Evil Queen from Mirror, Mirror

Discussion in 'Replica Costumes' started by Eveningarwen, Nov 16, 2011.

  1. Eveningarwen

    Eveningarwen Well-Known Member

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    So I'm always behind on the "new movie" costumes and end up being the last in line to make something that I had wanted to make the moment I saw the movie but didn't have time to. Then by the time I've made it it's been done to death and that always seems to take the fun out of the costume a bit. (Although I've still thoroughly enjoyed making all of my costumes)

    So I know the movie still has a while before it comes out but I am determined to do this dress from Mirror, Mirror:

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    I almost always end up having to throw my costumes together in 3 weeks or less and it always stresses me out and forces me to take shortcuts when something goes wrong. So I really want to do this one right.

    Now it's still going to be a little bit of time before I start on the dress but I'd like to slowly collect info on how to do some of the detail stuff and I may start work on things like the headpiece and the peacock fan behind her. But for now I have a sort of "inspired by" piece that I am working on and will hopefully have finished by the beg of Dec and I'm super excited by it!

    Anyone else thinking of undertaking any of these costumes??? I saw the trailer and it looks like it will be cute and if nothing else will just be a costume explosion lol!
     
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  2. CelticRuins

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    I have a friend attempting this costume as well! While I'm hoping the movie is better than it's trailer...I really am fond of this dress!

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  3. AbbyDarkStar

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    I just watched that trailer and I LOVED the costumes!!! I can't wait to see the movie just for the costumes alone! It will be absolutely beautiful once you get that done. For myself- I saw this one and just wanted to make it just...well. To do it. Dunno if I ever will, but how much fun!
     
  4. MaulWalker

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    Just the other day I was looking for peacock sword feathers and saw white peacock feathers. I was wondering what you would do with them and now I know.

    Lynn
     
  5. Eveningarwen

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    OMG WHY DID YOU SHOW ME THAT ONE!!! I never even saw it lol! Was it in the trailer? It must have happened real fast. As I was watching the trailer I was on costume overload lol and had to make myself focus on one dress at a time. I would totally do that costume as well. Maybe I'll just make all her costumes. I mean once I make the hip bucket contraption to go under the dresses that's like half the battle.....maybe....sigh....we'll forever be poor because there will always be a costume I want to make hahahahahah!
     
  6. iycis

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    *! Did you just refer to panniers as hip buckets? Hahaha :lol
     
  7. AbbyDarkStar

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    Yeah it was in the trailer- a BLINK of an eye. I went through frame by frame to get the screen shot.

    I know all the costumes were great and I love Snow White's fencing outfit. Zen calls it my costume ADD. I'm glad I'm not the only one though, lol :lol
     
  8. Eveningarwen

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    yep! Hahahah! It's what my friend (who was also the costume Prof and the one who taught me everything about costumes) calls them. He always has quirky names for stuff and I totally picked up all his bad habits lol! Like being spoiled and wanting to only work with PFAFF machines and silk fabrics. * you!!!!
     
  9. Eveningarwen

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    Hahaha! Craig, my fiance, wants to kill me sometimes I think because I'm always like, "This is the LAST big costume that I will make". And then movies like this come along lol!
     
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  10. AbbyDarkStar

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    OH I know exactly what you mean! I have a list and that list isn't just "oh I'll use simple spandex" it's usually something ridiculous and just this morning Zen and I were talking about our costume lists for the upcoming year and he gave me a reality check about my list. We like to do things JUST SO- and unfortunately that always seems to equate to more $$$$.

    :p

    Oh well :D
     
  11. Eveningarwen

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    LOL! Craig gave me the reality check about our list a couple weeks ago after we finished our Tron costumes and basically spent $2000 on those two costumes alone. He also doesn't see the comparison when I say "Yeah, but the REAL costumes cost $60,000 each".

    I don't know why that doesn't make him feel better hahaah!
     
  12. AbbyDarkStar

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    HAHAHAHAH. Oh yes. Definitely. I keep pointing out that if we use the costumes for charity they are TAX DEDUCTIBLE. That doesn't seem to help us in creating the money to pay for them first, hahah!
     
  13. Darth Mule

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    Wow! I almost want to make one of these just for the challenge. That's a LOT of dress! I'd venture to say that pannier is bigger than my apt...:unsure
     
  14. TeresaMRoberts

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    I haven't even see the the trailer but the pictures you all are posting look incredible. very time consuming and expensive. I can't even imagine how many yard of fabric that dress is WOW! Something about the costumes is giving me flash backs of costumes from the never ending story... Don't ask me which one, The silver city. Makes me want to go back and watch it. Keep us posted if you really go head with it! I really want to loose some weight before I make any more costumes for my self :( lol
     
  15. FANGS

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    This is one of the big dresses I'm tackling this year as well. I'm looking forward to the challenge of those shoulder pieces!
     
  16. Eveningarwen

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    What I don't understand about those shoulder pieces is when you zoom in on the high res images it's very clear that they are covered in the same fabric as her dress but I don't know how the holes are cut out because there's no seams or stitching or anything.

    I thought about using foam and doing the whole sealing and painting if I'm able to find paint or mix paint the same color. But....meh....I don't know. Then I thought about leather and dyeing leather but again....I don't think that's it. I would love to know how those shoulder pieces are done or even what materials were used.
     
  17. MaulWalker

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    One of the ruffs in "Elizabeth: The Golden Age" was laser cut. Wonder if the shoulder pieces were also laser cut?

    Lynn
     
  18. Eveningarwen

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    Maybe....But if you look real close the edging looks to be at least 1/4" thick and it's smooth and also all red. Did they layer like, 20 layers of fabric with glue in between and then heat press it super flat and then laser cut it? How is it so thick without any seams and no fraying? It's not textured so it can't be thick wool felt or anything. And it's definitely covered in that satin.....ARGGGHHHH!!!! (Shakes fists) * you movies and your amazing costumes and unlimited budgets and resources!!! Lol! Oh well.....That laser cut thing is an interesting idea though. I may look into that just in case.
     
  19. AbbyDarkStar

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    Gotta be house elves!
     
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  21. Eveningarwen

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    Man I need me some of those. One day....one day I'll be big enough to have minions. I can feel it! Lol!
     
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  22. Bizarro Lois

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    I would have called them the exact same thing. See, every time I visit the RPF, I learn something new!
     
  23. FANGS

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    I know, right??? Those shoulders will be stewing around in my head for some time.
     
  24. TeresaMRoberts

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    Thanks guys now I'm obsessed with getting a laser cutter! I'm like "OMG I can use one of these on fabric and leather... " I have to have one of these things. I'm looking at different ones online I'm justifying it with, My sewing/embroidery machines cost close to the same amount... You guys suck for putting the thought in my head now... So can I blame you for my purchase in a few month with I have to break the news to my significant other.... He's going to be *...

    I'm feeling this dress.. the embroidery looks fun :)
     
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  25. FANGS

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    That's a great dress as well! I love the sleeve detailing!
     
  26. Eveningarwen

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    So I've started working on my "inspired" piece. Right now I just want to make sure the embroidery part will work out. I don't have an embroidery machine so I will just use a buttonhole zig zag for the stems and outline and then hand embroider with embroidery floss the inside of the "feather eye".

    In this picture I know it's a bit rough but I had a few tester stitch lengths in there. The bottom part is a narrow zig zag, the right side at the top is the widest zig zag and the top left stem is in between. That's the one that I'm leaning towards. Also it got uneven because I no longer had the stabilizer underneath so the machine would pull it through nicely and ended up bunching a bit at the tips of the stem. Also the crystals are the only ones I had at home which happen to be light blue but the real ones will be clear. I'm still unsure of the size. I actually like this size so it will probably be either this size or one step up.

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    Again, this ^^ was just a sample that I wanted to test the different ways to make this design. I will eventually do a stencil so that everything is even and try to follow the markings a bit better so the stitching doesn't swerve around to much. But overall I'm liking how this is turning out!
     
  27. TeresaMRoberts

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    Looks Great, especially for hand done. That's going to take you forever. I love my embroidery machine. You have the grommet press don't you? I have a little hand one, but wouldn't trade anything in the WORLD for my embroidery machine. The hardest part is digitizing the design on the machine which can take you a few weeks. But then you can sew it perfect as many times as you need.

    Do you have any closer shots of the embroidering on the real dress? I looked at the pictures you posted and so hard to get a good look at the feathers!
     
  28. FANGS

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    Looks pretty good for a tester! I have an embroidery machine but the hoop size is going to be an issue.....I think. I'll have to see. So I might end up doing at least some of mine by hand as well.
     
  29. Laamberry

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    Gurl I'm bringing my embroidery machine home with me in January, you want to use that? I'll trade you for uh....access to your button press?? Or something.

    Also I think it's group costume time because ohmygod these dresses.
     
  30. Auryn

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    You guys really are ambitious
    but from what I have seen of all your work I am sure you can pull it off.

    As far as the big cut out shoulder pieces- I don't think they are made of fabric
    it definitely looks like its either laser cut or molded from a single piece and then painted to match the dress.
    The cut is easy- I can cut that in my laser in about 60 seconds (not including the computer design work).


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    I went looking for different high res pictures and found this one
    http://www.filmofilia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Mirror_Mirror_i19.jpg
    if you look on her left shoulder- it looks like there is a seam on the side of the shoulder piece
    so it very well could be covered in the same fabric.

    Don't forget that with cgi magic and photoshop, it very well could have a seam that they remove in post production


    oh and I think the peacock feathers are appliques- that would be a much faster route than embroidering them individually.
     
  31. Jewels

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    That dress is amazing and I am looking forward to seeing how you do it.
     
  32. Eveningarwen

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    You whaaaaa????? Uh yea....yeah.....this is happening.


    I don't see the seam but I'm definitely leaning back towards painted or dyed foam to match the dress again. I just don't see how that is covered in some form of satin fabric at all. Those edges are to thick and to perfectly molded. I think it's better to have foam that matches color wise as close as possible then to have stitching everywhere and possibly saggy fabric that's half way molded or pulled apart from either foam, leather or stiff interfacing etc. Then it's just a matter of figuring how to attach the foam in the seam.

    Also ARGH! Those feathers are 1) way more shiny then I realized so there's some kind of metallic thread or more crystals used then I can tell and 2) do look like appliques.

    Unfortunately it's easier for me to faux "embroider" onto the fabric at this point then to make appliques which usually still require you to embroider the design first onto applique fabric. For my inspired piece I'm making right now too I think I'd feel more comfortable being embroidered directly onto the garment. For the real dress maybe I'll have access to an embroidery machine.......amanda....cough cough.....so then I might be able to do the applique route.
     
  33. mdb

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    Yeah they are definitely self covered. The easiest way would be:
    make the rigid base, it is a good thickness but I'm not sure just how rigid it is. Maybe foam over some very thin styrene.
    Cut out the tear shapes
    Shape to the curve (heat possibly or pin to dress form) and then pin fabric shell following outside edges.
    Sew outside edge, slip back over the shoulders.
    pin the fabrics at the tear shaped cut outs and trace the shape either side. Pinning helds keep the tension to help in this.
    Unpin and release the fabric shell.
    Slash inside each tear and cut out leaving a minimal seam allowance and clip the curves.
    Carefully pin and press the seam allowances. unpin.
    Turn right sides and slip back over the shoulders.
    Ladder stitch the seam allowances with tiny perfect stitches.
    Sewing Stars: well, holidays, you win!


    That really is the easiest way. The two layers of fabric are sewn around the outer edges of the shoulder support as well as in the cut outs (can see the seam line and possibly a very very tiny seam allowance.) You could machine one or two cut outs depending on your abilty for spatial reasoning and love of mobius shapes But you still couldn't then slip the shell over the base.

    Sewing from the outside is really not that hard just fiddly and time consuming. You can hide all hand sewing stitches from the outside too.

    Pretty sure the feathers are not appliques. The design is too open for it to be. The very tops may be but the delicate lines are not. they actually shine like bullion in some shots too.
     
  34. FANGS

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    I'm guessing the press that has been mentioned a couple of times is press that does grommets, eyelets, snaps and spots? Yeah.....Best. Tool. Ever. I have to check that my friends don't try to sneak out with mine. Seriously the most indespensible tool I've ever bought next to my sewing machines and the Dremel.

    I'm seeing the shine now on the feathers. Ugh. More work. Hahaha
     
  35. TeresaMRoberts

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    I don't think they look like appliques, At least not the bottom part of the feather. The Top might be but doubt it. It looks like fill stick to me and the bottom look like satin stitches. Plus look at the way the fabric puckers in-between the bottom parts of the feather. That happens to a lot especially when I embroider satin type fabrics. I really think these are directly embroidered onto the dress. I agree about being metallic thread. It actually looks like two different colors to me, A white metallic and light silver metallic in the circle right below all the crystals. Also if you look at the vine part of the feather wear the two side pieces meet in the center the stitching is heaver. I just really think they're embroidered right on the dress. Beautiful... If I wasn't in the middle of moving this month I would do a test feather my self. Just for fun I'll work on a digitized design and when I movie into our new house I'll sew a tester onto a scrap piece and see what you think. It probably wont be till mid January. If you like it I'll email you the design.
     
  36. FANGS

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    Any progress, ladies?? I've been far too lazy......
     
  37. Eveningarwen

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    Ugh. I had an influx of orders come in that I have to work on and I'm also delving into a new area of sewing with plushie making. I'm trying to get those and my orders done before working on this again. I'm desperately trying to get my "inspired" piece done by no later then the endish of Dec. So hopefully I'll have more to show soon.
     
  38. aeryn

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    For the cutouts, depending on what fabric you use you can always burn them. i saw a GORGEOUS piece done by a girl for an anime costume - instead of embroidering, she simply burned the synthetic fabric with a soldering iron/wood burner to create cutouts for the collar and sleeve and skirt, then layered fabric behind it. the burning prevents fraying and you don't have to worry about seeing seams.

    your only worry then, is getting the shoulders to stay upright. :)
     
  39. FANGS

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    That sounds like something I need to test out! Do you happen to remember where you saw it?
     
  40. FANGS

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    So this dress sold at auction for $10,500. Anyone figure out those sleeve cap thingies yet?
     
  41. Eveningarwen

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    Wow! Ugh, I would love to be able to one day buy something like that. But I don't see that ever happening lol.

    I haven't really figured out the shoulder pieces yet but I will one day.

    It's funny as I was actually going to write on this thread today that I'm going to have to take a sabbatical on this dress. Unfortunately I will not be able to make it this year due to the complication of being pregnant lol. So no more corsets or tight bodices for me.

    But I will not give up on this! I'm not deleting this thread or anything because I will do this dress ASAP! But since I can't do this dress I will be doing another one instead that I will probably do a build thread on once I get going. That dress will be the Breathe dress from Ever After. I needed a nice empire waist gown and I think that one is impressive enough to stand out in a crowd. It's going to get worn to the Labyrinth Ball in June so I'll need to get started on it pretty soon.

    But if anyone else wants to add to this thread please do!!! At some point I may also do that inspired piece that I wanted to make and post it here.
     
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