Paul Andrew
Master Member
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Fallout 4
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Assign her to a guard post or plant that's out of view from everything else to lure her away. Then shotgun to the head.
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I just have them farming. Manual labour!!!
Yeah I noticed that too, the masters sometimes go easy but then you have those Primus supermutants that eat bullets. I just sell the mini nukes, if you go back to that one listening post every few days in game the locked room with the dead soldiers has another one on the table. I wish armor would reset like that lol
I'm kind of ticked at the writing in this because all of the sudden I get the message that if I continue I will be the enemy of the Institute. I don't even know what they've done to warrant being wiped out besides a few kidnappings and replacing some people! Are they trying to take over? Replace everyone with synths? What? It would be nice if you gave me a reason for the scorched Earth policy the BoS wants me to carry out. As far as I know at this point is that all they want is to
build a better power source. I guess that's a capital offense for the BoS!
There's uh... that small business involving
the Super Mutant presence in the common wealth. That was all due to the Institute's experimentations with the FEV which all occurred during Father's reign. Unlike the Capital Waste and West Coast counterparts, these Super Mutants clearly state that they were turned this way by humans and not by the Master or by a Vault. The only reason why the Institute stopped experimenting with the FEV was because their lead FEV scientist, Virgil, escaped.
Which brings me to this conclusion. The Institute is a non-military version of the Enclave. Both keep their presence secret from the open world, both establish ways of influencing major populations and both experimented with the FEV. Still not convinced by the comparison? When you side with the Institute and finish the main storyline, you get an institute specific Power Armor paint job that can only be applied to the X-01 Power Armor set.
Which brings me to this conclusion. The Institute is a non-military version of the Enclave. Both keep their presence secret from the open world, both establish ways of influencing major populations and both experimented with the FEV. Still not convinced by the comparison? When you side with the Institute and finish the main storyline, you get an institute specific Power Armor paint job that can only be applied to the X-01 Power Armor set.
You know i was thinking about all those suits of X01 armor, where'd they come from? There's no mention of the enclave so were these prewar prototypes that the enclave later used? I think part of the reason I didn't find those suits in the places listed is because i went looking at too low a level and got other suits instead.
That's was what kind of made my decision after I found that lab. That and the fact that Father didn't seem to care one bit for the people living in the Commonwealth. Even though the BoS seem a little too fascist in this game they are at least trying to do something helpful.
I seem to remember reading something that said they were used by the U.S. govt. remnants only after the war. I just wonder why there aren't any advanced Enclave armor suits around. I would think they would have tried to find the Institute. There are plasma rifles, which unless I remember incorrectly, were only used by the Enclave. I'm also guessing the Enclave wasn't totally wiped out in F3.
Yeah I'm thinking that maybe over the ten years after F3 they scattered as far as they could, i know i found one suit with the corpse of a soldier and woman who I assume must have been fleeing with him. Why they picked a spot that was highly radioactive I don't know lol.
I just saw that info on one of the load screens while fast traveling.
I happened across an interesting bug in the Memory Den. While reviewing the memories of someone you kill there is a point where some synths get killed. I was able to pick up one of their weapons and I still had it when the memory finished.
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And your guess would be totally right.
There's still the strong implication of an Enclave presence in Chicago that has yet to be ventured.
In regards to the suits being scattered about, I think they were there before the Enclave. As established in Fallout 2 and New Vegas, the X-01 style Power Armor was very exclusive to the Enclave on the West Coast while the Enclave on the East Coast used their own unique style of Power Armor. There was not one Enclave soldier on the East Coast who wore an X-01 style armor set.
Stormie
Well-Known Member
The Enclave created APA (X-01) after the war.
GhostMinion
Sr Member
I think that you guys are overthinking the details of this game, like the X-01 suit. There are no details to say what happened to the Enclave Remnants (or if any even survived), and it's probably vague on purpose.
The placement of the suits, for example. There would be NO old suits of Enclave PA at pre war military checkpoints. They made the armor AFTER the war. They are there because the suits spawn per your level when you enter that particular cell on the map. It has nothing to do with the story or any imaginary presence of the Enclave.
Simply put, it's a product of the game's mechanics, not the story.
Also, the reference to the New Vegas Enclave Remnants has nothing to do with it. There are conflicting stories between New Vegas and FO3 about how the Enclave proceeded after being defeated in F02. In F03, they headed east. In New Vegas, they simply integrated into society and hid, fearing the NCR would kill them.
The placement of the suits, for example. There would be NO old suits of Enclave PA at pre war military checkpoints. They made the armor AFTER the war. They are there because the suits spawn per your level when you enter that particular cell on the map. It has nothing to do with the story or any imaginary presence of the Enclave.
Simply put, it's a product of the game's mechanics, not the story.
Also, the reference to the New Vegas Enclave Remnants has nothing to do with it. There are conflicting stories between New Vegas and FO3 about how the Enclave proceeded after being defeated in F02. In F03, they headed east. In New Vegas, they simply integrated into society and hid, fearing the NCR would kill them.
The APA and the X-01 are not the same armor. They may share many physical similarities but are by no means regarded as Enclave tech. Even the iconic helmet design has many different elements to it. Since there is nothing tangible linking these X-01 suits with the Enclave, I see no reason why the Enclave could have designed and built the X-01s and just abandon them in the commonwealth. Again, I don't know for sure this is the case and it certainly would have been an interesting one to have explored in the game itself (GRR!).
GhostMinion
Sr Member
Yes they are. They are two different versions of one another. The same way you have two different versions of the T-51 suit between FO3 and FO4. The same way you have two different versions of Glass Armor between Skyrim and Oblivion. They are the same.
