Force awakens Star Destroyer

I'm thinking About starting on a model of the new star destroyer from the new trailer

I just can't figure out how the new nose goes together any ideas ?

You can see quite a lot of detail if you lighten this screen grabs ...
Cheers

Steve

 

To me it looks like a large bottom hull with other star destroyer hull layers stacked on top... almost like it could separate into several SD's - how cool would that be .

The nose/tip looks like a ramming prod or something like that. A vertical "whatsit" that wraps top to bottom across the front like a fin or something.

But really I'm just guessing

Jedi Dade

 

something Like this :




Yes I know its crude inaccurate blah blah... the red part would be how I think it attaches based on the little info we've seen.

Jedi Dade

 

the one thing that strikes me about this ship is that the sides of the top and bottom seem to be parallel. But that doesn't make sense if the bottom sticks out that much further.

So my belief is that the top isn't a full triangle. I think it stops flat (with a pointy bit on each side)

So that if you look from the top down, the trangle shape looks like this:

 

I drew that pic fast and dirty... I actually think that is "stepped and undercut". Like the top half could separate from the bottom and the top would be similar to the OT SD's.

I didn't take the time in the doodle to depict that as I was focused on trying to explain my theory of "what is the front of this".

Jedi Dade

 

kinda like this... again just a thought that I think it looks like it "could" do...



What do you think? I think it would be totally cool to have that entire giant lower half be essentially a shield that protects the primary ship from planetary assault... How cool would a scene by to have the planet blast the holy heck out of an SD just to have the bottom detach and the SD keep fighting... Oh baby thumbsup:cheers. I know I'd LOVE to see that. We probably wont - but how cool would that be?

Jedi Dade

 

As the first post mentioned... I adjusted the brightness and contrast of a screen cap from the trailer... here is the result:



glad I did this - can see a TON more detail - and my detachable upper SD is still viable

Jedi Dade

 

The thing about that is that if the upper triangle were shorter, then the sides would not be parallel. And now that I see more detail, I'm gonna stick to my hypothesis.

When you see the port side of the upper half go back, you'll notice that it stops and goes perpendicular to the ship. As if it has that stubbed nose I put in my mspaint drawing

 

The great thing is - we'll eventually see . I've watched that little clip a bunch of times while taking the screen grab... and to me they looked stacked on top of each other. but you could be right .

But I think it goes something like this:


Jedi Dade

 

Ive done some playing with the picture and made it a little clearer and sharper you can see a lot more detail now

I think the top and bottom triangles are parallel but the top one steps short so in effect the brim trenches are equal

The front fin appears thin and there is some structure along the front and the sides creating a shelf along the main structure

Also there is now just one shield dome..

 

* that's impressive lightening... re-contrasting...

only one shield dome that we can see...

I'm still stickin' with my theory... because I want it to be true . I think that the angle of the camera is creating the illusion that the upper edge of the trench is running parallel. I say this because of where it "ends" in relation to far side. if we assume its symmetrical then that's quite a bit short on the far side for that trench. just sayin'

Jedi Dade

 

Wow! However (rut-row!) the row of 'rods' projecting from the port side edge (far edge) are not visible on the near side - so either they inadvertently left them off or it is an intentional asymmetry (why?)

Cool looking, but definitely way off from an SD (or a Tyr-shuttle... and what are those boxy looking things acting as escorts?)

Once again, ol' JJ is stomping on the "canon" almost like a dare (Abrams: "Oh, yeah? Well I dare you NOT to come see it, Fan-boi-ee!") I just don't understand why they have to mess with perfectly good concepts simply in the name of putting their "own" stamp on it... good gravy....) Perhaps there is *another* time-line altering wormhole event that does away with all that is from before (and got rid of the Yuuzhan Vong too, dang mouse-turds!)

Of course, it may simply be another 'newer model' of Star Destroyer-type warship and not an actual 're-imagining' of the old SD. Yes, I know - "stuff" happens, plus movie makers have issues with 'continuity'. And, yes, Disney paid a lot to 'own' the franchise so it is indeed their dime. Well, so be it... grumble, grumble.

R/ Robert

 

Hmm.... Could the bridge be "V" shaped? And could the new SD have Falcon like mandibles?

 

You worded that so much better than I.

That's exactly what I was trying to portray in that little diagram I did above. Because the top and bottom seem to be parallel.

 

I think there is a single structure protruding from the Middle front it starts thin and then widens out where it meets the main hull

Bridge appears to have two structures on its top , looking at the sides there appears to be little wings coming out at the front and then lots of spikes on the far side odd..

 

Yep, some 'wonky' is built in for sure... If I were the draughtsman I once was, we could have a projection analysis on the obvious 'centerline' points... such as the center of the front vertical 'plate' up along the center of the 'superstructure' features.
R/ Robert

 

What makes you think it would be a 're-imagination' of the classic ISD? The pictures of ISD and SSD wrecks in the desert prove they didn´t try to give old ships a new look, they even included them unchanged (well... damaged) as homage. This simply is a new class of ISD and I think it´s great there´s something new. There have been so many great fan designs (Ansel Hsiao...), why shouldn´t they introduce a new SD in a new film? There´s no 'stomping on the "canon"' when you see unchanged old designs - even an old X-Wing wreck - and new designs which simply portray newer vessels in the same film.

 

Just thinking of "J.J.'s" track record, ala Star Trek... not having seen the other images you mention, I broke out a little 'sweat'. Good news then! So evolutionary designs, not replacements (as in re-writing "history") that works for me. Thanks!
Regards, Robert
PS: Got any links to those images, or was it all in the trailer? Sorry, I just Googled it...

 

All in the second trailer. Some awesome pics I think...

 

Ah-ha! The 2nd trailer....!
R/ Robert

 

Just theorizing...but I could see in the post-Death Star universe, traditional Star Destroyers piggybacking onto a larger payload section strictly used for more TIEs/ground assault equipment/Stormtroopers...which could possibly then be deployed to a planet itself for unloading its payload (the goofy front being a loading ramp type of thing).

Then when it needed to be picked up, the SD could use a tractor beam for both attracting and repelling the payload section to and from the planet, sparing the use of extra fuel and engines to get it off the ground.

Just dreamin'.

 

Some pics of the new toys have been leaked... It looks like I was darn close to correct. Its kind of stacked. 1/4 of the way down.

https://www.inverse.com/article/553...wars-toy-catalog-tells-us-about-force-awakens

Now we all know the toys are notoriously inaccurate - BUT the general shape seems to jive with the trailer... so I'm going with it until proven otherwise

I still like the idea of it splitting top-bottom...

Jedi Dade

 

Heres som tech drawings of the Finalizer:



http://www.starwars7news.com/2015/0...-star-destroyer-including-the-ships-name.html

J

 

Whoa! I like it! Thanks for posting that.

Chris

 

Brilliant good post maybe next project

<edit> pre ordered the blue print book

 

I got that book it was rubbish

But a bit more reference has appeared online since force friday

Top Image rendered ( off a wall sticker)



And a better blue print not complete though



You can get a better set of blue prints but it appears you have to buy a tshirt !



Still no good reference from the underside, I got a micro machines model its not ideal ..


Steve

 

Is it me, or does this look like it's supposed to be a heavily modified ISD?
The engine block looks almost identical to me, while the bow and the "house" on top seem to be the main changes.

Then again, I'm not one of the guys who've scrutinized the studio scale models.

 

Beautiful!

Chris

 

Past the general shape its really totally different then the main SD - even if you just take the top part.

But what I really think about this beast is that its frikkin' awesome. I hope it kicks butt in the film and is not there for only 2 seconds.

Jedi Dade

 

To dispel any doubts, check out this image.

http://www.starwars7news.com/2015/0...shuttle-from-star-wars-the-force-awakens.html

Hope that helps folks.

Dave.

 

Woe!!!.....The Shuttle looks brilliant,.....love the new SD also

J

 

I just don't get the tall wings on the shuttle that don't appear to move at all. Eh, maybe it will grow on me when I see the movie.

 

I agree. If they don't swing down like the Lambda shuttle, it would make no sense.

 

Wait, this just hit me. The SD name is actually Finalizer.

Okay. I was a little worried when they put JJ and his boys in charge. The things I'd seen lately eased my fears, now I'm back to being worried.

As for the shuttle, I'm betting the upright wings fold down so that they're even with the lower portion of the ship. I say that because it looks like the doodlie where the guns terminate has a gap. The only reason I see for that is so that the wings fold down and it has more of a flying wing look to it.

 

The wings of the shuttle do fold down, if you look at the second trailer around 1:18 you can see them in a different angle.

 

Are there any toys out of the shuttle? What do the wings do on the Lego version?

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i've yet to see a toy with anything but static vertical wings... I'm curious as to what angle the shuttles wings go to, but they for sure angle out at least a bit in flight

 

IIRC, the wings of the Lego shuttle simply extend further up, via a rather odd mechanism.

http://www.lego.com/en-us/starwars/products/episode-vii/75104-kylo-rens-command-shuttle

 

This is what I have at this point lots more work to do at 1/2256 it is a monster let me know what you think?

 

That looks great and it looks you you have a nice size hobby room as well.

 

Wow, that's amazing! I really hope there's a kit at some point. The new SD design has grown on me

 

To be honest the new SD is about the only design from these new movies I really want a kit of. The T-70 is OK, but just about all the new ships look awkward and uninspired.