ESB Vader Reveal mask and bust. (pic intense)

Discussion in 'Sculpture and Makeup Effects' started by Vadermonkey, Oct 23, 2011.

  1. Vadermonkey

    Vadermonkey Well-Known Member

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    Well, I have been sitting on this project for three reasons...first being that I'm buried...well more like, completely smothered with work and life (who isnt right?), second because I'm working on 3 other *different* Vader projects as time allows...which it hasnt for the last year or so. Finally, I am no sculptor and am a little shy when I take a new plunge but in lieu of Halloween coming up I thought I'd share this:

    The Empire Strikes Back reveal helmet and make-up head. The helmet is a TM ESB base and the head itself is my very first original human sculpt. As you may notice, the ESB reveal differs from ROTJ and has really become a favorite of mine. There isnt alot of reference on this piece but after lots of study I came up with the following.

    And now for the pics...

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    As time goes on I would like to make a new neck brace for this, this one is one of those kits off ebay which I really like but it was cast flat and wants to go back to that shape putting pressure on the mask and spreading it.

    Oh...and if anyone is wondering...the front has a face... ;)



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    And you guessed it....I thought I'd do a bit of a tribute (hopefully) to Dave Prowse. This is a work in progress with lots left to do but I threw a wig on there just so you can get an idea.

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  2. Al May

    Al May Well-Known Member

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    Re: Another...never before seen Vader.

    Now thats very cool, I think you nailed the back of the head look, looks very painfull, :eek
    This is the first ESB reveal i have ever seen,Well done for being original
     
  3. Sean

    Sean Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Re: Another...never before seen Vader.

    I think you have done a fantastic job.looks great....
     
  4. Darth Niob

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    Re: Another...never before seen Vader.

    As always it looks very cool Mike.:cool I like the idea of a Prowse bust/head behind the mask. Have you sculpted the Prowse head yourself? If so, pretty good result for one of if not the first heads you sculpted:thumbsup
    You are certainly the man for the "special" Vader displays:thumbsup
     
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  5. SAMSW

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    Looks ace!

    Love the 'back of the head' ! and the 'Prowse' tribute.

    :thumbsup
     
  6. lambotour

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    Re: Another...never before seen Vader.

    Awesome Mike. That rear 1/4 shot is fantastic. :thumbsup
     
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  7. Darth 123

    Darth 123 Well-Known Member

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    Re: Another...never before seen Vader.

    That looks really cool-very good work!
     
  8. Sym-Cha

    Sym-Cha Master Member

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    Re: Another...never before seen Vader.

    Superb and David would definitely sign this with :

    DAVE PROWSE = DARTH VADER !

    :)

    -Chaim
     
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  9. OldKen

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    Re: Another...never before seen Vader.

    That is AWESOME bro!

    Was it Dave in that scene in ESB?

    Either way a great idea, wonderful execution and a neat lil tribute!

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  10. Vadermonkey

    Vadermonkey Well-Known Member

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    Re: Another...never before seen Vader.

    Thanks everyone! Its far from done for the lack o0f time to finish but once everything is glued down it will all 'fit' a little better..there is a buldge on the back (left lookiing at it) that pushes against the neckbrace that I'd like to come through and then I'll probably case it in a similar pose to the 2nd shot.

    @ Ken, I've always heard it was Dave in the make-up and there is a still with what looks like Bob Anderson (no make-up) but I figured this thing needed a face so why not Prowse? I did actually debate making no face at all at one point.

    @ Niob, yes I sculpted the head myself. I had some great pointers from Phil (Cyberman) who is always very willing to help which is greatly appreciated.

    Problem is there is so little reference from that era in decent resolution that I could find. I ended up focusing on a Frankenstein front shot since he was in a bald make-up and some Vader stuff but those were all at weird angles.
     
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  11. hellz manik

    hellz manik Active Member

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    Re: Another...never before seen Vader.

    very original idea, bro! a bit creepy (in a realistic way, though). LOL
     
  12. Trap Joe

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    I´m speechless. THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST FAN MADE STUFF I´VE EVER SEEN ON THE RFF!!!!!:eek:love:love:love
     
  13. dcarty

    dcarty Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Sweet job, Mike!!
     
  14. judgedredd

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    very nice work you never said you could sculpt :)
     
  15. Paracord Junky

    Paracord Junky Well-Known Member

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    about * time someone did this. very awesome. are you going to put full reveal greeblies on the inside? i'm sure i've seen a picture were you can see a silver area inside the grill.
     
  16. Cyberman

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    Brilliant Mike!!!:eek
     
  17. Dioxide

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    That's fantastic :thumbsup
     
  18. Vadermonkey

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    Thanks everyone, and thanks also for those who have pm'ed me with suggestions on improving the Prowse half...I appreciate the input and will impliment many of those changes down the line. Its great to have 'fresh' eyes on this, especially being my first try at sculpting something besides a stick. :lol


    Actually no on the greeblies, if we look at these shots...(and I'd love to get some BR caps of this scene) there are different things I took from each one regarding anything on the inside...

    In the shot below- and there are a couple variations of this- you can see the whole appliance and also something reflective in the face part of the mask which I believe is simply a piece of plex that has been formed to the inside so that when the mask comes down it doesnt snag the actor.

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    In this next shot you can see something reflecting through the mouth which is the plex, the refelection dissappears half way down because thats where the plex is bent towards the front of the mask covering the bottom of the grillwork as seen in the last shot.

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  19. voice in the crowd

    voice in the crowd Sr Member

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    How did I miss this?

    Brilliant - well done :thumbsup
     
  20. clancampbell

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    Stunning! Just brilliant and the Prowse head is just bloody genius!!!!!!

    Rich
     
  21. xmr1

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    Well done, Mike!
     
  22. vetteboy1982

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    That is really awesome and I love that you wanted to do someting original. Has anyone ever made a wearable Anakin mask for the revael helmet ??? That is something I always wanted to have !
     
  23. jkno

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    An awesome rendition of one of the most memorable Vader scenes in SW! Excellent job!!
     
  24. Vadermonkey

    Vadermonkey Well-Known Member

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    Wow, thank you all. I still havent positioned everything properly but I'm glad you can all see what I was shooting for. :)

    @vetteboy1982 I do not know of an anakin mask but I am also working on a bust of Anakin from ROTJ.

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  25. vetteboy1982

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    Thats great ! Whats a reveal mask if you dont have the face inside???? Just sayin ! I think there would be alot of interest for a good looking wearable Anakin mask for the reveal....you could wear it and display it....the best of both worlds ! I better get crackin on my reveal mask...been slackin.
     
  26. kysupernatural

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    :eek OMG..amazing work, love both the ROTJ Anakin and the David Prowse nod....AWESOME, and I myself always loved the Empire looks as well..looked painful and more Frankenstein like
     
  27. DarthLuumzl

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    WoW!!!

    Great work!!! :thumbsup
     
  28. Trap Joe

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    Simply amazing what you archieved! Your work is some of the best here on the RPF! I´m never tired of looking at our great projects, mate!(y)thumbsup:thumbsup
     
  29. PoopaPapaPalps

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    I've seen a few reveal-esque busts and back-scalp prosthetics and none of the one's I've seen has been able to capture the color of the skin as well as you have. It feels alive and very sting-y.
     
  30. glarks

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    Brilliant work. Love the tribute aspect. How many hours have you put in to get to this stage.
     
  31. jaycee9

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    LOL... What a cool idea, looking great so far :)
     
  32. judgedredd

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    very cool :)
     
  33. Uber Fett

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    There was talk of someone doing this about seven or eight years back, but it never saw the light of day; as I recall. Perhaps it needed the right hand to have a go. You have done a supurb job at this task and I look forward to seeing your completed design! Outstanding work!!!

    Shawn
     
  34. frosty

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    those are both looking really nice, well done
     
  35. Slave1

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    I'm doing something similar with my reveal. If you ever decide to sell castings, Mike, I'd love to get a copy of the back of that head . . .
     
  36. kevinvader

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    Incredible work!Simply incredible and this praise is coming from along time vader fan!Glad I found this forum
     

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