eFX ANNOUNCES LEGEND DARTH MAUL HERO LIGHTSABER!! see post#53!!!

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  1. GINO

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    EFX is proud to announce our next item in the Star Wars Legend Edition line.

    Darth Maul Legend Edition Hero Lightsaber!



    As you know, the criteria for an EFX product to quality for Legend Edition status, it must be primarily created by either directly molding a screen-used/production made original, or by utilizing original production molds from the LFL archives, or a combination of the two.

    Our replica was created by directly molding one of the few and rare screen-used hero dueling sabers!

    In fact, the saber that we molded to create the EFX Legend is the screen-used saber used by Ray Park during the filming of Ep.1 and then gifted to him after filming had completed.
    How cool is that?!!!


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    Here's some info regarding the original screen-used Darth Maul sabers you might find interesting along with a visual diagram:


    Screen-Used Darth Maul saber 101

    1. There were no metal body versions of this saber made for the film. Some were cast resin bodies with separate metal ends, and some were completely resin including the ends.
    2. All the buttons on these sabers were part of the resin casting and painted. No version of Maul's saber used actual separate buttons.
    3. Every screen-used version we came across in our research did not have actual emitter holes. There is only one shot in the entire film where you can see a saber emitter with a hole in it.
    4. There were several different types of Darth Maul sabers used in Ep. 1. (not including the ones sliced in half by Obi-Wan)
    The ones most commonly known are the hero version (for close-up shots), and the standard dueling versions (for most of the combat scenes).
    Another is the HERO dueling version, which is what the EFX replica is based on and there were only a few of these made for the film.

    Hero version
    - Created by casting a resin saber body over a threaded rod, with metal ends added.
    - Includes a covertec clip and retains all of the silver and red button detailing.
    - Threaded rod is sliced off flush with the emitter ends.
    - Emitter ends are flat and do not have recessed centers.

    Standard Dueling version
    - Created by casting a resin saber body over a threaded rod, with metal ends added.
    - No covertec clip added, and all the raised button detailing has been sanded off and replaced with painted dots (so that Ray Park could twirl the saber without the raised buttons getting caught on his gloves).
    - The threaded rod extends well beyond the saber body so that the colored dueling blades have something to be attached to.
    - Emitter ends have recessed centers.

    Hero Dueling version
    - Exactly the same as the standard dueling version, except it retains all the raised button detailing (this is a hybrid of the hero and standard dueling versions).


    The EFX Legend Edition version is going to emulate the Hero version in every way, except that the emitter ends will be representative of what is seen on screen vs. the actual film prop (which does not have a recessed center or an emitter hole).
    In the pictures of the EFX prototype shown above, the emitter ends are just temporary stand-ins and will be replaced with metal ends that have recessed centers and an emitter hole as seen on screen. :thumbsup


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  2. neon2102

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    Looks great, I'll be picking one up when they go up for order
     
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    "when they go up for order".... you'll need a crystal ball for that, I reckon :unsure

    Sadly I can't take eFX seriously with regards to new releases. when they are unable / unwilling to manage the release of existing products in their 'Legend' line of products. :rolleyes
    This product has the potential to be a desireable, accurate, licensed piece that many would like to add to their collections... let's hope that eFX is able to manage the Pre-Sale date-announcement more professionally than with their Stormtrooper Hero 'Legend' helmet debacle... :unsure

    Cheers,
    John
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  4. Eopie Herder

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    Well, this will be my first eFX piece!
     
  5. GINO

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    John, the stormtrooper legend helmet has not gone on pre-order yet. :behave :lol



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  6. MClass

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    But the Tie Fighter and Legend Vader have. For a long time. Longer than what most people consider a reasonable amount of time.
     
  7. James Kenobi 1138

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    Gino, saber looks great. Looking forward to seeing the finished piece.
     
  8. BoboFatt

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    Man, I promised myself that I only need one version of each saber. Why do you have to make me lie to myself?
     
  9. lonepigeon

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    So does this mean the whole body and all the buttons will be resin?

    If things are being cleaned up make sure and reference the original short saber that was cast to make the Hero Maul. It's sharper and has the real metal details. The resin ones are a little soft.

    Reinterpreting the resin details got MR a little mixed up so the details next to the LED's are wrong on that replica (they're not button head cap screws).
     
  10. Son of Skywalker

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    Awesome news! Finally a Maul done right :thumbsup
     
  11. GINO

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    Hey Chris, yes the entire body and all it's buttons will be resin and cast as part of the saber body.
    That is how every screen-used Maul saber we came across was made, and all the surface imperfections were in the exact same spots from saber to saber.
    We weren't planning on replacing any buttons or reinterpreting any of the saber body details as we wanted to keep the replicas as true to the original it was molded from as possible. :thumbsup



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  12. Trilogy

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    I'm very much an original trilogy collector. However, I've always had an interest in Darth Mauls saber, making this is an extremely tempting offering from eFX.

    I may find myself giving into the 'darkside'.
     
  13. Eopie Herder

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    Just to be clear, the pictures at the top of the original posting are of the product, and not the original prop?


    Any ideas on what price range they are thinking of for this?
     
  14. GINO

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    Yes, and whether you realize it or not, that is an awesome compliment!
    In those pics the emitter ends are just stand-ins though.


    Not yet. Still too early.



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  15. Eopie Herder

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    Awesome. What's the expected time frame for it to go up for pre-order? Credit card is already itching on this one!
     
  16. Eopie Herder

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    Oh, and putting the idea out there....eFX could really get some good sales from some Legend Jango pistols!
     
  17. GINO

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    Not sure yet. Should be awhile though.
    But lots of Legend items planned so start saving now! :thumbsup :cry :love



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  18. cayman shen

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    Too bad about adding the emitter holes.
     
  19. GINO

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    As far as the emitter ends go, we contemplated leaving it flat with the threaded rod sliced off as seen in the diagram in my first post, but feel that the greatest majority of our customers would prefer an emitter end that is more representative of what is seen on screen (see diagram in previous post).
    Here's a photo of one of the production made resin castings with that style emitter end.

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    There's always the option of removable/replaceable ends.
     
  21. GINO

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    Thought about that but in the end this is the direction we decided to go.
    I think it's interesting that in other previous versions of this saber, that the cut off threaded rod was perceived to be an emitter hole.

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  22. cboath

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    I remember some people here saying that wasn't real. That the emitter detail was done in post via CGI. :)

    It would appear that's definitely NOT the case.
     
  23. lonepigeon

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    Wow. I thought that was the original prop in the first post.
    So it's cast from the original and not cleaned up at all? Nice. :)

    Everyone knew that the hole was plugged with rod (it's been on Parts of Star Wars since 1999) it's just that most replicas were idealized with an emitter hole. Apparently, most people thought a lightsaber had to have a hole in the end. The same thing happened with all the TPM saber replicas.
    Larbel used to offer both options with interchangeable emitter caps.
     
  24. Mara Jade's Father

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    Technically both ends are screen accurate.

    Darth Maul picture by Boba_Fett_fan - Photobucket

    This is just me, but since TPM seems to favor hole-less emitters, I always considered the close up showing the hole to be a production brain-fart. I too favor interchangeable ends not only because some people may favor that, but I think it would be a strong signal to collectors that efx is really paying attention to the tiny details (We all here know you are but I am talking about the collectors who do not come to the RPF and do not have the insight).

    With that being said, I totally respect the direction eFx went because sometimes you got to just make a choice and know that not everyone will be pleased.

    I am not a fan of resin when metal is available but... when you have something like this that is done so well, I am seriously considering selling my MR and replacing it with this one.
     
  25. lonepigeon

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    There is no definite answer.
    The first post used to say that detail is debatable. Looks like it was edited.
    As Gino stated they didn't find any original props with emitter holes. Either there was a modified stunt that's now lost or the hole was added using CG.

    So if there are no props with emitter holes... how deep will the emitter hole be on the EFX? and what's inside?
     
  26. GINO

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    Awesome!! Thanks Chris!
    I'll have to see if I can get permission to post a side by side of the prototype next to the original so you guys can see them together.


    Just for clarification, the ends aren't plugged with rod on the original. The rod runs the entire length of the saber and is cut off and sanded flush with the ends. Not sure if that was what you meant or not.

    I can totally understand why they would think that.
    Before I had high res photos of the hero saber, I used to think that the 'hole' was just a circle colored in with a magic marker to give the illusion of a hole. :confused



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    On the hole portion, yeah. However, i recall it being said even the rim was fake as well which it clearly isn't.
     
  28. GINO

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    The hole in the emitter will be just under appox. an inch deep.
    Nothing inside the holes (certainly no crystals, not for a legend piece).



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  29. lonepigeon

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    Yep, that's what I meant.
    There are several pics of untrimmed sabers and even video of a fresh saber out of the mold with the rod cast in. Fairly common knowledge since 1999.


    Black paint at the bottom? I'd think raw aluminum interior of the hole would look odd.
    Personally, I'd prefer Hero style, but "as seen on screen" makes sense.


    The rim was confirmed several years ago when one of the Hero dueling sabers was on display (one of the European exhibits IIRC).
     
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    Hi Gino,

    Would eFx consider adding a threaded rod through the entire casted body to give it a more hefty weight?

    -Chaim
     
  31. GINO

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    Yep that's exactly how we plan to make them.
    That's how the originals were made as well.
     
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    So . . . instead of a hole going an inch deep you could also cut the rod, which runs the entire length of the saber, off and sand it flush with the ends ... even with an added rim like the Hero dueling saber?

    -Chaim
     
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    Another option would be to mold it around some round bar drilled in the ends so you could either screw in long threaded rods that stick out so you can screw in blades, thread in some short rods that sit flat for that look or even make one that sits lower in the hole with a magnet glued onto a thin sheet of metal that covers the end so there is no hole.
     
  34. GINO

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    Figuring out a way to do it is not an issue, it's just that's multiple versions is not the direction we're taking.
     
  35. cayman shen

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    THIS. When I think of Maul's emitter, I don't think of the close up at the laser door, I think of the clearly flat emitter we see as the Queen's ship escapes Tattooine and he lowers his saber. I think the cut off and flush sanded rod would be a second best option. A one inch emitter hole a distant third. When I think of the Legend line, I think "warts and all."
     
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    I have ALL of MRs close up Archive photos of the hero eFX molded for theirs, and I can say that they look IDENTICAL to the production photos you posted. All the boogers and bubbles are present. Only difference is that your colors are a hair more vibrant...but that's because your wasn't getting thrown around in Tunisia and Elstree studios.

    I can guarantee without a shadow of a doubt that I'll be buying one of these when they're released! I'd be happy to scan and post a couple of the pics if you can't get permission Gino. Just let me know.
     
  38. GINO

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    We did not mold the hero, we molded a hero dueling saber.
    Thanks for the offer Tricloudwalker but we have those photos as well. :thumbsup
    Ps colors are an exact match. ;)




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    Hey, this looks like another great piece, nice work! Hope to see it out soon
     
  40. Son of Skywalker

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    TPM releases and we get a LEGEND Maul...
    AOTC released next year and maybe we get... LEGEND Obi-Wan AOTC :cool
     
  41. TridCloudwalker

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    Here are two of my two dozen or so hero saber pics compared to the eFX DUELING hero casting. Different sabers, but both I THINK originate from the same mold. Gino, can you say for sure?

    eFX Dueling Hero:
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    Hero:
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    Also for fun, here's a shot of one of the cut-aways. Looks like there's some kind of release button under one of the "not a button head screw" screw:
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  42. Son of Skywalker

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    Great pics thanks for sharing Aaron! I've never seen that one of the the cutaway:thumbsup
     
  43. GINO

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    Yes, definitely all the sabers I've seen appear to originate from the same mold.
    All the same imperfections are in the exact same spots on all of them.



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    I am definitely looking forward to this saber :-D Question though....have I been going to the wrong eFX site lol? I know you guys haven't put this up on the site yet but it's so out of date and the archives don't really have much in them and yeah it just seems like there's a lack of company support for it. I'm somewhat new to all of this so if I'm missing some information and sound like a n00b and well that's because I sorta am haha
     
  45. King Ranger

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    Oh, thank (insert deity here), you finally announced this. I can't wait to pick one up. :)
     
  46. Eopie Herder

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    Galactic Hunter has soon cool pics of the eFX booth at WonderCon. The prototype (minus emitter ends) is on display. You can see the threaded bar sticking out both ends.

    GalacticHunter.com Image Bank
     
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    Maybe I'm a bit late in saying this but....THEY'RE COMING OUT WITH A STORMTROOPER COMMANDER?!? Score.
     
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    double post-delete
     
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    Very cool! :cool
    Can barely tell the difference between the real one and eFx. :thumbsup
     
  50. cayman shen

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    Trid, thanks for the shot of the "cut" ends. I've always wondered what that looked like. So much better than the silly crystal nonsense...
     

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