Finally saw Avatar and....

[DARKSIDE72]

Aren't all conflicts pretty much simple in design? Religion, politics, land, domination, resources etc?


Avatar makes perfect sense in the scheme that man needs a resource in which they will do and deploy whatever it takes to control.

No dances with wolves or Pocahontas here. It's all about mining a mineral. Why do so many not see this? Wait... I think the numbers speak for themselves... :eek :lol Go Cameron!!!!

 

[Mola Rob]

Quote:
Originally Posted by PHArchivist
This review of the film says it all - spot on:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Avatar...y-Review/7847/

Hey! Seconded; it so does, really acute. Thanks for posting!

Thirded (new word).

 

[subxinu]

Meh, if I want a social commentary on the excesses of western society and the virtues of the third world I'd watch something by Michael Moore. I was disappointed. :unsure

PS: I'm not discussing the merits of such a message either way and I am not interested in engaging in an ethical/political debate here. :sleep

 

[Noeland]

I just didn't ever identify with the Navi, and I thought Jake Sully was a terrible traitor. He could have bridged the gap between species and saved both races, but he was more interested in alien sex and having legs.

 

[Deric]

Deric, what was it that you hated so much about the ending? It's no better or worse than the rest of the cheesefest. Full disclosure; I was quite anti pre-release but am now a quasi-Avatard. I just don't have any illusions about the thing.

The ship crashing a few feet from him and exploding but not doing a thing to him. The fact that his mech-warrior was able to startup within a second so he could jump out also bugged me. The main reason was he came across as some unstoppable force. I will say I did enjoy the movie though.

 

[Treadwell]

I just didn't ever identify with the Navi, and I thought Jake Sully was a terrible traitor. He could have bridged the gap between species and saved both races, but he was more interested in alien sex and having legs.

Only one of them needed saving.

Sully did not betray his race, nor (not that you said he did) the military. He betrayed a greedy and unethical corporation, and its hired goons.

 

[Nwerke]

Actually, Sully did betray his race, but the reasons why were cut from the final film. Earth is in so dire a strait that unobtainium is literally one of the few things keeping human civilization from irrevocable collapse. Hence its extreme value, enough to justify five-year sublight trips to Alpha Centauri, the militarisation of the base, etc etc. With the collapse of the unobtainium supply, Earth is apparently going to be screwed in pretty dramatic ways.

That's gone from the finished film but I doubt it's gone from the official backstory and will very likely be raised in the sequels - RDA got their butts kicked royally, so Cameron will be wanting to establish that the reasons for them to return are pretty pressing. I'm speculating of course, but I'd put fifty cents on it.

 

[Nwerke]

The ship crashing a few feet from him and exploding but not doing a thing to him. The fact that his mech-warrior was able to startup within a second so he could jump out also bugged me. The main reason was he came across as some unstoppable force. I will say I did enjoy the movie though.

All those moments had me laughing out loud in glee at Cameron's sheer audacity - my reaction in the cinema was a momentary "he's seriously putting this up and expecting us to buy it?".

But this was rapidly followed with an "am I having fun, though?"...and then an "oh HELL yes!".

 

[Adam H]

The only good thing I could say about it is that the scenes that would have been irritating if I'd seen it in 3d looked really cool and crisp in 2d.

Am I the only one who thought that since this movie had a few similarities to Aliens (drop ship design, some parts of the mechs), that it would have been really fun to reverse the Jenette Goldstein/Vasquez thing and have Michelle Rodriguez play Jewish? The thing I enjoyed most about the movie was during her scenes, I kept mentally ADRing her voice with Jenette Goldstein's actual voice, which was really fun.

But yeah, I'm actually kinda mad I gave in and saw it. I'm sorry, but I'm not one of those people that's able to check their brain at the door. I like things that make me think. I spent this whole movie playing little mental games so I wouldn't get bored, and at a certain point the one I was playing was "let's see where the CGI Really doesn't translate", which was a lot. I get it the movie was meant to be seen in HUGE 3d but honestly, let's concentrate on making it an actual good movie first.