scale because the marriage bed where she was conceived had been soiled by Robert's base lusts.
Monkey67
Sr Member
What about Dickon Tarly, if he is the heir to that house since Sam seems to be disowned. It's a powerful house army wise. So they could be in hopper of landing one of the chicks. I could see Bran and lady mormont hooking up or lady mormont and the vale kid ( he really needs a strong women). Idk, more ppl just need to die and help solve other problems.
asalaw
Master Member
A quick list of historical and artistic references from last night's episode:
1. The gunpowder plot by Guy Fawkes (successful this time)
2. Hitler's Night of the Long Knives
3. The Godfather -- the baptism/mass murder sequence (right down to the organ music)
4. The Hindenburg (the moment when the bomb blows up in George C. Scott's face as it does in Lancel's)
Am I missing any?
1. The gunpowder plot by Guy Fawkes (successful this time)
2. Hitler's Night of the Long Knives
3. The Godfather -- the baptism/mass murder sequence (right down to the organ music)
4. The Hindenburg (the moment when the bomb blows up in George C. Scott's face as it does in Lancel's)
Am I missing any?
matty matt
Sr Member
Did you guys notice the chandelier things in the big library are the same rotating orb things in the opening credits?
firesprite
Master Member
YES! I was so excited I literally bounced in my seat, pointed at the screen and squealed "The astrolab!"
Riceball
Master Member
I think that Bran is going to end up with Meera Reed, it's sort of hinted at and it would help further cement the close ties between House Stark and House Reed, plus, even though Bran is a true born Stark I don't see him becoming Lord of Winterfell so he'd be more free to marry someone of his choosing. Now, Robyn and Lady Mormont might be a possibility, but even though they're much closer in age I don't really see this happening, if only for the fact that it doesn't particularly benefit the Vale and House Mormont being so closely tied to the Starks don't really need the power of prestige that a marriage to the Lord of the Vale would bring.
SmilingOtter
Master Member
I can just hear her, completely deadpan. "I like Robyn Arryn. He makes me laugh."
:lol
:lol
Marv
Sr Member
Think it was something along the lines of if all goes to plan he will be king protect him. - So is he the brother of the mother of dragons?1. I do so love being right.But really, it's been heavily hinted at for a while. What I'd love to get is a breakdown by lip-readers of what Lyanna actually says to Ned that we couldn't hear.
