Drama-free Proton Pack build...

Discussion in 'Replica Props' started by GeneralFROSTY, Dec 12, 2011.

  1. GeneralFROSTY

    GeneralFROSTY Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I'm going to have to load up on Advil because this project is going to give me plenty of headaches.

    Having recently finished my Rocketeer jetpack, I have enough confidence to start looking at the Proton Pack - a considerably more complicated prop to build.

    Having joined the GB Fans forum, I am still in the "research" mode, but have already made a number of kit part purchases (Nickatron) and will be starting with the Proton Gun (aka Particle Thrower, aka Neurtono Wand) and treat it as its own individual prop build.

    My intent is to install a light kit (Jupiter Electronics on Ebay) and corresponding sound kit (CRIX, also on Ebay). Since installing electronics scares to heck out of me, I will be sure to go slow and do my homework.

    Why is my thread titled "Drama-free" you ask?
    I won't go into details, but lets just say I feel more safe posting a build thread here than over at GB Fans for the time being....

    Once I start getting parts in the mail, I can post photos and such.
    I'd like to keep my thread positive, so if you have experience building a Proton Pack and would like to contribute suggestions and support, please feel free!
     
  2. Rusty85

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    Haha, yep some of the guys over there can be sticklers. Starting with the gun first is interesting, most everyone I know starts with the pack first. Good luck though, let me know if I can help with anything. The research alone takes quite a while.
     
  3. slave1pilot

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    It's not that they are sticklers, it's that there are some real a-holes there.
     
  4. protokev DMD

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    I've built three, with all the bells and whistles, so if you have any questions I'll try to help.

    There's so many ways to skin the cat that it's hard to just blanket suggest without questions being posed
     
  5. Mooniteman

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    2nd that.
     
  6. Weequay

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    Good luck with the build mate!

    It is a massive shame that GB fans is the way it is. As said, it it mostly due to a small number of total * holes, and bandwagon jumpers :)

    Much safer here :)

    Weequay
     
  7. EvilRocketeer

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    Sounds like the perfect place for you ;) I keed I Keed

    Anyways, I guess you can add me to the list of people trying/in process to complete a proton pack

    I just got this shell a few days ago......It's the best shell on the market right now. I recommend it..The BowelRock
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  8. Onkelpsycho

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    Yep, good luck...

    Still having a shell somewhere, I have to finish... I start with the backpack itself... It looks a lot easiert than the gun.

    I want to add light and sound at the end, also thought about to purchase a "ready to build in lights" gun, because Im not very talented with small parts, drilling small holes here and there, and put tiny cable through...

    Hell, I'm a man. Building Jurassic Park T-Rex Fence Diorama in 1:1. :lol Bigger is better.

    But serious: Sometimes I think, people can't do something wrong with all these kits available...

    What scares me, is the paint job. I have bad memories here...

    So, I hope this time the paint job will be easier and better...

    Till now the loss was not to high... I just destroyed a HGA and a booster frame :rolleyes * driller... :angry

    :)

    anyway, good luck... If you need help, Im sure here are some ghostheads, who are willing to help:

    First you should start with this thread, very helpful and best reference for your own build:

    V71 MarkX builds UPDATED 10/03 My pack done w/ CRIX sound - Community - Ghostbusters Fans Forum
     
  9. Luke Warmwater

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    I joined GBFans forum to do my homework on the pack and was turned off by the outright meanness there. I haven't been back since I completed my costume.
     
  10. Dakarn

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    GBFans is great for reference material but forget asking questions and such.

    Did my build about a year ago including lights and sound - almost from the same sources as yours. Just installed a Crix soundboard, have Jupiter gun lights and zombierepellant pack lights. More than happy to answer any questions you have.
     
  11. slave1pilot

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  12. Mxlplx

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    I'm in the same boat here, been collecting parts for nearly 10 years! Yeah, I know, get to building! I've been a member on GBfans since it's inception, but have maybe 5 posts. I like the collective we have here!
     
  13. oblagon

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    Built a few proton packs this year and it's not as difficult of a project as it looks. Just be sure to measure everything a few times before drilling, plan things out before mounting and you'll be fine.
    Sounds like you already picked up a Nick-a-tron thrower; if you decide to go the aluminum route this seller comes highly recommended. Welcome to Dimensional Fabrications - Fabrication Taken To The Next Dimension
     
  14. GeneralFROSTY

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    I'd like to quote everyone in my reply, but that will just get my post looking too repeatative - so I want to extend a very sincere THANK YOU to all my trusted fellow RPFers.
    I knew I wasn't making a mistake posting this thread here. It seems there are far too many folks over there that would sooner cuss you out before offering any encouragement or support. Very sad.
    You know, we have a saying over at COW: "Come for the gear, stay for the people".
    How true that is.
    I'm starting with the wand first as I want to get the most complicated thing out of the way. I have the kit on order from Nickatron and getting the remainder of the parts from MulitMediaMayem.
    Once I have everything I need, I will start posting progress photos and invite all of you experienced Ghostheads to join in and offer feedback and support.
    If anything, this thread can help any newbies to building the pack see how it is done from start to finish without having to feel stupid for asking questions elsewhere.
     
  15. Paranormal

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    Can't wait to watch your progress Frosty, hopefully I can get mine started soon as well, shooting for January. Like you said, aspirin will be a good friend lol. Thanks for the recommendation btw. Love the forum so far!
     
  16. tripoli

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    Yep, GBfans can get a bit rabid there. The Ohio guys seem to be extremely fractured when it comes to trying to get them together, just shocked me over at the GB board that they can be so inhospitable at times.

    Great to be a GB fan here as most of the RPF just loves to build and collect in general and there are enough members her that you will almost always find a helpful person when you need such.

    Good luck on getting the pack done, its not as hard as everyone makes it out to be, just a bit intimidating when you build your first one. I hope to work on my fourth one this spring as well, been slowly putting away parts and pieces myself for the next one.
     
  17. Onkelpsycho

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    Maybe, if you have questions, you can also try Proptopia...

    It was my first prop forum, I've joined... Its small, but if you have a questions you always get an answer, even if it takes sometimes a few days...
     
  18. RedSpecial

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    Hi GeneralFROSTY, It sounds like you're on the right track so far (Nickatron's stuff is gorgeous)
    I started with the wand too, its a great starting point and you'll pick up a ton of techniques that you can use for the main build, which should make it a heck of alot easier in the long run.
    The best advice that I can offer is just to do as much research as you can.
    The Proton pack is one of those props that has so many little quirks and details that are easy to miss.
    Also don't be afraid to ask questions, no matter how daft you might think the question is 99% of the time someone will have the answer you need.
    I know it can be quite daunting but its always good to break these things down into to-do lists.
    that way you can use your time effectively and make sure that everything comes together the way you want it to.

    Good luck with the build, I'll be following it closely :)

    Oh and thanks for the kind comments on my build album ;)
     
  19. GeneralFROSTY

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    Great to see you guys here! So happy you took my recommendation to join, Paranormal!

    You kinda have to be careful asking questions over at GB Fans, and thanks to Tripoli for his advice here as well!

    Here is where I am at with parts n such:
    Ordered from Nickatrons website Nickatron props | Movie prop replica specialists
    -Gun kit
    -Booster frame
    -Ion arm
    -Bumper
    -Pack hose set
    -Resin Clippard R331 (though I think I may buy a real one)
    -Resin pack resistor set (Would have preferred real ones, but the way I paint, these will look just as good!)
    -Hollow-cast HGA
    -Metal handles (for particle thrower)
    I've also purchased a complete set of brass fittings and Legris elbows (the modern-day replacement versions) from GBF member JayStantz.
    The elusive "straight fittings" were purchased from the GBF Shop.
    From GBF member jimbo7 I have on order a machined aluminum Tip Converter (for the particle thrower)
    I am currently on the wait list of GBF member DL4567 for his gorgeous fiberglass pack shell which should be available for me in about a month or two.
    I am waiting to hear back from Colin at www.multimediamayem.net about purchasing all the additional parts for the particle thrower that is NOT included with Nick's kit. He is getting a price quote ready for me.
    Jupiter Electronics Jupiter Electronics - TV and movie props will be customizing a full pack and wand light kit for me. Their wand light kit does not come standard with two of the six lights on the gun, so I am having them custom wire up the extra lights.
    Contrary to what was sold before, these kits now come standard with the correct DPDT switches to allow intergration with a sound kit.
    I am planning on purchasing the sound kit from on CRIX (aka heavyprops on eBay) Ghostbusters Proton Pack SOUND KIT Electronics! | eBay

    So that is where I am at! Sorry for the super-long post. Until I get items and photos to share, it helps me figure all this out by talking about it and getting my thoughts organized.
     
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  20. Rusty85

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    You should do a good "How To" on connecting the sound chip and light kit, those are probably the same ones I'll be using and frankly it scares me to think of installing it all :eek
     
  21. GeneralFROSTY

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    Rusty, you and I seem to be a lot alike. It scares the **** out of me! The last time I tried wiring something up, I gave up on the project so I am very scared based on my track record.

    But I AM 100% commited with this one and will be sure to post detailed photos explaining my process as best I can.
    Thank you for your support.
     
  22. Hotshot

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    I could tell you stories that would curl your hair . . . .
     
  23. protokev DMD

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    I must warn you that the MMM parts are going to pale in comparison to nicks. MMM is a nice guy, but his casts leave some to be desired.
     
  24. GeneralFROSTY

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    I'm down to have my hair curled. Fire away at those stories!

    I am well aware of MMMs reputation with garage-kit quality parts - fortunately, I am getting very few items from him and they are all parts that can easily be cleaned up. If I were getting his gun body, I may be worried more - I have seen buyer pics of his raw kit and YES, it does look to need a lot of TLC.
     
  25. Mr.Spider

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    Ive built 4 packs myself scratch built and shells ... Using all kinds of parts and scratch bits etc... Gbfans can be rough, just gotta have a roughskin.

    Good luck to you on the build, anything i can help with let me know : )


    Feel free to over look over my build threads as i have a recipe for a shock mount using washers and black foam sheets ... Cheap and easy lol
     
  26. Norse Iron Man

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    I wish you the best of luck with this project! I loved working on my pack, still do, it never seems to stay in one piece, I always have to repair the *. Most of the resin pieces on my pack is from MMM, and you won't be hearing complaints from me. Perhaps because I'm not a stickler for accuracy, lol.
     
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  27. GeneralFROSTY

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    I gotta say guys, when I first posted this thread I was really crossing my fingers that I made the right choice. Seeing how people reacted over on GBF, I was a little worried that the over-serious attitude would be found here regarding this topic but I am SO relieved my fellow RPF brothers are totally on board!

    If you knew me personally, you would know I suffer from ADD and some learning issues so a project as complicated as this really makes my head spin - but if it turns out as good as my Rocketeer pack build, I think I will be OK - just need alot of time and patience....and help!
     
  28. Mr.Spider

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    When I built my first one I had NO idea what I was doing , and I also have slight ADD and OCD, I just broke it down into pieces and worked on one part at a time , then assembled, to this day I do that .


    Afterall , it's jyst a bunch of boxes mounted to a motherboard : p lol
     
  29. AJ Quick

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    Good luck with the build. Looks like we've helped you pick out some better quality parts (despite people arguing). Let me know if you need any more help.
     
  30. GeneralFROSTY

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    The pack I'm really not concerned about anymore - I've stared at enough pictures and read through enough forum threads where I finally got a handle of it to the point where I can look at a picture of a pack and say "Ok, I know what those parts are" and not feel visually overwhelmed.

    Right now, my focus is on the wand - specifically, getting all the electronics to work with it.

    If someone could answer a question for me, I notice that one of the lights on the gunbox, next to the vent, is a large white flat piece, sometimes it is a standard light hat or clip.
    If the flat piece is the more accurate version, where do you get them?
    Is it an LED cover (ie, does it snap onto the LED directly) or does the LED just get mounted below it?
    Am I making sense?
    Maybe I've been at this too long.
    I should grab a bowl of Capn Cruch and watch some IT Crowd...
     
  31. Rusty85

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    I think the only part that really needed a little work is the HGA from MMM. Its nice and all, but the circular part on the side isn't really round. An easy fix though, I just sanded mine off and glued a washer on. I haven't been onto his site lately but last time I looked it hadn't been changed. The Ion Arm Assembly is nice too. I've heard a few complaints about the fake weld lines but I think they're pretty cool myself. I also bought the filler tubes, wiring, Injectors, and PPD from Colin and they all seemed great.

    Which route are you going with your pack Frosty? GB1 or GB2?
     
  32. Rusty85

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  33. Mr.Spider

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    You can use either a whit hat light such as the orange one placed on the end but installed from under the wand to just expose the flat portion.... Which is SA ..... Or what some of us do on te cheap is go to the furniture isles and find those little clear " feet " with sticky backs and put those on top .... I forget the name for the life of me
     
  34. GeneralFROSTY

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    AHA! It's funny you mention the 'little clear feet' (I don't know what they are called either) but I was thinking how it looked like those.
    We use something similar on our Dexter boxes....wait....it might be the SAME thing...I will have to look.

    I can see this thread going on for a while - I will be updating with photos every step of the way, ensuring that I have the best feedback and suggestions from those who have been there.
    I don't forsee myself making another pack after this, so I'd like to get it right the first time if possible - and I don't presume to be an arrogant person thinking I can build one to the quality that long-time pack builders have, I just have the advantage of being able to take my time and receive great support here.
     
  35. Mr.Spider

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    "I don't forsee myself making another pack after this"


    LIES !!!!!! lol


    that's exactly what I said.
     
  36. Mr.Spider

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    here we go..... found a pic.....


    2nd pack...


    here is it with the "feet" light ( this is a MMM gun body)

    [​IMG]



    and here is the SA in either orange or white... depending on the shot and movie.


    4th pack.... ( Throwing Chicken Gun body )

    [​IMG]
     
  37. GeneralFROSTY

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    Thank you for posting the reference photos!
    When I get everything I need, I will upload pics and take it ONE STEP at a time!
     
  38. DS Operative

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    I'm looking forward to watching your progress Frosty. A proton pack is on my bucket list and I'm intimidated like you, but would like to do it at least 95% right the first time and not have to do it again. I hope I learn some tricks watching this thread.

    Forgive my ignorance please-- but I was wondering if there was such thing as a rubber shell available, that could then be fitted with electronics and filled with foam for rigidity? Has anybody tried this or is it even feasible?
     
  39. GeneralFROSTY

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    Not sure if anyone has done a rubber shell yet, that can get kind of expensive I think because of the chemicals involved, not sure though.
    I guess you're wanting a stunt pack of some kind?
    If you want it lighter, there are a few who do vacume-formed shells which is much lighter than the fiberglass ones, though the details will be slightly softer.
     
  40. Dakarn

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    I'll post my lights and sounds photos and offer some tips when I get a chance.

    Lights and sound seem rough but they aren't. Hardest part is getting the switches set and running the wiring.

    I'm converting my pack to 12v all across to use with a big lithium cell I purchased off of ebay, hoping I don't blow anything up lol.
     
  41. GeneralFROSTY

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    PS:
    I have been looking over this sellers thread at GB Fans and really floored at the quality of the parts he offers:
    Anhcon's Proton Pack Parts - Community - Ghostbusters Fans Forum
    I'm seriously considering buying the additional parts I need from him, including the forward wand tip assembly, since Nick's kit does not include the frosted tube or the tip converter...
     
  42. Rusty85

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    He definitely has some high quality parts, if I had the cash I'd definitely pick up some of his stuff.
     
  43. Hotshot

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    Yep . . .[​IMG]


    This pup is alllllll rubber with a rigid foam skeleton. Weighs about 5 pounds.
     
  44. Bowelrock

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    The RPF is perfect for a Drama free build. non of that crap they pull on GBfans will ever fly here. Plus you will have all the support you need to build your pack On the RPF. Gbfans is really only good for reference and they occasional odd part from a seller that's about it.


    HOTSHOT!!!!!!!! I WANT ON OF THOSE * STUNT PACKS!!!!!!!!!! :p
     
  45. AJ Quick

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    Remember to read Feedback. Especially in regard to the time it takes to ship.
     
  46. DS Operative

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    Wow-- looks great and obviously very light! Are you able to place electronics & lights inside one of these?
     
  47. GeneralFROSTY

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    yup, one step ahead of you. I am aware of his shipping being ketchup speed, but you gotta figure hes crafting metal parts and so far, hes seemed to always deliver what was paid for.
    I am waiting on a reply from him so hopefully I can get the ball rolling.
     
  48. GeneralFROSTY

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    A question:
    What kind of screws/bolts (whatever you call them, I gotta learn) that hold the forward pipe of the wand to the gun body - I see a pair of these used but I think this is used to hold other parts of the pack together. Please help me identify:
    [​IMG]
     
  49. Galactica53

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    Allen cap head screws :)

    Glad to see another Ghosthead on here :)


     
  50. GeneralFROSTY

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    AHA!! And is that a washer under it?
     

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