Female Predator Discussion

[Yautja Queen]

This is a good topic, I have been wondering about the female preds, as I am going to make a female pred suit, eventualy, hopefully....
I havent read any of the comics or books, but the fan fics I have read had said they were bigger. I didnt think too much about it really, but yes, I would prefer it if they were smaller. I would like to believe that the female preds would not be seen as weaker because they are smaller, I think they are just as formidable as the males in battle, as they are more flexible, Imagine some more flips and kicks in their fighting style? More athletic than the males? I think that would make sense.
And also, most people would recognise a female pred in a costume parade if it was smaller and had boobs. I mean, the majority of people who dont particularly know the franchise would see it easier that way. But it does come down to what the individual thinks. If you prefer them to be bigger, thats fine, and you could make a wicked looking costume bigger than the males so it goes with the books/comics, or what you believe. Its up to each person!

 

[munson]

Very interesting topic. As per concerning the topic of the relationship. I believe that there are a couple of characteristics from a few different species from earth. You could look at a pride of lions. The females of the species do the raising of the young, the gathering of the food, and some basic protection of the the pride. The males usually guard the territory, protecting the pride, etc. To look at most human tribes, the strongest makes of the tribe mate, thus continuing the strength of the tribe.

I believe that the Predator universe is a great mix of a lot of things on earth.

 

[ult warrior]

this is indeed a very good topic and it actually made me wonder why we have yet to see any female predators in any of the films......the female predators height is actually a good point brought up here perhaps in the yautja world the female predators have pure dominance over the men.......the reason we probably dont see any female predators in any of the films is symbolic of how men must carry the burden of doing whatever a woman say..... with the yautja mythology combined as a whole from the books and movies i noticed that in every film the male predators have to hunt to sharpen their hunting skills but more likely as a way of proving their manhood to the women or at least be accepted as a MAN.....like in the real world sense no guy would want their girlfriend to consider themselves as losers so they must prove themselves somehow ....it is kind of odd that the female predators are much bigger but i truly think that they were probably the first ones to live on the yautja planet before the men arrived which is why i think the men must accustom themselves before living in a world run by women.......

 

[Garo Predator]

Female predators can be whatever the person wants them to be since they are a fictional character.

But since I hold Male predator so high I would think the female predators were smaller and weaker. That still doesn't mean their hunting skills are worse they could be faster, more sneaky and down right woop ass.

 

[Estelle]

Munson, Garo, I agree with some of what the two of you say.
Munson I agree that while Predators are aliens, they do have some things in common with earthlings. I love the lion analogy. At its most basic, Predator society works like that. (Imho)
I can see how a male predator going out and “taking heads” is kind of like a male lion patrolling and protecting the outer skirts of his “territory.” While out on a hunt a Predator is in a way keeping tabs on possible threats to his home world. On a hunt he’s assessing enemy technology, fighting capabilities, gathering information about them and such. So ultimately he is serving the role as protector.
I believe both sexes hunt, but in different capacities and for different reasons. The female would hunt out of necessity, the male because tradition dictates.
KPH once mentioned that the predator concept was based on that of a Maasai warrior....so that would lead me to assume that predator society/culture could somewhat be based on the Maasia as well, in which you do find gender roles.
I feel that the reason we don’t see female predators in films, besides the number one reason; They simply weren’t written into the script, is because of the possibility of traditional gender roles. Maybe intergalactic hunting is something the male does only? I fancy that this is because the males are very protective of their females. Hunting on alien terrain is exceptionally dangerous business and the risk of losing any female to such would not be worth the risk.
Also this type of hunting tradition would weed out inferior males, insuring that only the strongest reproduce.

And Garo,
you are right. Saying the female is weaker (physically) isn’t saying she’s a flat out weakling. She’s just not as physically powerful as the male. What the male get’s accomplished with brute force, she accomplishes with brains! Lol, But seriously I don't think the females are all that into hunting...it's kind of like it is with women and football. lol
~Estelle

 

[Mr Fett]

No matter what the members of the Lair want them to be, the official canon material (released books, etc) say the females are larger than the males, so in the world of the Predator franchise they are. Period.

Aliens seem to be the same way. The female queen is much larger than the other ones.

 

[JehdinThwei]

No matter what the members of the Lair want them to be, the official canon material (released books, etc) say the females are larger than the males, so in the world of the Predator franchise they are. Period.

Aliens seem to be the same way. The female queen is much larger than the other ones.

I pee on your post. I just do.

 

[thicky ricardo]

i like the idea of a bigger female,it plays true in alot of wildlife today from spiders to certain reptiles and birds,i think it would be cool if some one made a huge female?like the berzerkers in gears of war

 

[punhulk]

id like to see a female predator in the films maybe Robert Rodriguez will work that out in predators sequel

 

[Deepcrush]

I highly doubt that females are larger. I've read that they are as strong if not stronger then males, but that wouldn't require them to be bigger. Human females are superior in most ways the human males. They heal faster, have great agility and flexibility along with slightly greater strength per pound of muscle. This is a feature of evolution as it was needed in order for them to survive giving birth. Why the random info, because I've read a lot of fan stuff about uber-pred-females but never seen anything that really backs it up. In all accounts of nature, the larger sex of the species is also the more aggressive. Since its pretty clear that male preds are the aggressive half, the logical conclusion is that males are the larger of the species.

That being said, I too would like to see a female predator.

 

[thicky ricardo]

I highly doubt that females are larger. I've read that they are as strong if not stronger then males, but that wouldn't require them to be bigger. Human females are superior in most ways the human males. They heal faster, have great agility and flexibility along with slightly greater strength per pound of muscle. This is a feature of evolution as it was needed in order for them to survive giving birth. Why the random info, because I've read a lot of fan stuff about uber-pred-females but never seen anything that really backs it up. In all accounts of nature, the larger sex of the species is also the more aggressive. Since its pretty clear that male preds are the aggressive half, the logical conclusion is that males are the larger of the species.

That being said, I too would like to see a female predator.

I agree to certain extent with the aggression but since there are no accounts of any female predators maybe they are more aggressive, what if they are so aggressive they can't be controlled and kept captive and only used for breeding purposes. Just an Interesting thought

 

[Deepcrush]

I agree to certain extent with the aggression but since there are no accounts of any female predators maybe they are more aggressive, what if they are so aggressive they can't be controlled and kept captive and only used for breeding purposes. Just an Interesting thought

Problem, outside of lacking sense, is that the race would have died off. You might as well say that humans have to mate through hand to hand combat with a Silver Back... no one is going to be successful. In all things of nature there is a dominate and submissive role to be played as some point during mating. With males being as aggressive as they are, the only way to dominate them as a whole would be for the Female to kill them all. Which makes mating a little tough and impossible since we know Preds mate multiple times in their life times... Considering the high death rate among Preds, it would be a death sentence for their race. Also, it goes counter to their culture that we've seen. They don't cage, they hunt, they provide... in the past food most likely and now in the present for trophies. In all hunting cultures, be it animals or humans or preds. There are basic rules that apply to fit the survival of the species. The number one being that no matter what, part of your race has to survive. That means only part of your race can be aggressive. If both parts of your race are aggressive then both would start hunting and both would slowly be killed off.

Again, this boils down to a simple fact. The Preds as a species have to survive and their is only one way for that to happen. For one sex to be dominate over the other without the requirement of brute force. While a female can by all means fight her mate/possible mate to determine his worth. At some point she would still have to agree to mate which means one of them submitting to the other for the act.

 

[Tsurabisu]

I agree with you, all the references I've heard made towards females include them being much larger... I also agree when you say it's the one thing that you dislike about the "Yautjadom" (great word btw). I feel that with how bad-ass and good at killing the males are, the female should be smaller... Why would the males become so large and lethal if the females are large enough to protect themselves? Just my thoughts, because I'd like to image the females as being smaller with a fiesty temper =P

Well, from what I've read in the series, the females are the ones who pretty much run things in the clans since they're the dominant sex. Who's ta say that the males didn't start their hunting ways to try and actually feel like men since the women could send 'em flying across the room at the drop of a hat? Just a thought. Heh.

 

[Tsurabisu]

Again, this boils down to a simple fact. The Preds as a species have to survive and their is only one way for that to happen. For one sex to be dominate over the other without the requirement of brute force. While a female can by all means fight her mate/possible mate to determine his worth. At some point she would still have to agree to mate which means one of them submitting to the other for the act.

Or it could be like the episode of Family Guy where Lois is taking martial arts and pretty much has her way with Peter. Heh. Sorreh. Just watched that episode and it really seemed to fit with what you said.

 

[Estelle]

No matter what the members of the Lair want them to be, the official canon material (released books, etc) say the females are larger than the males, so in the world of the Predator franchise they are. Period.

Aliens seem to be the same way. The female queen is much larger than the other ones.

The novels and comics contradict each other far too much to be considered canon or to be taken seriously as canon.. it’s just fan fair…glorified fanfiction so to say.
~Estelle

 

[Estelle]

Problem, outside of lacking sense, is that the race would have died off. You might as well say that humans have to mate through hand to hand combat with a Silver Back... no one is going to be successful. In all things of nature there is a dominate and submissive role to be played as some point during mating. With males being as aggressive as they are, the only way to dominate them as a whole would be for the Female to kill them all. Which makes mating a little tough and impossible since we know Preds mate multiple times in their life times... Considering the high death rate among Preds, it would be a death sentence for their race. Also, it goes counter to their culture that we've seen. They don't cage, they hunt, they provide... in the past food most likely and now in the present for trophies. In all hunting cultures, be it animals or humans or preds. There are basic rules that apply to fit the survival of the species. The number one being that no matter what, part of your race has to survive. That means only part of your race can be aggressive. If both parts of your race are aggressive then both would start hunting and both would slowly be killed off.

Again, this boils down to a simple fact. The Preds as a species have to survive and their is only one way for that to happen. For one sex to be dominate over the other without the requirement of brute force. While a female can by all means fight her mate/possible mate to determine his worth. At some point she would still have to agree to mate which means one of them submitting to the other for the act.

Beautifully put! I do feel the females are the ones running the show but this isn’t due to their being larger, stronger and more aggressive, but due to cultural and societal reasons
~Estelle

 

[Deepcrush]

Tsurabisu

Well, from what I've read in the series, the females are the ones who pretty much run things in the clans since they're the dominant sex. Who's ta say that the males didn't start their hunting ways to try and actually feel like men since the women could send 'em flying across the room at the drop of a hat? Just a thought. Heh.

I've read just about every pred book there is an none of them (that stuck to the lore&canon) ever put that out there. While its an interesting thought and may infact have some standing in some of the clans. Much like that of some human cultures where women are revered above men. Its a rare case of exception, not the rule.

As to sending a man across a room. A fit human can throw another person of roughly equal size several feet with ease. A pred, which is the size of a pro-bodybuilder with three times the muscle strength but equal size could easily throw another across a room. You can't compare the physical traits of a human with a matter involved a species that is so far removed from humans.

Or it could be like the episode of Family Guy where Lois is taking martial arts and pretty much has her way with Peter. Heh. Sorreh. Just watched that episode and it really seemed to fit with what you said.

This just makes me want to punch you in your big toe... that is all.

Mr Fett

No matter what the members of the Lair want them to be, the official canon material (released books, etc) say the females are larger than the males, so in the world of the Predator franchise they are. Period.

Aliens seem to be the same way. The female queen is much larger than the other ones.

So I gather that first you have no clue what the term "canon" means because canon is the films. Lore is the comics to which continued the series by artist interpretation and fluff being the random novels and rants of authors, many of whom have never even seen a pred film and likely don't know that there are pred comics.

Second, again there has never been a canon statement that declares "all females are larger". The closest is that we hear females are strong enough to throw a male. Not a big deal, I'm 220lbs and got my ass beat by a 95lbs woman from ROK special forces. And! Before you ask, yes she did throw me and I can't promise how far because I don't remember more then my feet suddenly being above my head and seeing the floor coming at me very very quickly.

What's worse is your connection with the Aliens/Xenomorphs. Since unless you are telling us they are related, their biological and social requirements have no baring on Preds. This was a lame attempt to justify something you haven't really thought of. While this is okay for your own thoughts, to tell others that they have to believe such no-sense isn't just silly... But to the sense of how forums work, its down right rude.

Moral of the story, don't tell someone what something is until you yourself know what it is. Otherwise you just look silly which is only good if that's what you're going for.

Estelle

The novels and comics contradict each other far too much to be considered canon or to be taken seriously as canon.. it’s just fan fair…glorified fanfiction so to say.

Indeed, Forever Midnight is a clear example of this. A novel that tries to rewrite the Predators as a whole new species, and fails in a beyond horrible fashion. Canon is, by its name, a direct link to a Fiction Universe. Novels are not canon but infact fluff, author's fanfic about something and while they have the blessing to write using the Predator Universe, they do not own the trade mark and thus do not declare canon.

Beautifully put! I do feel the females are the ones running the show but this isn’t due to their being larger, stronger and more aggressive, but due to cultural and societal reasons

Thank you kindly. We are all free to make our interpretations on who controls what in the pred society. In old Celtic and Galic cultures, while men were the ones who provided for the culture, women still ran things. I bet some of those women enjoyed some rough sex in their times, but this doesn't make them larger or stronger then the men. Just means they've got some fire in their hearts.

The social structure between clans is likely to very to a great extent. But, no matter how much it changes, the biological function remains the same.

 

[predation]

I’m personally inclined to believe that female predators are smaller and weaker than their male counterparts. I also don’t see them being as avid a hunter as the males are. Yet despite what we earthlings may see as a disadvantage ( Being smaller and weaker) I do feel that females hold and play a very important role in pred. society.

However, I do think the popular idea of the female being larger is cool, as I'm a very tall woman, so suited up I'd fit in nicely with the commonly held larger female idea.
~Estelle

considering the fact about some of earths creatures, female predators should be stronger. in earth, lionesses are the ones who hunt, so it kinda would make sense if the female predators are better than males.

but that would be scary; other than the fact of her being a creature, i cant imagine being hunted by a female predator with a voluptuous body.

 

[JehdinThwei]

The Iroquois Nation (one of the most powerful tribes in history) had a matriarchal society (run by women). They did not fight. The men did. The women made the big decisions though.

....just throwing it out there as random and useless trivia

 

[predation]

in the most nonperverted (and yet, the most perverted) ways possible, do the female preds have breasts and a curvacious body? we have to be able to distinguish the two sexes. do they have longer dreadlocks? are there extra mandibles longer or shorter? do they have any special characteristics in their face? are they in any way attractive to the male preds? r we supposed to be attracted to their body(not their face!!!)? are they even distinguishable from males??? do they have breasts and a curvacious body?

yes. i said that twice.