I kind of lost that likable aspect the moment he tossed the leaches into the fire. Geoffrey? Sure. Balon Greyjoy? Absolutely. Rob Stark? Ugh. That's just dumb. He seriously needs that "power resides" riddle lesson.
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I kind of lost that likable aspect the moment he tossed the leaches into the fire. Geoffrey? Sure. Balon Greyjoy? Absolutely. Rob Stark? Ugh. That's just dumb. He seriously needs that "power resides" riddle lesson.
Solo4114
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Yeah, but I mean in comparison to the books. In the books, that's ALL he is: the guy tossing leeches in the fire. He's grim, humorless, and cold. Pretty much all the time. The show is making him a little more complex. He's still a hardass, but he's a hardass who has moments where you could almost see a likeable guy stuck in there somewhere.
For that I agree. That moment with his wife certainly showed how much this fire god stuff was starting to be a bit too much. And you can clearly tell he wants to be a father to his daughter, but he's just totally incapable of being one.
yeah, I think is is coming off better in the show than in the books as far as humanizing him a bit.
As far as him naming Robb Stark, it is part of his "doing what is right" motto. Regardless of reasons or personal feelings for the Starks, Robb is in open rebellion to the Iron Throne, no different than Balon Greyjoy or Renly. They have all declared themselves kings and Stannis has a job to do.
As far as him naming Robb Stark, it is part of his "doing what is right" motto. Regardless of reasons or personal feelings for the Starks, Robb is in open rebellion to the Iron Throne, no different than Balon Greyjoy or Renly. They have all declared themselves kings and Stannis has a job to do.
crabra comander
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Should've said Daenarys name:facepalm
Guess he doesn't know. And what's up with Fabio cutting off his partners heads?
Guess he doesn't know. And what's up with Fabio cutting off his partners heads?
jlee562
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He did it all for the nookie.
Solo4114
Master Member
Happens in the book pretty much the same way. Basically what you saw on the screen is pretty much the explanation we've gotten. There are a number of figures in the books who proclaim their love for Daenarys. Up through book 3, some have betrayed her, some have remained loyal. Some of the book characters appear in the show, some don't.
Anyway, I'd expect that they'll reveal what his deal is later on, but my recollection is that what you saw is what we got in the books. Not much more to it than that. I find this makes him....suspect.
crabra comander
Master Member
well, in the books like most Tyroshi he was a bit flamboyant, he had blue eyes a three-pronged beard dyed blue, and a mustache painted gold :confused
They toned him down a bit in the TV show
But yeah, the motive, was never fleshed out, other than "all for the nookie". I'd agree he is suspect (could he be a faceless man trying to get into her inner circle?)
msleeper
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In an unrelated note, I've always really liked this outfit that Cersei wears.
Not that I'm a book purist or anything, but the scene with Dany and the sellsword captains definitely deviated from the books. Not so much that it changed the tone of the story, but it could have significance later on considering Mero and Daario were never in the same sellsword company and who comes along later to join the Second Sons.
Solo4114
Master Member
They've toned down a lot of the characters from the books to the show. The Bloody Mummers, for example. I see a lot of the more fanciful stuff being ignored in favor of a more grounded approach to the characters. The core remains the same (e.g. Locke is still just as nasty as Vargo), but without some of the more "out there" aspects.
I'd forgotten about that, but I think that's another thing the show is doing a lot of: Condensing characters and concepts and moments into essentials. For example, the thing with Edric vs. Gendry. In the books, my understanding is that Gendry just disappears at the Inn or joins the Brotherhood or something, and that's that. Last you see of him. Then we shift to Edric at Dragonstone and what Stannis wants to do with him. The only difference between Gendry and Edric from a plot perspective is one is lowborn and the other is a noble-born *******. You can combine these characters and save people having to deal with yet another of Robert's illegitimate male children. So, if the Storm Crows vs. Second Sons thing doesn't end up being relevant, just combine them into a single merc company and have done with it.
I can see why they consolidated the things they did. So far, they've all made sense and they have done a pretty good job of keeping the story on pace without really missing anything too significant.
Also I think its easier for most of the target audience to accept the toning down of some characters from a visual standpoint. I can see the investors thinking to themselves, do we want the ladies swooning over a Fabio type or some guy parading around with blue hair and a gold mustache?
They've done a awesome job so far at keeping a coherent style to the show and not getting mired in too many minor details. That's always the toughest thing to balance when adapting a book for movies or TV. They have also been really good at creating scenes which kind of define character's personality and relationships that took several chapters (or books) to do, especially for those characters who did not get POVs. Like in the first season, some of the scenes with Cersei and Robert for example
Also I think its easier for most of the target audience to accept the toning down of some characters from a visual standpoint. I can see the investors thinking to themselves, do we want the ladies swooning over a Fabio type or some guy parading around with blue hair and a gold mustache?
They've done a awesome job so far at keeping a coherent style to the show and not getting mired in too many minor details. That's always the toughest thing to balance when adapting a book for movies or TV. They have also been really good at creating scenes which kind of define character's personality and relationships that took several chapters (or books) to do, especially for those characters who did not get POVs. Like in the first season, some of the scenes with Cersei and Robert for example
Solo4114
Master Member
Agreed. they've done a bang-up job overall. I forgive the lack of slavish detail when it's all being done in a largely coherent and consistent way. And yeah, the new scenes were done especially well, to the point where many times I have to think back and say "Wait...was that in the book? I think it might've been...but I can't remember...." That, to me, speaks to how seamlessly the new scenes integrate in the overall story. They've just done an excellent job of taking the literary and adapting it into television.
Game Of Thrones Facebook Recap Season 3 Episode 8 | Happy Place
Heh, I've actually started looking forward to these, they're pretty hilarious.
Heh, I've actually started looking forward to these, they're pretty hilarious.
That's a good one
I've been looking forward as well. Would love to see them done for all the seasons
I knew it sounded familiar, but couldnt remember why. Surprised no one at the Westeros.org forums caught that.
