Originally posted by Treadwell@Feb 10 2006, 09:17 PM
Rodann, there is no "slant" or "distort(ing) things when they are angry". It's perfectly understandable to confuse "already religious" and "recently religious" after three friggin' years.
"After" three years? More like
before. :unsure I'm not talking about a deterioration of the facts, I'm talking about the sheer inability to pay attention to them in the FIRST place. I saw this three years ago, and got fed up with the misquoting, so I gave up trying to correct people. A lot of people here, only "cherry pick" what others post.
.......Like recently- I posted to a thread, talking about SG1, saying how I missed the old team, missed Showtime, and that it just wasn't the same. I said I didn't like the new guy from Farscape, and how I never watched the show because of that. Not one, but TWO people jumped on me with "how can you not like the show if you never even watched it". WTH? I said "Farscape" guy.
Farscape's the show I never watched. :rolleyes
Just to clarify, several people, in several different threads on TDH as well as here, have used those words to assume (as well as SAY) that Greg was essentially "born again", and they blamed him for using religion as an EXCUSE. Like he found God, became religious, then decided to screw people BECAUSE of it. THAT was never said. In other words, they took the "he got religious in his conversation about his sudden hatred of this hobby" (I'm making that sentence up) , and ran with it, ending up repeating "he found religion" like a mantra. It's like saying he "hurt his back", then hearing everyone say "he
broke his back".
And applying what
I said, to Gav or anyone else, shows a skewed change of facts, which is what I was simply pointing out. Incorrect fingerpointing and such. Don't blame someone for something they didn't say. That can escalate to the point of a full blown witch hunt, naming all the wrong people for all the wrong facts.
Moreover, I remember the "recent" aspect of that thread, too. You were a participant in that thread. I don't recall you making this correction at the time.
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"Participant" is a bit of an overstatement- I posted maybe once, THEN the misquoting happened. And how can I "correct" something that I never caught? It happened after I posted, didn't it? Otherwise, how could people take what I said out of context? I never read that thread again- I quit the RPF around that time. When I did catch it, I did try to correct it. But nobody caught it. Nobody cared. They were on a mission. Like I said above, I got fed up with correcting people. They want to run with their mantra, then go ahead. :unsure
Like I said before, Greg wasn't a Jedi135 or whomever else he's listed alongside. He cared too much. He was an overly sensitive guy, who dwelled on things, took things way too personally, and let things get under his skin. It wasn't fair to attack him at the time, when people didn't even know the REASON he fell off the planet. Personally, I was worried he was suicidal from what I was hearing, and the fact that he wouldn't talk to me didn't help. The more people attacked him, the more I worried he'd go over the edge.
And again,
I haven't even heard from him in three years. Does he owe me anything? Did I give him money? No. I'm a frickin friend, and he hasn't so much as made a PEEP in my direction in three years. Several messages, emails, and at least two handwritten notes left in his front door asking if he's even ALIVE........... have all gone unanswered. I don't know if he's afraid to get me involved, or what.
I just find it funny that people here seem to have given up on going after Jedi135 (a former friend who actually DOES owe me) when he owes people here so much more, but instead go after Greg so rabidly. Like going after the smaller guy is somehow making an example out of everyone else. I just don't get it. Doesn't Tim owe people here something like $20,000 or more? HUNDREDS per person?? He screwed over guys like Luuke and Fugazi for THOUSANDS, too. I know he owed Jeff's shop over $17,000. And Corey's (Greg's old job) shop over $5,000. And left bronze scope castings at a foundry, leaving THEM high and dry.
Where's the Jedi135 thread? When I pointed out the $20, $50 or $100 Greg owes to people, I was just making a comparison. I'm asking why you guys picked him to make an example of. Way too much sarcasm coming from the Mods to make anything clear, though.
