Fifth Element prop builds & acquisitions 15 Feb 2016: Mangalore rifle sling

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  1. kurtyboy

    kurtyboy Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    About time I worked on this as it's been gathering dust for about 5 years! Zorg's build thread is proving to be a great help.

    Mainly just filling in the dents and gouges but leaving the seam line intact as it's on the originals.
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    This detail was damaged but I was able to get some extras.
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    Side plate was pretty uneven on the underside so I'm fixing that.
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    Front tip will be made using Zorg's method.
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  2. kurtyboy

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    Fifth Element prop builds. 17 October: Multipass woes!

    Got the front nozzle done and started on the sling.
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  3. GunnerBill

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    Re: Fith Element Mangalore rifle build

    I love your use of the tape carrier and other bits. It's how I do the detail on my projects and I love hunting around shops and all the junk at home looking for this stuff!
     
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  4. kurtyboy

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    Fith Element prop builds & acquisitions. 16 Nov:Mangalore Grenade / President's Phone

    Thanks Bill, although credit goes to Zorg for coming up with this solution.

    Got the sling netting done and found my Enfield sling which is what the original props used.
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    Some tests at dirtying up the deerskin for the sling covering...
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    I decided to do a lot more clean up than I had planned. Still undecided about the main seamline that runs right around the casting. It was present on the stunts but not on the hero prop sold at Prop Store.
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    Mock up of the serial number plate. Final will be vinyl decal on embossing aluminium with stamped numbers.
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  5. Risu

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    Re: Fith Element Mangalore rifle build

    That's looking great! Did somebody do a run of those resin casts at some point?
     
  6. cavx

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    Re: Fith Element Mangalore rifle build

    I went to watch The 5TH Element after reading about the seams and sure enough, they are there on pretty much all the guns. Gotta love HD.
     
  7. kurtyboy

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    Re: Fith Element Mangalore rifle build

    There was a limited run 4-5 years ago, only about 10 were produced as far as I remember.

    Stunt on the left, hero on the right:
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    Although looks like they didn't bother removing the seam from the back.
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  8. Dao2

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    Re: Fith Element Mangalore rifle build

    oh wow, awesome
     
  9. Risu

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    Re: Fith Element Mangalore rifle build

    Good old Luc Besson and his circles in the middle of everything.

    My personal opinion on the seams is to finish it to look as real as possible/eliminate the seams entirely. That's just me, though.
     
  10. EmmaInCandyland

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    Re: Fith Element Mangalore rifle build

    Stunning!!!
     
  11. AGxM

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    Re: Fith Element Mangalore rifle build

    Love it.....going to dig out the bluray tonight now myself.
     
  12. dropshipbob

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    Re: Fith Element Mangalore rifle build

    I just realized where that fan grill part is from!

    Has it already been identified?
     
  13. Noeland

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    Re: Fith Element Mangalore rifle build

    It's tough not to love those guns. Weird and odd as they are, it just adds so much alien charm.
     
  14. kurtyboy

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    Re: Fith Element Mangalore rifle build

    After a long think about it I decided to remove the seam, but I'll leave the seam at the back and behind the grip like it is on the hero rifles.
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    After the first pass. Still some tidying up to be done.
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    Still got to do the fiddly bits!
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    I'm so pathetic I have to get a metal worker to bend the rails for me. I was going to buy a vice grip and do it myself but I have nothing suitable to attach it to!
    He's going to get them welded for me as well anyway so two birds with one stone. Just need to draw up the templates for him :)

    Vinyl decals have been ordered for the serial number plate, got the embossing aluminium and am still waiting for the die stamps to arrive from China.

    Looks to me like the two barrels on the hero rifles are aluminium tubes. Seriously considering hacking the fiber glass ones off and replacing them with metal ones!
     
  15. kurtyboy

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    Re: Fith Element Mangalore rifle build

    Metal barrels on hero rifle:
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  16. kurtyboy

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    Re: Fith Element Mangalore rifle build

    Working on a template for the rails to be bent into shape. A bit tricky allowing for perspective.
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  17. Vacformedhero

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    Re: Fith Element Mangalore rifle build

    Looks spot on , brilliant
     
  18. justice league

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    Re: Fith Element Mangalore rifle build

    Clean work
     
  19. kurtyboy

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    Re: Fith Element Mangalore rifle build

    Thanks very much guys.

    Difficult seams are now gone.
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    Serial number plate just needs the numbers stamped into the aluminium as soon as I get the die stamps.
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    And got this update from my metal guy, Sidewinder :)
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  20. kurtyboy

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    Re: Fith Element Mangalore rifle build

    First attempt at stamping the numbers on the serial plate. Quite tricky.
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    Rails just need welded.
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  21. kurtyboy

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    Re: Fith Element Mangalore rifle build (and other 5th Element props)

    Got my welded rails. Probably should've gone with steel but the aluminium should look okay with some paint.
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    Also started work on Korben's phone. Something I've wanted to build for a very long time.
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  22. kurtyboy

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    Fifth Element prop builds - Korben Dallas' phone

    Now that I've studied Korben's phone in detail it looks like two donor phones were used. There is one distinct area of the frame that only appears once on the real phone but twice on the prop. So my second phone is on it's way to me now...
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  23. kurtyboy

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    Re: Fith Element prop builds - Korben Dallas' phone

    Oh, and got these from Zorg. Excellent castings with only very minor seam removal and drilling out of the attachment slots.
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    And messing about with the pop-up 'Winner' ticket.
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  24. Vacformedhero

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    Re: Fith Element prop builds - Korben Dallas' phone

    Ohhhhhhhh that's something I want , his trophies
     
  25. Mobjack

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    Re: Fith Element prop builds - Korben Dallas' phone

    Man, you do some very clean work. Your gun looks better than the hero gun. Very nice work.
     
  26. kurtyboy

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    Zorg is selling the trophies in the Junkyard. Highly recommend them.

     
  27. kurtyboy

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    Mobjack, thank you. I get obsessive!
     
  28. kurtyboy

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    Fith Element prop builds. 29 September - Multipasses!

    Bought these Multipass kits from Matt Munson many moons ago and decided to finally dust them off and build them. I miss my old Multipass which I had to sell along with a lot of my stuff a while back.

    Following both Matt's tutorial and Zombie Killer's, with a bit of my own customization. I just hope I can make the electronics work this time round!

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    Following ZK's advice, I filed down the top of the corrugated pieces and cut out some of the bottom top layer (it was easier than trying to file a curve). This allows the top layer to sit flat.
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    The LED sat too high on my previous Multipass, so again following ZK's advice I filed out some of the bottom layer and filed down the underside of the LED.
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    I'm going to use the eyeglasses arm piece that Charles Kline sent me this time instead of the yellow acrylic rod. Ordered another pair of glasses as well.
    Also filed down the edges of the LED frames. The squared strips are too narrow. These are 1mm and I scale the one on the original prop to 1.5mm so I've ordered some in that size.
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    Followed Matt's tutorial and filed down the 'nipple' on the clear domes, sanded and polished back to a smooth finish. However, l wish I hadn't because I can still see this on the original prop!
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    I also have these eyelets to use this time, as long as the stainless steel ball chain fits through.
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    A quick test-fit and I'm much happier with the height of the LED this time.
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    Layers glued together and some preliminary filing of the edges.
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    The part I hate the most: Getting rid of seams!
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    After first fill/file/sand/prime...
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    After a few more passes, the seams are almost gone :)
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    Self adhesive yellow vinyl added to back of clear domes and I cut out backing from 1mm styrene sheet. This is to stop the buttons from falling out.
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  29. kurtyboy

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    Fith Element prop builds. 2 October: Korben's alarm clock

    A quick build. Clear acrylic, adhesive inkjet transparency, an old PC cable and some double sided tape. I hope to improve on the cable part later.
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  30. justice league

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    Re: Fith Element prop builds - Korben Dallas' phone

    Were those WiIlis or Oldman's Trophies ?
     
  31. RogueTrooper

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    Re: Fith Element prop builds. 2 October: Korben's alarm clock

    Very nice prop work...well done;)
     
  32. kurtyboy

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    Re: Fith Element prop builds. 2 October: Korben's alarm clock

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    Thanks :)

    My second brick arrived today so I'll work on Korben's phone some more tomorrow.
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  33. justice league

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    Re: Fith Element prop builds. 2 October: Korben's alarm clock

    kurt thats so nicely done wow
     
  34. tim

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    Re: Fith Element prop builds. 29 September - Multipasses!

    Great job, Kurtyboy! I did a MattMunson build a while ago too, and like you, had trouble getting the LED to sit at the right height (but was able to get it to illuminate).

    You can see how I devised a simple switch for the lithium coin battery in the build pic below.

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    Finished product...but I need to get some of those eyelets! Where did you find them, Kurtyboy, if I may ask?

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  36. Vacformedhero

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    Re: Fith Element prop builds. 2 October: Korben's alarm clock

    no matter how many times I've seen this scene I laugh out loud
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  37. kurtyboy

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    Re: Fith Element prop builds. 2 October: Korben's alarm clock

    Not very accurate LOL!

    Tim, you can get the eyelets on ebay. Size 2mm. How exactly is your battery holder/switch made?
     
  38. kurtyboy

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    Fith Element prop builds. 3 October: Korben's phone update

    More chopping up...
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    Screen is temporary - material is too thick.
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  39. kurtyboy

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    Re: Fith Element prop builds. 3 October: Korben's phone update.

    Re-doing the graphics. I kept the pictures from my Matt's kit but re-doing the layout and fonts.

    Clockwise from top left: Mine, book scan, Matt's kit, screen capture.
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    Notice there were at least two different props. The one in the book and the one on screen are sized/positioned completely differently and the MULTI PASS text changes position. I'm going with the book scan since it's a clearer image and easier to match.
     
  40. Mike J.

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    Re: Fith Element prop builds. 3 October: Korben's phone update.

    There were pretty good photos of the ones up for auction. I'm sure you saw those. The print quality was surprisingly poor.


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  41. tim

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    Re: Fith Element prop builds. 2 October: Korben's alarm clock

    Thanks!

    The battery holder/switch is a homebrew arrangement. The kit conveniently leaves a little cavity for the coin cell. I added a clear piece of flexible clear plastic underneath the top "ring" and glued the yellow dome thing on top. I taped a piece of solid wire to the underside of the clear plastic (you can see it in my first pic). Not visible is another wire on the bottom of the "cavity." There's enough space such that electrical contact is only made if you press down on the yellow dome and flex the clear plastic such that the wire makes contact...kinda like one of those cheap LED flashlights that you squeeze to turn on momentarily. IIRC, a CR1616 battery was just the right thickness (1.6 mm) for this setup to work.

    The disc that makes up the bottom of the "cavity" is not glued to the prop but held on with two tiny eyeglass screws. That way, I can take the screws out, remove the disc like it's a battery door, and replace the battery.

    Hope that helps!

    I need a new back graphic for my MulitiPass though, so let me know if you work up to redoing the LeeLoo one. ;)
     
  42. kurtyboy

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    Actually I missed those so thanks for that! Looks like I need to start my Multipasses all over again LOL!

     
  43. Mike J.

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    Re: Fith Element prop builds. 3 October: Korben's phone update.

    Shame on you.
     

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  44. kurtyboy

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    Fifth Element prop builds. 5 October: Korben's phone update.

    Anyone have an idea what the multi-colored rod could be? Almost looks like a clear tube with colored beads inside.
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    I've got the front face and body of the phone done. Just the back 'ribs' to do, the antenna, and add electronics.

    I thickened up the side frames around the screen and filled some seams.
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    Filled some seams on the body and added the top face.
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    Made a new frosted screen from a piece of CD jewel case sanded and edges beveled so it sits flush with the frame.
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    Final front face. I've tried to match the seams on the original which was also put together from several pieces.
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    Also ordered some thinner red acrylic rod than what I currently have.
     
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  45. kurtyboy

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    Fifth Element prop builds. 8 October: Multipass electronics

    Voice in the Crowd did some soldering for me tonight. Far to fiddly for me. Haven't got the buttons figured out yet as I'm waiting for some of the ultra thin coin batteries to arrive..
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  46. DanielWGK

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    Re: Fifth Element prop builds. 8 October: Multipass electronics

    That colored rod looks like glass diodes in a plastic tube.
     
  47. Mike J.

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    Re: Fifth Element prop builds. 8 October: Multipass electronics

    Colored rod looks like airbrush painted stripes to me.
     
  48. kurtyboy

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    Re: Fifth Element prop builds. 8 October: Multipass electronics

    The colors look like they are inside to me. Haven't been able to find such thin plastic tubes. it's almost like a drinking straw in thickness but only about 3mm wide.
     
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    Swizzle stick?
     
  50. Mike J.

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    Re: Fifth Element prop builds. 8 October: Multipass electronics

    It's not just clear yellow plastic stock? Like you might get from a European version of Plastruct?

    Looking at the red antenna on the phone, I was reminded of 1980's Lego "space" antennas in clear red. Perhaps a similar part could be substituted for the Multipass? A clear yellow Lego lightsaber blade? Depends somewhat on the length I suppose. Assuming the props are warm yellow and not neon green-yellow.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=lego...e=off&tbm=isch&q=lego+clear+yellow+lightsaber
     

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