Empire Strikes Back question...
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His hand and saber proceeded him considerably..
I assume these mechanisms were in place to assure that no foreign object damage occured to the reactor at the bottom of the shaft or whatever was down there that kept the city aloft.
So whatever it was entered those purging ducts at the same time as he did or it is a broken off bit of antenna or other debris.
I assume these mechanisms were in place to assure that no foreign object damage occured to the reactor at the bottom of the shaft or whatever was down there that kept the city aloft.
So whatever it was entered those purging ducts at the same time as he did or it is a broken off bit of antenna or other debris.
Lutso
Sr Member
It's his blaster.
This has bugged me since I was a little kid watching on VHS...not too long ago I slowed it down on DVD on my computer and I'm 95% certain it's his DL-44, although I can't guarantee it.
An easy way to find out would be to notice if he has the blaster after boarding the Falcon. That is of course, assuming that the continuity is true to base...
This has bugged me since I was a little kid watching on VHS...not too long ago I slowed it down on DVD on my computer and I'm 95% certain it's his DL-44, although I can't guarantee it.
An easy way to find out would be to notice if he has the blaster after boarding the Falcon. That is of course, assuming that the continuity is true to base...
EvilRocketeer
Master Member
I dont think George Lucas was qualified to write the script either.....
Lutso
Sr Member
I thought they found his hand and lightsaber stuck somewhere in the city, not on the planet below? Besides, how would they recover something from a gas giant?
I really don't remember, it's been ages since I've read those books (assuming you are in fact referring to the C'boath/Luuke books). Do they mention specifically where they found it?
Jannix Quinn
Sr Member
Apparently this guy found it.
To me, it has always CLEARLY been his blaster.
As stated, the hand would have shown flesh tone, and the saber would be with it most likely. The shape would be very different.
To me, there is NO mistaking the shape of the scope thing and the handle/barrel. But I guess some people like to argue about this..
As stated, the hand would have shown flesh tone, and the saber would be with it most likely. The shape would be very different.
To me, there is NO mistaking the shape of the scope thing and the handle/barrel. But I guess some people like to argue about this..
SSgt Burton
Sr Member
And the clouds BELOW him couldn't convey that to the audience? Man, people are so daft
The falling object provides a sense of scale.
Kevin
DARTH ANIBAL
Sr Member
Since when?
Rodann
Sr Member
Well, It is NOT his blaster, which is in his holster the entire scene, and the scene following it. And it doesn't have any cloth parts. Plus. why would they have him dangling there with the thing in his holster the whole time, knowing he's supposed to look down at it? It's probably just random debris, to show scale, like someone said.
I also always thought it was his hand, because of the cylindrical portion, and the cloth piece (sleeve?) that seems to blow in the wind. But I got slammed for starting this exact thread about 6 years ago. I thought Luke seeing his hand falling away was supposed to give a sense of loss...closure....his failure. Like when he looks down at his hand in Jedi. Whatever.
But that cartoonish and contrived comic book EU keeps coming up as an explanation, so..... it MUST be right.:lol Hey whatever happened to "Jaster Mereel"?:lol (Awesome name, btw). I always feel sorry for all the kids, growing up not knowing that other people have decided that they haven't seen the whole story.:rolleyes Poor things......their stupid parents only showed them ALL SIX movies..........
I also always thought it was his hand, because of the cylindrical portion, and the cloth piece (sleeve?) that seems to blow in the wind. But I got slammed for starting this exact thread about 6 years ago. I thought Luke seeing his hand falling away was supposed to give a sense of loss...closure....his failure. Like when he looks down at his hand in Jedi. Whatever.
But that cartoonish and contrived comic book EU keeps coming up as an explanation, so..... it MUST be right.:lol Hey whatever happened to "Jaster Mereel"?:lol (Awesome name, btw). I always feel sorry for all the kids, growing up not knowing that other people have decided that they haven't seen the whole story.:rolleyes Poor things......their stupid parents only showed them ALL SIX movies..........
Maelstrom
Sr Member
And the clouds BELOW him couldn't convey that to the audience? Man, people are so daft
This method is a tried and true fallback in cinematography though. It also helps lend realism to the background painting they used to show the clouds/city stem.
Just about any movie where you watch a person stop just short of falling off a cliff you always see some rocks/debris going off the side and bouncing down. It heightens the peril I guess.
Colin Droidmilk
Sr Member
Has anyone even stopped and considered how preposterous it would be to have him catch up with his hand, how completely undermining of the tone of the scene it would be? To have him catch up with his hand is what you'd do in a comic parody. It would be ludicrous hamfisted over-statement. It's not his hand. It's some insignificant piece of debris falling from either him or the antenna, the sole purpose of which is to increase our sense of the desperation of Luke's plight by showing the fall that awaits him. What the thing is is virtually irrelevant. The vocab of the film tells you it doesn't matter by the very fact of it not being shown properly. Kershner knew what he was doing. Trust him; you don't need to know what it is. That the EU decided it was Luke's hand means the EU is BS.
Maelstrom
Sr Member
Mayhaps you didn't read the quote I was referring to in my post. I know what the subject is and I don't have a specific opinion as to what the object seen falling is.
Although if I were to hazard a guess it is part of the antenna or something from his belt. If it IS his hand that would be pretty stupid...
With this many vents and there were many more shown than this what are the odds that his hand fell in the same place he does.
OldKen
Master Member
I honestly have never thought anything different. But that screen cap does make it look like a belt pouch or a square piece of debris.
Could just be they didn'g have the tech to make it visable enough or they just thought moviegoers would see a blob falling and assume it's his lightsaber/hand.
I think it being his saber and/or hand makes it MUUUCH more dramatic. And a perfect end to the scene and what he has faced and lost.
Will be interesting to see if the shot and effect is cleared up "improved" for the BR.
OldKen
Master Member
While the hand obviously made it down to the tumes faster... I would say that his 170lb self would slide down the tubes faster than it...
Who knows.
I just assumed it was his saber for the effect of what Luke had lost. All his belief in being a Jedi. The power he weilded through his saber. The last piece of his father and the Jedi... gone.
But I get what you are saying too Colin. Problem is. What did the original script/screenplay call for?
It isn't a matter of science/gravity. It is a matter of what was written and brought to life by the FX team.
Either way a very interesting question.
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