Found!!! Obi ANH 'Gear'!!!

I can't figure it out. But here's a better pic.

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BTW: if anyone has the full high res pic, (non-frankenstein version) would you please PM me.

thanks,

-G
 
Is it possible any part of this 'gear' (flash hider) assembly could've been used to attach the emitter? I know its probably a long shot but that piece with the second ring of holes looks too good to be true... ;)

This is another awesome discovery the only thing I'm not liking about this, or the emitter discovery for that matter, is that 1) the pieces all have to be rare 2) no replicas yet... CHOP CHOP... ;) :lol

Congrats. :D
 
Now, now, let's not reinvent the wheel. It's already well established that it's a lawn mower idler pulley. Let's focus our efforts on things not already known, hmm?

;)

Very well done. Again..
 
I too thought that...and laughed hard when I saw your posting :lol

Originally posted by Killdozer@Oct 20 2005, 12:32 PM
:lol
I just watched Serafino's long, long photo scroll up the screen like the freaking Star Destroyer...
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I loved Force Commander's Composite saber too... I've often thought about something simillar, whenever I see a toy Grenade...

Just because , here's an enlargement of Franz Bolo's 'gear' pic.

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And thank you G-Force for that closeup of the wire. I'm really convinced now...

I'd also love a copy of the high rez pic if anyone was so inclined...I had it once...but have lost it it seems...

Anyway...I know there's nothing I can really do constructive at this point...but like the rest of us, I love this saber...and keep coming back to these threads...

It's just so exciting...
:D :love B)
 
would it be possible to find these things at like a millitary surplus store?

(im sure not)

but we have a millitary place in town, that sold lots of old random stuff, demilitarized hand grenades, etc.

they also had like german patches helmets etc.

im just saying is it POSSIBLE?

like if we all went to all the places they might possibly be, maybe somebody might hit paydirt?

im kinda thinking (unintelligently) out loud, but i was just wondering, what might be some places to check?

traveling gunshows etc.

i know it is probably impossible, just thought id ask.
 
I would think the best place to check would be aircraft scrapyards (especially in England). The ANM2 saw action on a lot of different planes, but I don't know if they scavenge pieces off them before decomissioning them.

I'd be interested as well, in knowing (or at least having an idea) where to look. The internet doesn't seem to be the best place :lol.

-Fred
 
This whole thing of whether the cotter pin was used to hold the gear in place is an interesting problem.

Perhaps the double hole was drilled in order to allow the cotter pin to pass at an angle into the clamp--as I think it would have to in order to work at all. It would be interesting to see a high-res version of the end view, to see more clearly whether the 2nd 'wire' goes into a double hole or no.

Man that saber must have been very rattley though...
 
I've been comparing different shots of the saber...and uh...
You know what I'm NOT seeing?

The wire should be visable here...

Could we be talking about 2 different sabers altogether?
V.1 and V.2?

wirecompare7hv.jpg
 
A bit of conjecture....

The pic on the right is the "complete" sabre, with the full transistor/washer combination on both.

The pic on the left is the somewhat later, now missing a few bits, version that was documented and shown in Chronicles.

Is it possible the wire is another late addition done by the props people to keep the clamp better positioned?
 
Originally posted by Gigatron@Oct 22 2005, 08:34 PM
I would think the best place to check would be aircraft scrapyards (especially in England).  The ANM2 saw action on a lot of different planes, but I don't know if they scavenge pieces off them before decomissioning them.

I'd be interested as well, in knowing (or at least having an idea) where to look.  The internet doesn't seem to be the best place :lol.

-Fred
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I wouldn't think that any gun parts would have been scrapped in a junkyard. There's usually more attention to weapons than there is scraps.

If anything, the Military would have decommisioned the weapons and cut them up first and melted them, or have them in a storage facility somewhere.

I think most of the people that had them on the internet have all been flooded with calls and are wising up to there worth. So much for keeping things organized. :rolleyes

FB
 
Originally posted by Sporak@Oct 23 2005, 02:52 AM


Could we be talking about 2 different sabers altogether?
V.1 and V.2?


I highly doubt they made two hero sabers, the people that built these things probably had no idea what the parts they were using were. They probably just had boxes and boxes of 'junk' that they mixed and matched parts from.
 
Actually, I would be extreamly suprised if they didn't make more then one hero lightsaber. Expecially since part of the film was shot in Tunisia. Just think, the cast crew go out, set up, begin to shoot in 100 degree heat, and wait. Where is OWK's lightsaber? They stop shooting, loose 100,000 dollars for the day. This is how movie companies think. They would never have one prop, it would be too risky. Just like they never make one costume. Too risky. If you loose something like that it holds up production and costs the studios a whole lot of money. I remeber Kevin Smith told me that when he wanted to use his old coat that he wore in Clerks for Dogma, he was told that the costume department had to have a minimum of four copies of the coat available, in case something happened to the original. (So as a consequence, he now has four copies, plus a miniture version that fits a monkey, totaling upwards of eight thousand dollars of a coat that when purchased cost him $20.00) That's just the way movies work, they need to be prepared.

However, that does not mean that these two pictures cannot have been of the same prop.

Dan Stokes
DDStokes@aol.com
 
Think of this...
Handwheels come in pairs...
The turret guns were 4?
And 8 Emitter pipes?

Those very parts we are finding hard to come by, they had access to multiples at the time. Why not make at least 2 hero sabers...

Another thing that bugs me is that I can't find any matching markings on these two sabers...even on the clamp, which is where you'd expect it.

I sure wish there was a high def pic of the one on his belt.

If there are 2 different sabers, we might call them "As worn By" and the "Chronicles Version".
 
Originally posted by oldken@Oct 22 2005, 08:03 PM
would it be possible to find these things at like a millitary surplus store?

(im sure not)

but we have a millitary place in town, that sold lots of old random stuff, demilitarized hand grenades, etc.

they also had like german patches helmets etc.

im just saying is it POSSIBLE?

like if we all went to all the places they might possibly be, maybe somebody might hit paydirt?

im kinda thinking (unintelligently) out loud, but i was just wondering, what might be some places to check?

traveling gunshows etc.

i know it is probably impossible, just thought id ask.
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I went to an army surplus store over the weekend supposed to be the lagest in the country, didnt see any gears there.
 
Sporak, although you raise an interesting question about the 'wire', I don't think the 'Obituary' photo is clear enough to warrant drawing any conclusions. The wire is partly under the clamp and it's just possible that reflection patterns are causing it to seem not to be there. There may also have been paint on part of it at one point, which would make it vanish against the dark gear.

Again, it's an interesting question, but I'd call it an open one.

As for not seeing matching markings on the Chronicles and 'Obituary' saber--I do see them over by the transistors, but again, the whole issue is questionable because of the lack of resolution.

Whatever our assumptions about "film production", we don't have specific information on how Elstree/Lucas productions worked on this issue at that time, so IMO until or unless specific evidence arises that there was more than one 'hero', we should assume there was only one.
 
This thread was truly a great read from start to finish. It had drama and promise, then the spectre of potential failure cropped up followed by a resurrection ending in a perfect finish. This isn't prop making, it's a high-adventure tale.

As a former F/X and prop guy, I can say that I have often walked into an airplane or hardware surplus yard and just browsed until I found stuff that was the correct diameter.

I have NO clue how the sabers were built, but that was always a pretty standard procedure for us. Just dig and search for stuff that fits. You don't want to take extra time to put something on the lathe or make special parts if you can help it.
 
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