Ebay recaster bay12replicas

As far as the bio's go, i have seen the chin vents in at least three different helmet vendors over the past couple of years, i have had a few myself and sold them on, so its not exclusive to you.
 
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I added that chin, simple as that. It was actually a mistake/inaccuracy on my part, as the stunt never had the bottom to the chin, only the hero helmet which has never been molded had it.
As i said, thats just one detail.

I would also like to say that from the day Steve first contacted me, i had been very friendly towards him and very helpful. He has asked me MANY questions over the years about all sorts of projects and painting methods and i've always given him a lot of time and help with lengthy instructions on how to do things. Most other people would have told him to go and figure things out for himself.
Even after i first found him selling recasts of the P2 helmet i continued to be friendly towards him. He just doesnt seem to have much respect for people at all.

All you can say Steve is "let it go and move on" I DID remember, after i found you selling recasts a couple of years ago. Its you who needs to move on. Move on from recasting.

I started this thread because of all the other items (most of all the trooper helmet) you are casting and selling. People post these sort of threads all the time when they find someone selling suspect items.

Check this out:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Predator-Bio-...ryZ60361QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Keith.
 
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Keith

A bit of a pathetic example really, as that Predator undermask is my own sculpt, completely. Resin poured over a crap Halloween mask, then retooled and skin texture added. Completely modded to fit my Pred helmets.

You see, rather than just built other peoples gear, I can build stuff from nothing. You do remember the T2 chest - yeah?

Anyway, hey guys

Well, this thread seems to have turned 'south' doesn't it. First of all, thanks to those who have PM'd me with good wishes and support, much appreciated. And to those who have chipped in and offered support in this character assassination thread, thanks also.

It's been a soul searching couple of days really, I know I am in the 'right' and I have decided that that is the important thing for me. No justifying to other people, no revealing my sources, quite frankly it's nobodies business apart from my own, I can sleep at night.

I know the deals I make and the people I speak to - there is no need for me to go any further than that.

Therefore, I feel I have spent quite enough time batting back accusations and slurs on my character when it's inevitable where this is going. So it's a waste of time for me, simple as that.

I don't want to be part of a community that at the first whiff of a 'recasting' thread, head out and grab a pitch fork - which is what generally happens.

Keith, you may feel you have won your little battle - and I hope it makes you feel good, all the best to you, but it's irrelevant, it doesn't change anything for me.

OldKen, I wish to officially withdraw my membership from this place. I have logged in for the last time to make this post.

Best Wishes to you all and you know where you can get me if need be.

Steve :rolleyes:thumbsup
 
Just my 2 cents...

Your actions are making you look guilty, why dont you stick around and prove these people wrong, if they are wrong?
 
I don't want to be part of a community that at the first whiff of a 'recasting' thread, head out and grab a pitch fork


Well, that's exactly the part of community that I want to be part of.
It's also the community that gets offered the best stuff because who wants to offer anything good to anyone who isn't bound to some sort of honor code in this hobby.
The sooner people understand this, the better off they will be as will their collections.
 
Sorry to see you go bud
Some of you guys really do have some big brass balls, Gino you are offering helmets in that little ad in your sig in every post you make, but thats ok as you know so and so and have permision? forgive me a little chuckle at that, do you have a license to do that? do any of us for the stuff that is offered?
The hollier than though attitude really busts my chops
It seems its ok for a select few, but not for the rest
Its a great board to be a part of but there are a few people who seem above all the rest of us common prop enthusiasts
 
Sorry to see you go bud
Some of you guys really do have some big brass balls, Gino you are offering helmets in that little ad in your sig in every post you make, but thats ok as you know so and so and have permision? forgive me a little chuckle at that, do you have a license to do that? do any of us for the stuff that is offered?
The hollier than though attitude really busts my chops
It seems its ok for a select few, but not for the rest
Its a great board to be a part of but there are a few people who seem above all the rest of us common prop enthusiasts

I think you need to read the code of conduct:
7. Selling/trading of recast items:
Deliberately recasting another member’s creation without permission is something this community does not support. A member found selling/trading items recast from another member without permission will face possible disciplinary action.
 
Sorry to see you go bud
Some of you guys really do have some big brass balls, Gino you are offering helmets in that little ad in your sig in every post you make, but thats ok as you know so and so and have permision? forgive me a little chuckle at that, do you have a license to do that? do any of us for the stuff that is offered?
The hollier than though attitude really busts my chops
It seems its ok for a select few, but not for the rest
Its a great board to be a part of but there are a few people who seem above all the rest of us common prop enthusiasts


You just don't get it.
It's not about eliteism because I hate that just as much as the next guy.
It's about who you can trust not to screw you over.

If people won't sell to you, or offer you an item, it's not because they don't like you or don't want you to be part of their "group". It's because they don't know you well enough to trust you with their stuff.

And I can tell you right now, with that attitude, truly authentic props will be few and far between on your door step.
 
I'm familiar with the rules, its the double standards i was pointing at
As far as accurate props, well i have an fx lid, is it accurate, no, but people know what it is, i'm happy with it so thats all that counts, each to their own i guess, i admire the passion to have the ultimate prop, but its just not my thing
I know my own particular feild, am i an expert? hardly, but i will help anyone out who asks, i don't need to dangle facts like a carrot to keep people onside.
 
These look to be recasts of cking's indiana jones bust from a few years ago:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280170075817

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280158823556

and this is definitely a retooling of the T2 planet hollywood head I sold Helmetman a year ago. The stage 5 battle damage was filled in and then the T1 damage was cut in. You can see how smooth the right side is and the poorly sculpted right eye.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280163496500

So the planet hollywood head you have sold, rights have been giving? I have never heard of taking a cast and reworking it as recasting. I would understand if you sculpted it from scratch. There is a very fine line that is being walked by all members here no matter who they are. I am only talking about the above example.

Thanks!

Greg
 
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Keith

A bit of a pathetic example really, as that Predator undermask is my own sculpt, completely. Resin poured over a crap Halloween mask, then retooled and skin texture added. Completely modded to fit my Pred helmets.

You see, rather than just built other peoples gear, I can build stuff from nothing. You do remember the T2 chest - yeah?

My post to the link was supposed to be the link to your feedback under that other ebay account you have. To show people your other ebay account and all the recast stuff you sell under that name too.
My post had nothing to do with the predator undermask, although i can see why you thought that.

You would rather leave than answer a few questions about the stuff you make and sell. If you had nothing to hide, you wouldnt do that.

Keith.
 
Keith, you may feel you have won your little battle - and I hope it makes you feel good, all the best to you, but it's irrelevant, it doesn't change anything for me.

NO, I feel like i have been shafted by someone who acted like my friend and someone who i have helped a LOT over the years.

I found out you were ripping me off, i believed you when you said you would stop and i let it go and continued to be friendly towards you, but you continued to rip me off.

You then try and make me look like the bad one. Thats why i think the words "naive" and "immature" really suit you and why i wouldnt trust you as far as i could throw you.

Keith.

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Steve, in case you were to read this...

I wasnt being biased or against you in anyway, I just wanted to know the truth.

Stand your ground if your not in the wrong.

I would be really pissed off if someone said something to this degree about me that wasnt true. I certainly wouldnt just leave the place/forum... that really doesnt look good.





OldKen, I wish to officially withdraw my membership from this place. I have logged in for the last time to make this post.

Best Wishes to you all and you know where you can get me if need be.

Steve :rolleyes:thumbsup
 
I would have thought it goes without saying, but I think it is prudent if you are going to accuse someone of recasting you could at least have some good proof to back up those claims. One picture tells a thousand words but so far this threads has about six million words and very few pictures.

So far the only photo offered up to "prove" Helmetman recast someone else's work is this:

HanvsHan.jpg


And these two look NOTHING alike.

To Keith, and any others who believe Helmetman has recast your original work, please post some actual proof, highlighting some of the tells that might make it possible to determine a match between your original and any potential recasts.

Normally, sending this kind of proof directly to the staff privately would be preferable, but since this has become a public lynch mob I don't think it is unreasonable to expect you to put up or shut up right here in this thread. If you are going to publicly accuse another member of a bannable offence you'd better be prepared to back up your serious claims with serious proof.

If these claims can be substantiated, then I think we all know how this is going to end up. If they cannot be proven, then not only do many people owe Helmetman an apology, but the slander and lynch mob tactics against Helmetman will most likely be identified by the staff as flaming and dealt with accordingly.

From this point forward this thread should be used for posting photographic proof by those members directly involved. No additional commentary is necessary, please. These are serious accusations, and I don’t want important information getting lost in the shuffle or drowned in circumstantial claims.
 
I can send as many photos to the mods as they would like to see. No problem there. Is helmetman going to send any photos though?
If he is, lets see some close ups of the eyes, under the chin, left side and right side views from Steve.

I'll say this. It wouldnt bother me one bit if someone posted a thread here saying i recast their stuff and if i was making and selling trooper helmets, it wouldnt bother me if people here asked where the molds came from.
IF I HAD NOTHING TO HIDE.

I sure as hell would not just leave the rpf. IF I HAD NOTHING TO HIDE.

I'm sure by leaving he just means he won't be going under the name helmetman again. Just like he has at least three different ebay accounts
i'm sure he will have another rpf account.

Keith.
 
OK, I had a spare 30 mins and thought this was worth doing. Lets have some photos here.

Keith, if I had something to hide, I wouldn't have even owned up would I? I'd have scarpered immediately. The reason I wished to leave this joint yesterday is because I'm disgusted at your 'lynch mob' self absorbed tactics. I feel like I'm in the middle ages with this witch hunt!

I have been a member here since 2005, and when this is over, an apology would be nice.

HanvsHan.jpg

Han Solo Pattern
As the mods have already stated, my Han looks bugger all like CKings Han Solo! With all due respect to my own source/sculptor, mine is nowhere near as good as CKings. That being said, I think it's still a good likeness. So that's one for me!


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PH Arnold
Correct, I did buy a PH Arnold from DBlank, you all saw me paint the thing and add it to my mini mannequin, it's no secret. However, after initial inspection of the bust, I noticed the 'endo eye' was squishy. It had not been mixed correctly and the resin had not hardened.

When I contacted DBlank about this, in a friendly manner, he asked I pay for another. I PAY FOR ANOTHER plus shipping!

His product, his mistake - but I have the further expense? Give me a break. Do you know how much that thing cost me? I was disgusted.

So as a result of that, I found another source in the US who also has access to a PH bust, cheaper (no, you are not the centre of the universe DBlank), intitally, he sorted me with a replacement 'endo eye' so I could proceed with my project, then as we became friendlier, we cut a deal about selling his busts.

They look the same because they both came from a PH statue guys! You don't need a degree to see this! Arnold looks like Arnold. So that's two!


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Terminator 1 Arnold
DBlank you are really stretching your point here. I can confidently state that I am the ONLY person to offer this T1 pattern. You got out and try and find me another person. You state that it was derived from your PH Arnold? Incorrect. I was there when my friend and sculptor made this item and can categorically state that it is not from your bust. Wafer thin point DBlank. Thats three!


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Predator 2 helmet
You only have to hit google to see how many people are offering these things. Either on ebay or through websites, Frontier Models offered them for a while, so did Gremlynz, countless others. Do they all stem from your source Keith? Are you the only person to source a Predator 2 helmet?

The world is a big place. As Frosty has rightly stated, he has owned helmets with the chin detail that didn't come from you. Loads of people have! There are alot of them knocking around.

Pred2.jpg

Pred3.jpg


As already stated, if you can show me without a shadow of doubt that my helmet comes from yours, then I'll stand corrected and stop making it. Until then nothing changes. How self obsessed does an individual have to be to think all roads lead back to him? You sound like a certain banned member.


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Stormtrooper helmet
Speaking of which....oh come on guys. Heavyweights such as yourself suggesting that my helmet is from TE's lid? I thought you knew your stuff. Mine has never touched a TE helmet, ever. Makes me chuckle to think you're all scrabbling around trying to frame me with that label.

HM2.jpg


Ask yourself a question, why would someone who is a part of this board, try to move recasts of a banned member? I've already stated that I have had access to things you know nothing about (the ROTJ background lid for instance). So some faith here would be nice

HM3.jpg


It's such a shame that it has to come to this. Certain elitist individuals can't stand that other people have access to items too, then offer them to folk. That's the bottom line here. You see me as treading on your toes, invading your little clique of elistism. Well I have news for you, you are not the ONLY individuals with access to really great stuff.

There will be no more posts from me until this gets resolved. It's now up to the mods to decide what happens.

Best wishes, Steve

www.bay12replicas.co.uk
 
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Ok so I thought I was through with this thread...
As far as I'm concerned this has nothing to do with being part of a 'lynch mob', I'm not part of any group, I'm not part of a mob.
I'm not a vendor of anything nor affiliated with anyone.
I really feel insulted being called so, especially by people who don't know me at all.

Personally I always give people the benefit of the doubt.
It's nothing personnal it's more about logic actually.

So you say you had access to an Original Background ROTJ trooper helmet.
your friend, let you took apart a 14k/ 15k£ helmet so you can mold it.
Ok fine others have done it, no probs so far.
he'd let you take the risk to damage this rather rare helmet (only 3 others know in private hands) take away the foam and the other bits (only known by a handfull of people) and possibly perma damage the inside of it in the molding process... So far so good other people have done it.
However he won't let you show one single photo of it (privately, watermarked, through the pm system, we are not talking about maximum exposure here like ebay) to members who would give their words not to redistribute any further...

Sorry I find it hard to believe, perhaps if I'm wrong and if I'm shown a photo prooving otherwise I'll apologize.

(Same thing for your other helmet/source....
If it makes you chuckle..... why use the name TE in your ebay adds then, you know it will brings you this kind of reaction/suspicion.
BTW The argument of TE being a banned member doesn't hold as his molds are in the possesion of two person that ARE members of this board.)

helmetman2yh3.jpg




With all due respect this is NOT a background ROTJ helmet, I think I know a little about Background ROTJ helmets, and there is a good reason for that (just ask my friend John or Joe, two owners of Original Background helmets).

Anybody can see this has the caracteristics of a reworked 'hero' ROTJ helmet.
Let's say the use of the term 'background' was a mistake and this was still to be from an original, I find it difficult to believe that
a first generation casting directly taken of an original would produce such a soft helmet especially in the frown area.

Helmetman supposed 1st gen trooper helmet.
helmetmanpo1.jpg


TE ROTJ faceplate helmetman aka trooperlids72 acquired on ebay.
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If you show me a Honda don't expect me to tell you it is an Aston Martin just because you're talented in other fields.

I'm sorry but you'll agree that there are a lot coincidence: you were involved in big flame wars with TE on the RPB under the screen name trooperlids72, and 2/3 years later you're found selling resin helmets on ebay using the TE name as a search feature.

You sold a CO ROTJ(fan made trooper helmet), and I seem to remember trooperlids72 finding a TE ROTJ faceplate on ebay and showing of what he had done with it on the RPB :
http://p085.ezboard.com/ROTJ-Helmet...kproppartyfrm2.showMessage?topicID=1454.topic
and then 2 years later you claim to have molded an original background
helmet and the result looks nothing like one.


Once again you'll never hear from me again if you privately show one single photo, watermarked, of the original/source helmet and I will apologize.
 
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HanvsHan.jpg

Han Solo Pattern
As the mods have already stated, my Han looks bugger all like CKings Han Solo! With all due respect to my own source/sculptor, mine is nowhere near as good as CKings. That being said, I think it's still a good likeness. So that's one for me!

I said it looks to be recasts of cking's indiana jones bust. You're showing pictures of Howard's Han Solo. I'm talking about the bust sculpted by Tom and Joy Snyder for cking. I PM'd cking he can chime in if he wants.

T2head.jpg

PH Arnold
Correct, I did buy a PH Arnold from DBlank, you all saw me paint the thing and add it to my mini mannequin, it's no secret. However, after initial inspection of the bust, I noticed the 'endo eye' was squishy. It had not been mixed correctly and the resin had not hardened.

When I contacted DBlank about this, in a friendly manner, he asked I pay for another. I PAY FOR ANOTHER plus shipping!

His product, his mistake - but I have the further expense? Give me a break. Do you know how much that thing cost me? I was disgusted.

So as a result of that, I found another source in the US who also has access to a PH bust, cheaper (no, you are not the centre of the universe DBlank), intitally, he sorted me with a replacement 'endo eye' so I could proceed with my project, then as we became friendlier, we cut a deal about selling his busts.

They look the same because they both came from a PH statue guys! You don't need a degree to see this! Arnold looks like Arnold. So that's two!

You bought the bust from me and now you're selling copies of it. Your excuse is someone is the US is sending copies to the UK for you to sell? B.S. you bought the bust from me and you recast it.

The eye is another story, you Pm'd be saying everything was great and even commenting that it was strong then weeks later asked for another eye. I figured you just damaged the eye while drilling the hole so I asked you to either send me back the "squishy" eye and I'd send you a free one or pay for shipping for a free one. I think you even posted my PM's in your old thread where I said that. Also the eye has nothing to do with you selling copies of the bust I sold you.


T1head.jpg

Terminator 1 Arnold
DBlank you are really stretching your point here. I can confidently state that I am the ONLY person to offer this T1 pattern. You got out and try and find me another person. You state that it was derived from your PH Arnold? Incorrect. I was there when my friend and sculptor made this item and can categorically state that it is not from your bust. Wafer thin point DBlank. Thats three!

Your photos clearly show that the T1 was made by (poorly) sculpting over the bust I sold you. Is this where you needed the extra eye? Your excuse for this is it "was produced by a fellow prop maker here in the UK." just like the guy in the USA that wants you to sell the battle damage version. People must ask you to sell Terminator busts on ebay for them a lot!
 
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