First Avenger belt and holster rig [COMPLETED 07MAY2012]

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  1. Sandman0077

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    I'm starting a build of Captain America's belt, pouches, and holster rig. Currently in the research phase of all the pieces. Stopping by the surplus store tomorrow to grab some stuff. Most of the hi-res pictures I am going by are from the 1/6th Action figure. It is incredibly detailed and screen accurate from what I can see. I will be making this out of leather and hand stitching it all.

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    The only issue now is the belt buckle. It appears to have a seat belt type of function, but I don't think I've seen it in use in the movie. Anyone have any insight on this?
     
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  2. Judge Spartan

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    Re: First Avenger belt and holster rig

    The pouches look to me like french ammo pouches. I don't know about the belt buckle but it is a cool looking one.
     
  3. Sandman0077

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    I will be custom making all the pieces, I was just wondering if there was any actual images or videos that show how the buckle operates. If not then I will just fabricate a working system.
     
  4. Looch

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    Check out BROTHERFOSTER, he has made a non-opening version out of aircraft aluminum.
     
  5. Sandman0077

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    Thank you! Awesome close ups, I appreciate it. :thumbsup
     
  6. Finhead

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    Depending on how accurate you need/want it, you could always go with the Ud replicas belt and just make the holster. Pretty good deal at $98 IMO.
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  7. Sandman0077

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    I am making it for another member and going for as screen accurate as possible. None of the costumes you can buy are near the quality we are going for.

    I'm thinking of just making the buckle a solid piece like member BROTHERFOSTER made, but have it cover a regular WWII belt latch system, kind of like a shell if you will.
     
  8. THEMAN

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    His holster is an easy one once you have the rest of the belt done... standard issue Colt WWII holster. You can grab a really nice/accurate version from Whatpriceglory, and it comes naked so you can dye it the timber brown really easily.
     
  9. Sandman0077

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    Yeah its a m1916 holster from what I've researched. I am buying one off of ebay to take apart and get the patterns for it so I can just make more if I sell more of these belts
     
  10. Looch

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    Tandy Leather has the holster kits, you could get one and then make the patterns from that:)
     
  11. Sandman0077

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    I just looked and couldn't find the proper holster kit. Do you have a specific link?
     
  12. Finhead

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    If you decide to sell em once you get it all sorted out count me in for one.:) Wont need a buckle as I'll be milling my own out but the leather work would be of great interest.

     
  13. Sandman0077

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    Seeing how this first one goes will be the deciding factor for if I do more. I probably will though. Alot of people could use them I see.
     
  14. terryr

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    Heres BROTHERFOSTERs thread.

    http://www.therpf.com/f9/captain-america-tfa-hero-aluminum-buckle-124617/

    The buckle looks custom made and functions like Blades Stubai or The Rocketeers jetpack.
    Push the top and bottom buttons and it releases the T shape.

    I wonder if an old style seat belt buckle would work, if it had a plate added overtop.

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    Found these at Ohio Travel bag;

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  15. Sandman0077

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    Precisely the type of buckle function I am using. :)
     
  16. Sandman0077

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    UPDATE

    Located a reproduction holster that I am going to take apart and get a pattern from. The reason I'm not just ordering a holster is because I want the entire belt to match when it is dyed, and I'm afraid the holster won't match the rest unless it's made from the same piece of hide.
     
  17. Sandman0077

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    A little progress today..

    Drew up a rough working buckle in Paint. I'll be modeling it up in SketchUp later. I will try to get this printed in aluminum (see if that works first), then if that doesn't work I'll cast it in resin.

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  18. Finhead

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    Not sure how much luck you will have with aluminum or resin bending like that too often. Might do it a few times but really it should be nylon or something similar. What size is the belt going to be? As in the leather strap.
    Might be better to make a thin shell and epoxy it onto a bought clip.
     
  19. Sandman0077

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    I thought about that and I will probably just get a shell made to cover a pre-bought buckle like you said. Idk yet, I got bored lol.

    The buckle will be made to fit a 3" belt.
     
  20. terryr

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    Well, the ones I attached are metal. But the arms would have to be thin to flex.

    Or make them separate with springs.
     
  21. Sandman0077

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    Springs could work. I think ill just focus on the leather portion for now.
     
  22. terryr

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    Or spring wire shaped into a 'C' with the tabs fixed on the ends.

    But when I look at the screen used buckle I think it might be a fake. That is, it looks like it comes apart, but doesn't.
    I think one side of the belt attaches behind in some simple way.
     
  23. Sandman0077

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    Screen used was a fake I'm pretty sure. They never show it in use and in all of the pictures I've seen it looks like a solid piece.
     
  24. Sandman0077

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    UPDATE

    Here is my wooden prototype of the belt buckle. I will cast it in resin first to see if it will work.

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  25. Looch

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    I used kit # 44450-06!
     
  26. Sandman0077

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    I actually just bought a reproduction holster that I'm going to take apart and get the pattern for. That way if I ever do a run of these I will have them on file with my other patterns. Thanks though! :)
     
  27. Sandman0077

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    Re: First Avenger belt and holster rig [NEW PICS 10FEB2012]

    Hello all! I'm back from the dead (actually from California) and ready to go. Nothing further on the buckle, but the leather will be ordered soon and I hope to get started by early next week. My wife has a job now so I have plenty of weekend time to catch up on lost time. More to come.
     
  28. greylocke

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    Please tell your wife thank you for letting you play with all the nice toys :lol
     
  29. Sandman0077

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    Will do ;)
     
  30. Sandman0077

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    Hello all!

    Back with a quick update. Threw together a quick prototype pouch based off of dozens of reference photos I have.

    ROUGH prototype, as you can tell by the staples I used.

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    I drew up some stencils for those of you who are looking to make one yourself! I made them as screen accurate as I possibly could.

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  31. Finhead

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    Looking great, def be interested in a belt setup if/when you get it all finished up in the JY. :)
     
  32. Zendragon

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    Looking great!
     
  33. Sandman0077

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    Thanks! Forgot to put it in the stencils, but there is some decorative stitching on the sides of the pouches. Look at some pictures of the screen used to seem them. Just a rectangle.
     
  34. merkymerx

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    Thank you so much for posting photos of the pattern you made! It's definitely a huge help to everyone making their own TFA pouches :)
     
  35. Sandman0077

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    That's what I'm here for :)
     
  36. terryr

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    I saw a neat buckle in the second hand store. It was plastic, but the idea could work for a fake buckle.
    Here's a quick drawing of the rear.

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    Basically there's 2 studs that lock into 2 slots in the other half.

    This would be metal. Then the front can be made however as it doesn't take any strain.
     
  37. Sandman0077

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    Pretty easy design. Thanks for sharing! I've decided to not work on the buckle for now as other members are offering them.
     
  38. terryr

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    The ones I've seen don't buckle.
     
  39. Sandman0077

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    True, however I am mainly a leather worker so I will stick to that for now. If I have the time and resources later on I will work on it.
     
  40. Sandman0077

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    **UPDATE**

    Got in the holster and pouch hardware today. Also the leather dye.
     
  41. Sandman0077

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    Sorry for the delay in progress guys. Unfortunately the Army decided that I was high speed enough to go all the way out to Arizona for some more training. That was last Friday. Won't be able to start until I get back on the 24th :'( I feel horrible because the member wanting this already put down a deposit and I can't do anything until I get back home. I HATE WAITING UGGGGGH.

    Good news is the holster and pouch hardware is home, with the leather in the mail. Should be able to start as soon as I get back.

    Again, sorry for the delays!


    p.s. Has anyone tried to use those patterns themselves? If so, how did they turn out?
     
  42. merkymerx

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    I'm pretty sure the member would understand your situation :)

    Can't wait for future updates!

    Oh and if you were referring to the patterns for the pouches you shared, I did try them out and it looked great! I could post some pictures when I can. Those patterns were a huge help!
     
  43. Sandman0077

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    Yes, please post! I would love to see someone else's take on them/issues they ran into/improvements to the patterns.
     
  44. Sandman0077

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    **UPDATE**

    Just got ahold of some excellent close up pictures and measurements of the screen used display. I'll be using the same patterns I made, but I'll have to adjust for the new measurements. No biggy, probably take about 10 minutes to make new ones.

    Interesting enough, the belt we all thought was 3" is ACTUALLY 2.75". The whole rig is alot smaller now that I see the new changes I have to make.
     
  45. merkymerx

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    Oh wow! With all the measurements and comparisons I've done the belt always came to be around 3" wide. That is a lot smaller.

    RPF member NuRF also will be sending me some photos and measurements of the screen used suit. It's great though that a number of members here seem to have access to it :)

    Many thanks to all of you for sharing the info you guys were able to gather!
     
  46. Sandman0077

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    We share the same source for information it seems.. :lol

    I'd post the pictures but I'd prefer if NuRF did it, beings as he was the one who put in the time and effort to get the measurements.
     
  47. Finhead

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    Pretty much the exact mesurement I gave you in your thread. ;)

     
  48. merkymerx

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    Awesome! I'll get his permission to post them as well once he sends them to me. :D

    You're absolutely right! I believe I stand corrected. I'm happy to have been proven wrong on this. Thanks a lot for the input you gave:)
     
  49. NuRF

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    Yep, sorry about the earlier claim of accurate measurements. It appears I got sooo excited that they let me measure a couple of bits that I wasn't steady in my grip! THIS time, I wasn't rushed - had the place to myself. And I photographed the tape measure against the bits this time. Hopefully this won't cause too many problems for people's projects.
     
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