Doomed! Roger Corman Dr Doom mask.

Discussion in 'Marvel Costumes and Props' started by Vandark, Jul 23, 2015.

  1. Vandark

    Vandark Sr Member

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    he's coming!

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  2. Mclabop

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    Wow, very clean looking. Nice job
     
  3. Vandark

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    it's movie mould.... the real deal!

    not my work.
     
  4. Vandark

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    doooom oomph!

    it's the perfect doom mask!

    never moulded a Doom mask before....but gonna be perfect.. cold cast aluminium. velvet interior... leather straps...
     
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  5. Psicorp7

    Psicorp7 Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    ...as in the actual production master? The one they molded for the "movie" mask?
     
  6. Kylash

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    ooooooooh!
     
  7. Vandark

    Vandark Sr Member

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    I don't know what it is to be honest. it's probably a pull from the original mould.
     
  8. HammyDribbler

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    Interested to see how this comes out. Especially if you will sell me one to go with the v2 Legendary Doom Armour I am trying to get finished at the mo.

    Ham out.
     
  9. Igniitus

    Igniitus Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    ....which movie?

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  10. Mr.Spider

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    Wait...... so it's a pull from a mold itself ? So it's a casting. And your molding it...... why ? To make copies ? Are you casting this for personal use, or to sell to people ?

    Either we aren't getting the whole story or this is recasting. Right ?
     
  11. Wes R

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    From the terrible Fantasic Four movie Roger Coreman filmed but never had officially released, it's online though. Oddly enough i like that mask better than the big budget movie masks.
     
  12. Vandark

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    am I doing something wrong? ok, I've had another look at the forum rules. I'm still not really clear on whether this is wrong or not to be honest.

    as far as I am aware, this mask isn't another members work.

    let me know.
     
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  13. Vandark

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    this was a production made item.

    i only really started this thread to document the progress of my limited skills in making a proper wearable version. I've never done molds, casts, finishing etc. before.

    I've had the thing sitting in my collection for about ten years gathering dust! and I finally thought I'd get off my * and try and do something with it! learn some new skills.

    hope the helps?
     
  14. andy19422

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    Hi mate, if it comes from production then I think your OK to cast it:thumbsup
     
  15. Vandark

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    Hey, thanks for your advice!
     
  16. Vandark

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    possible. could it be the foam master?

    it's made from a rigid foam like material. if you scrape the back it kind of crumbles, plus is seems to be seeping a weird brown goo in places as it gets older.
     
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  17. Vandark

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    it's from the 1994 Fantastic Four movie that was never intended for release.

    and Yeh, the movie was bad by today's standards..... but the Doctor Doom costume was actually pretty good!

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  18. HammyDribbler

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    I have to get my hands on this films :) How did you acquire the mold? How did I not acquire the mold ;)

    Really looking forward to see how this turns out. Take lots of process pics as the casting side of things is something I really want to start looking at.

    Ham out!
     
  19. RiotJavelinDX

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    Why is OP being interrogated?
     
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  20. ahoudini

    ahoudini Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Count me in for purchasing a casting if that is the route you go. I love this version of his mask!


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  21. Vandark

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    Here you go........my first real mould. Bit messy, but I think it will work!

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  22. Vandark

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    really struggling to get a clay wall built for the support shell. just can't find any clay locally.... tried chavant and it just wont stay in place!

    this is all part of the learning I suppose.

    I'd do the shell in one piece, but I don't think I'd ever get the mould back out again...
     
  23. Psicorp7

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    If it is just a temp wall, try Play-Doh and tin foil. Cheap and works great. Plus you can throw it away if you want and not feel bad.
    Or like I do, give it to some kids!
     
  24. Vandark

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    great idea! how does it compare to something like sculpey? sculpey sticks to the silicone, but it's very soft.

    I've not used play doh for about 40 years..... does it still smell as good?
     
  25. Notbob

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    I'd almost recommend some polyester fiberglass resin and chopped strand fiberglass. I recently did a mother mold using that stuff and I was super pleased with the results. The polyester resin will break down the fiberglass and you can really form it to the silicone. I think you would need some "keys" on the silicone first. As an added bonus, polyester is relatively cheap. I bought a quart and cloth for $25.
    Good luck with it!
    If you are selling castings of that please count me in!
     
  26. Vandark

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    Thanks for the suggestion!
     
  27. Psicorp7

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    Softer than sculpey but easier to find and cheaper. I have used it on a number of molds to hold temp walls. You can also use sculpey. I use the tin foil to give the edge a bit more structure and the wrinkles make nice keys to fit the two halves together again. Good Luck!

    Yep! Still smells the same!
     
  28. Vandark

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    ok, this is my sculpey wall..... so you think this will work? I'm using plasti paste.

    it's not very smooth, but it's the best I can do with it falling apart! what's the worst that can happen?
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  29. Psicorp7

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    That will do just fine. Just remember to use plenty of the mold release to get a clean removal.
     
  30. Vandark

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    just done a quick toilet paper mother mould to test the water for a one piece shell, haha! to see how easily it will release!

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  31. Vandark

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    I'll have another go tomorrow if the toilet paper doesn't come off.

    BTW, I'm using sonite wax... as release... any good?
     
  32. nick daring

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    Woo hoo! Glad to see this project is finally moving forward!

    I use the sonite way too. Works great!

    Plasti paste is really easy to work with. You should be good to go.

    it looks like you should be able to go with a one piece mother mold. Looks like you put on a thick enough shell of silicon to smooth out all the features. I'll be curious to see how your test goes!

    Can't wait!

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  33. Doombot13

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    This is Fantastic! Looks like you're doing a great job too! And if have have any castings to sell count me in too!


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  34. Vandark

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    should have a final out by the weekend, fingers crossed!
     
  35. Kylash

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    Really loving this!
     
  36. sithlord23

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    Great stuff! Love that version of Doom. Pretty true to the comic look.

    I would also be interested if you do a run! :)
     
  37. Vandark

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    still might have a go at doing the 2 part mould.. haha! it would be lazy to do it in 1.
     
  38. Vandark

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    ok, I've made the support shell as a one piece... but couldn't get the mould or sculpt out of it!

    ended up slicing the shell in two with a dremel! lesson learned.

    luckily, the shell still works!

    I will be doing the first pull tomorrow (monday) fingers crossed!
     
  39. nick daring

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    You should be able to add flanges to the edges of the cut if you wanted to be able to secure them back together.

    Best of luck!
     
  40. HammyDribbler

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    Fingers crossed for a successful outcome! And remember it was me first in the queue :p

    Ham!
     
  41. Vandark

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    I will!
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  42. ahoudini

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    Excellent!


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  43. Doombot13

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    That negative looks awesome!


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  44. Vandark

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    anybody know how much resin I will need to do the first layer?

    I always seem to make too much...
     
  45. andy19422

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    When I did the RA each layer was 120g and I did four layers
     
  46. Vandark

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    so, was that before the metal powder?

    and did you slush it or brush it?
     
  47. andy19422

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    When I did the ones with the metal powders I used 60g A, 60g B and 80g of powder.
     
  48. Vandark

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    nice one! I'll give that a go.
     
  49. Vandark

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    ready to go! this might be basic to some people, but to me it's a momentus occasion!

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  50. Doombot13

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    Good luck! Many people are watching with great anticipation!


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