Future Floor Wax??

[Gilmortar]

So I'm doing a helmet that requires the lens to be a shimmering gold lense, to that of the Astronauts helmet visors.

In a similar thread, I saw someone say to mix a gold element with future floor wax, and spray it onto the visor.

Now I'm wanting to use this on a visor that I will be looking through. Wearing with a costume. Is this stuff see through once you spray it on?

Anyone else used this stuff?

 

[rayra]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(LittleOleBountyHunter @ Nov 22 2006, 01:00 AM) [snapback]1363120[/snapback]</div>

So I'm doing a helmet that requires the lens to be a shimmering gold lense, to that of the Astronauts helmet visors.

In a similar thread, I saw someone say to mix a gold element with future floor wax, and spray it onto the visor.

Now I'm wanting to use this on a visor that I will be looking through. Wearing with a costume. Is this stuff see through once you spray it on?

Anyone else used this stuff?
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Future is just clear acrylic.
You could get the same effect you are looking for just by misting your gold paint onto the INSIDE of your lenses. Let the ouside of the lenses themselves provide the gloss.

I once used this technique to pain the cockpit windows of a F-117 scale kit, worked quite well. Sorry, don't have any pics. Just practice first on some pieces of clear acetate or plex to get your misting technique down.


EDIT - this was done with an airbrush, not a rattle-can. Much better degree of control.

 

[Gilmortar]

Well, im still needing to see through the visor. Its for a Master Chief helmet lens.

 

[Tim Allen]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(LittleOleBountyHunter @ Nov 21 2006, 09:55 PM) [snapback]1363330[/snapback]</div>

Well, im still needing to see through the visor. Its for a Master Chief helmet lens.
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Auto tint places probable can sell you sheets of glossy gold tint.

 

[Gigatron]

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Well, im still needing to see through the visor. Its for a Master Chief helmet lens.
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Auto tint places probable can sell you sheets of glossy gold tint.
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Unfortunately, sheet tint does not like curves at all. the only way around that is to cut it into very thin strips OR take it to a tint shop and let them spray the tint on (a very costly alternative).

The only cheap way is going to be by applying various shades of orange and yellow stained glass tint. It won't look like true gold, but it'll be damn close. Finish it off with a layer of FFW for a high gloss finish and to make it scratch resistant.

-Fred

 

[David Moeller]

Just an idea, but sunglasses are processed to have that feature, maybe do some research about what that process is. Talk to "Lens Crafters" I think they tint the lenses on site, but may know if it could be done.

The movie prop makers don't specialize in that stuff, a lot of it is sent out, so I am sure with a little looking around you may find an answer, but it may not be cheep.

-Dave

 

[minieffects]

The process that is used for what you are talking about is called vacum metalizing. Its not cheap but you might find a vendor who will give you a break.

here is a company that can give you some info.
http://www.muellercorp.com/



The process that is used for what you are talking about is called vacum metalizing. Its not cheap but you might find a vendor who will give you a break.

here is a company that can give you some info.
http://www.muellercorp.com/

more listings
http://www.thomasnet.com/products/vacuum-m...90001009-1.html

Here is an example of lens material from Oakly that was injection molded lexan and then coated using this process.

 

[minieffects]

The process is called flash or mirror coating. Here is one company that does this for telescopes.
http://www.spectrum-coatings.com/Spectrum-...gs-Coatings.htm

here is another
http://www.nacl.com/rx/src.php
and another
http://www.evaporatedcoatings.com/800p.htm

explanation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirrorshade_sunglasses

its not a cheap process.

Here is an example of lens material from Oakly that was injection molded lexan and then coated using this process. [attachmentid=11187]

 

[Miniaturizer Ray]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Gigatron @ Nov 22 2006, 01:47 PM) [snapback]1363482[/snapback]</div>

The only cheap way is going to be by applying various shades of orange and yellow stained glass tint. It won't look like true gold, but it'll be damn close. Finish it off with a layer of FFW for a high gloss finish and to make it scratch resistant.

-Fred
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Pebeo Vitrail glass paint comes in gold. I did a quick google and it seems that most US suppliers don't carry it in gold or silver for some reason, but you could contact Pebeo and find out if there are any that do. Vitrail is very transparent, though, so you might still be able to see into the visor from the outside.

Alternatively, I wonder if Liquid Leaf might work.

I think rayra is right though - you ought to be able to mist on gold paint with an airbrush and still see out.

 

[rayra]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(LittleOleBountyHunter @ Nov 22 2006, 05:55 AM) [snapback]1363330[/snapback]</div>

Well, im still needing to see through the visor. Its for a Master Chief helmet lens.
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You can still see through it. Notice the use of the word 'mist'.

And the tint-film suggestion won't work on the compound curves of a lens, unless the curve is in one dimension only, or very, very shallow.

 

[DL 44 Blaster]

What can be used to clean up "Future Floor wax" from use in an airbrush or thin it out??

 

[Gigatron]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DL 44 Blaster @ Nov 28 2006, 09:42 PM) [snapback]1367174[/snapback]</div>

What can be used to clean up "Future Floor wax" from use in an airbrush or thin it out??
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Regular Windex to clean the brush. For thinning out though, I'm not sure. It's pretty thin to begin with.

-Fred

 

[DL 44 Blaster]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DL 44 Blaster @ Nov 28 2006, 09:42 PM) [snapback]1367174[/snapback]

What can be used to clean up "Future Floor wax" from use in an airbrush or thin it out??
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Regular Windex to clean the brush. For thinning out though, I'm not sure. It's pretty thin to begin with.

-Fred
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Cool...I was more interested in cleanup since I thought it was rather thin also. Thanks. :thumbsup