DUNE (1984) Crysknife and sheath

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goldcylon

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I have one of these I haven't finished yet. But I have never had one the sheaf. The sleeper must awaken. Subscribed
 

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rickhoward

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So... remember when I wrote "never say never"? :p

The same friend who pestered me into finishing this project recently put a bug in my ear about doing kits... and suggested utilizing a modern technological solution to help facilitate that and make things easier - i.e. 3D scanning my patterns, using 3D modeling to generate a consistent wall thickness for the sheath, bumping the size up slightly (to correct for generational shrinkage of the production-lineage piece that I started with), and then 3D printing master patterns that would then be molded to produce the kits.

I dug out my original patterns the other day - I figured that while we're at it, we might as well re-do the original knife as well (if only to correct for the shrinkage issue).

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Don't have a time frame for all of this at the moment, but I will update if/when things start to become clearer...
Love this.
 

Uridium

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Jumped in to comment how awesome the pics in the OP look, and to say your work... (while a little slow, 11 years :p ) is amazing!!!

Watching this thread for news of a run!
 

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The 48th Ronin

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"Phase 2" has begun.

Well... the first step, anyway.

Before I sent the patterns off to my friend I wanted to clean them up a bit, and while I was at it I thought I'd poke around online to see if I could find any new or unseen (to me) pics of the knives. Way back when (2000 - 2001), when I first fixed up the crysknife casting that I had gotten from an old friend, there were a few grainy pics available, but there really wasn't a whole lot out there. 20 years later I found some stuff that has been very illuminating...

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Like these press kit and marketing photos :

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That last one was particularly useful in that it's a nice side view of the knife, and I could scale it based on Kyle MacLachlan's hand to get a better estimate of the true size. Also, these pics showed me that I needed to make the triangle piece on the buttcap thicker.

I also discovered a YouTube video that had excised footage from the deleted Shadout Mapes scene - I had never seen this particular footage before and it revealed that the knife in that scene didn't have a metal collar on the blade! Who knew?! :oops: Not me! This was definitely a huge revelation.

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This footage also convinced me that the end of the buttcap on this particular knife was angled, very much like the original concept drawing.

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I had wondered about this for years, since you can definitely get that impression from this old pic in The DUNE Storybook:

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I don't know how else to explain the extreme profile of the buttcap as it appears in this shot:

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I decided to go back to square one and start again with a spare casting of the original crysknife, since I had significantly altered the shape of the knife during the first go-round. I got rid of the collar, reshaped the "hump" of the blade a tiny bit, as well as the blade/grip transition area, and modified the buttcap.

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Deciding what the angle on the buttcap should be was a bit of a challenge, since its appearance changes throughout the scene, depending upon the knife's orientation relative to the camera. So it was best guess, basically.

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I also grafted a piece onto the sheath pattern and corrected the angle of the collar.

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So I got those sorted and they were good to go.

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Right after the revelation of the YouTube video, I also happened upon a pic of a screen used crysknife that had been auctioned off a couple years back.

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My friend found the rest of the photos in the set and a google image search led to the archived auction page:

Dune - Fremen Crysnife

Those pics confirmed that the triangle on the buttcap definitely needed to be thicker. And in all of my staring at pics and watching of video clips I came to the conclusion that the blade was short on the casting that I got from my friend back in 2000 (which I had suspected for a while). Using this pic, which is of an alleged "blood FX" knife from the production...

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...I scaled it up and confirmed it:

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So I grafted a piece onto the end of the blade, did some reshaping, and rectified that discrepancy.

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So then this one was good to go as well.

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Anyway, the patterns shipped out this morning, so things are in play...
 

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