[Downloadable] My Kylo Ren's Hilt 3D model

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  1. levallois

    levallois New Member

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    Hi, this is my first test of the 3D model : Kylo Ren's Hilt (start yesterday) W.I.P.

    You can watch the 3D model on sketchgfab. (you can zoom in, turn around, display wireframe...)

    Updated 2015/05/05
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    I need critics and some new pictures about the "back side".
    Anyone can help.

    Edit :
    Download link : click on folder →
    3Dfolder.png
     
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  2. KaanE

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    Re: My Kylo Ren's Hilt 3D model

    I think it looks pretty accurate actually. I would love to see some side by side pictures with the original one. Also, are you sure about doing the sidesabers bent? I think straight is more what it's going to look (appart from the FOAM one). Also, are you going to add the cutout?
     
  3. levallois

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    Re: My Kylo Ren's Hilt 3D model

    Thanks,
    for the sidesaber bent, I don't know exacly if I'll do or not, because, in the pictures this not seem exactly horizontal (straight)...

    I'll do the comparaison pictures/3D model in the next week ( it's time to dinner now, and the Week-end is the PC's off time :) )

    In the first time I only do the uncutout hilt.
    but, if i have time for this, I will do an other model with cutout.
     
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  4. MasterEdi

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    Re: My Kylo Ren's Hilt 3D model

    This is awesome!!!...looks great! Here's a link to some video I shot at C7! ... Hope it helps
     
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  5. levallois

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    Re: My Kylo Ren's Hilt 3D model

    Thanks a lot, I will investigate this video.

    I updated my model.
    You can watch it here :

    LINK
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  6. levallois

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    Re: My Kylo Ren's Hilt 3D model

    This is the comparaison between Picture of Celebration. and my 3D model.

    [​IMG][​IMG] - png with alpha [​IMG]

    [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG] - png with alpha[​IMG]

    New version online :
    (with straight emitters)

    [​IMG]
     
  7. KaanE

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    Re: My Kylo Ren's Hilt 3D model

    Are you going to make this one avaiable? Or maybe mould it?
     
  8. levallois

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    Re: My Kylo Ren's Hilt 3D model

    If you want the 3D model just tell me by Private Message what kind of extension you need. I used Softimage XSI to do this one.
    So I can export in several extention.
    obj, xsi, emdl, dae, fbx, Point oven Lwo.
    I can make sketchup file too :) (.skp)
    But, the model is not finished yet.

    But I do not know if my modeling is good for printing...
     
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  9. KaanE

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    PM incoming then.
     
  10. teragon

    teragon Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    That's a pretty awesome job ! I was going to take a shot at it myself, but I don't think I can do better. Or even as good. PM definitely incoming as I'd love to try to print that, once I get my printer back. That sketchfab site is dope too, I didn't even know there was such a thing.
     
  11. JJ Griffin

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    Re: My Kylo Ren's Hilt 3D model

    If it's watertight, it should be printable (in theory), depending on wall thickness of course. Is the inside of the model hollow?
     
  12. ARKM

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    Re: My Kylo Ren's Hilt 3D model

    levallois, There are a lot of people now making 3D models of this saber, mostly for 3D printing. Out of all of them, I noticed that yours is the only one with the bottom half of the handle, slightly offset from the top half, just like the prop that was on display at Celebration Anaheim 2015. In other words, in at least that one way, your render is more accurate than others when compared to that particular prop...

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    However, I personally believe that, like the drooping side blade emitters, this is a defect on that specific prop and does not represent the way the hero prop will be shown In Episode 7 (I also firmly believe that the prop at Celebration is indeed 3D printed and not a rubber cast as many have suggested, due to all the tiny plastic looking strands coming off of it in the close up photos. Rubber would not have that.). Just something to think about.
     
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  13. KaanE

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    Re: My Kylo Ren's Hilt 3D model

    Rubber would have that if it was a cast of a 3D printed master.
     
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  14. JJ Griffin

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    Yeah, I don't understand what he is saying. Look at the horrifically ugly seams running right down the side of it (including the emitters). It is clear it is a cast of a master. Given the softness of the details and the sagging of the emitter shrouds under their own weight it is almost assuredly rubber. The "strands" are just flecks or dust and lint that it likely picked up, as I've never seen even a low-quality 3D print have that as a result of the printing or clean-up process.
     
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  15. ARKM

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    I disagree. There are way too many fine strands coming off that hilt. I don't anyone getting a rubber pull of those tiny fine strands. Also, why lie on the plague at the convention? There's no good, logical reason to.

    I admit, there are things that make it look cast other than the what I have already stated and it's hard to imagine a 3D printer messing up that badly. I could be wrong... but it's the plague and those strands that convince me otherwise. Does it really matter if I'm right or wrong? Nope. Regardless, that's not the main point I'm trying to get across here. The offset of the bottom half of the handle is.
     
  16. KaanE

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    No lies. Maybe they got a problem and had to change the Hero for a Stunt one. Just a simple change. I have seen too many of these through the exhibits. Also, the guy who made the weapons would have never made this piece of casted crap as a 3d printed Hero lightsaber, unless he's a fourteen years old garage maker and, trust me, he's not.
     
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  17. JJ Griffin

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    Maybe we are confused about what you are referencing. Can you provide a photo of these "fine strands"? Because all I have ever seen close-up is dust and lint (like at the top of the center emitter hole). That's not from 3D printing, whether they used FDM or SLA.

    20150417-exhibition-kylo-schwert-02-bg.jpg

    There are no crisp, clean details on this thing, which leads me to believe it is a mold. Even my $2,200 FDM can print at better resolution and conciseness than this. I can't imagine that something like this is the best that LFL/Disney could muster as a 3D printed prop. I would put money down on it being a stunt cast of a hero version.
     
  18. ARKM

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    Geez guys. I make one off-hand comment and you all freak out. It's just my personal belief. Whether I'm right or wrong has zero bearing on how to go about making a render of the hilt or making that render into a real hilt as I'm quite sure, that is not the hero prop. As for the strands, if I'm wrong, then they are indeed lint.

    If this were a vocal conversation, the OP would have completely missed my actual point due to the nice magician trick of misdirection, lol.
     
  19. JJ Griffin

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    It wasn't really an off-hand comment, the entire second paragraph of your post was refuting something that a lot of casters and 3D printers have concluded... KaanE and I saw an explanation that we thought was false (3D printing produces "tiny fine strands" on the print or something) and felt the need to address it...

    But you're right, this has little to do with the modeling. FWIW, I do believe the crossguard is a 90-degree angle, however, due to the way we have seen the saber blades pointed in all the footage/concept art.
     
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  20. KaanE

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    As well as you have the right to post your belief I have mine, so don't freak out and, if you do, don't point at others as being guilty for you taking it personal. Have a good day and relax, it's just a forum, to discuss a prop, from a movie. See the point?

    And yes, I like Jar-Jar.

    I'm sorry for derailing the thread...
     
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  21. ARKM

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    That's funny. I have the exact same sentiment towards you guys. You both seemed to me to be taking this personal and were freaking out over my offhand comment. Regardless, I have no ill will towards you guys so please don't think that. I just don't like it when people focus on things I posted that I consider unimportant instead of the main point I was trying to make.
     
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  22. Sni9er

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    just my 2 cents no way this is a 3d print a cast of a cleaned up 3d print sure but not a direct print from any i've seen before no striations, no ridges nothing to say 3d print and the seam points hugely towards a cast

    all that says is perhaps the saber was printed then cast for the exhibit the plaque says "3d Printed" not "3d Print" :)
     
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  23. levallois

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    Re: My Kylo Ren's Hilt 3D model

    Sketchfab is so cool and works on Mobile device (love that!) ;)

    Tanks for that.

    That is why I decided to make a "Symetric" and "Straight" Hilt Lightsaber here:
    [​IMG]

    Edit :
    I made a "3 parts" model, where you can see the 3 differents pieces for 3D printer.
    small_6401.jpg
     

    Attached Files:

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  24. levallois

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    Re: My Kylo Ren's Hilt 3D model

    Sorry for double posting :

    Few rules before sharing my Kylo Ren Lightsaber Hilt to the RPF users :

    1. This (the 3d model) is a free model,
    2. You can
      • use it
      • modify it
      • and print it
    3. You may sell a physical copy of the saber for the exact amount you spent on making it, no benefits allowed on the sale.
    4. Please give credit whenever you share what you did with my model, using my name and/or sketchfab link.

    Thanks for reading.

    Download link on the folder picture →
    3Dfolder.png

    Tell me if you want another kind of files, or if you have problems with the models.
    Have Fun.

    3Dfolder.png

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  25. GlitchTech

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    Awesome. Time to take your model and see if I can set it up for polycarb blade and electronics.
     
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  26. levallois

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    Re: My Kylo Ren's Hilt 3D model

    I found an Error of modeling on the right (left?) side emmiter , so I redo export for all kind of file.
    (for the stl files, only Body_top will change)

    In one hour it will be over.
    Sorry about it.

    I have a suggestion, would you like the belt clip apart ?
    [​IMG]
     
  27. ARKM

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    The top pic still shows the offset. I should have been more clear, it's a slight horizontal rotation offset on the vertical axis. The position of the pommel fins is what makes that offset stand out. However since you are making the top half of the handle and the bottom of the handle, separate pieces, one can adjust the rotation as they see fit, upon assembly.
     
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  28. levallois

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    I have dubt (again) concerning the rotation offset on vertical axis (like ou said) but not in the same direction.
    I think The Celebration Model is just a copy of a copy (or something like that).It is not so pretty and finished as movie prop.

    when looking at the Frist video trailer, the hilt seem to be perpendicular (tangent) to the belt.
    Flv video extract Link

    So somthing like this :
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    If the belt clip is not perpendicular,
    The problem will be that the emmiter will go against your... buttocks.
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    Edit:
    May be 30° offset is to much

    Edit 2 :

    Thanks.
    I stabilized the video.
    but, it to difficult to see more details.
    Kylo Ren Lightsaber stabilized-backview.avi
     
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  29. Sni9er

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    I say yes to separate clip as I think we will find the original !
     
  30. ARKM

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    That first pic in that post of yours is what I believe the actual hero prop should look like. I believe that the offset of the prop shown at Celebration 2015 is just a flaw of some kind.

    Your second pic shows an offset that is more offset than the prop from Celebration 2015 is so yeah, I think 30 degrees is too much if going for the Celebration 2015 look.
     
  31. Hutton

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    So did you ever print it out and how did it turn out?
     
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