Does ANYONE Here Know For Sure If These Are Data Chips From Generations

[Petseal]

Quite some time ago I came across an auction that was ending shortly!
The seller claimed that he had 8 acrylic Data Storage Chips, 4 larger clear orange chips and 4 smaller clear yellow chips, used on the film Star Trek Generations! The cards appear to be tinted acrylic with silk screened grey ink lettering and line details!
He claimed they were used in the scene where Kirk is valiantly attempting to save the Enterprise B from certain destruction in the Nexus Cloud! He does so, but at what appears to be the cost of his life and a good sized chunk of hull!
This seller also alluded to the possibility that William Shatner himself may have handled these during the shoot!
He had nothing to substantiate any of his claims but I figured they were inexpensive and they kind of looked cool!
The auction was ending so I decide to take the chance and bid!
After the end of the action and I was the "lucky" winner I could now take the time to check out my DVD of the movie in question!
Yes Kirk moved around a lot of chips in that scene of all shapes and sizes but as far as I could tell not a single one looked even remotely like the two versions I have just won!
Now for the reason of this thread, while scanning threw eBay the other day looking for things "to buy" I came across an auction for the exact same chips I had bought some time ago! The only difference was he had one of each chip this time!
So what I am hoping is that someone on this BB will know for sure, one way or the other, or will know someone who can positively say, YES, they are Star Trek props used on this show, movie, whatever or NO the closest these ever came to Star Trek was being displayed on the same shelf as my ST toys and home made props!

Thanks for whatever help can be given to clear this earth shattering dilemma for me, Petseal

 

[JoeRalat]

Well I am into Chip props. I know for sure that the ones seen here are not the same ones in Generations. The ones used in the control room are the same type in TNG, but thicker. I think Mike Okuda talks about them in the Text commentary. But the chips could have been part of the set.

The one thing that always gives me a cule that the props could be fake is the font.

I know that you can't depend on what I am about to say, but I like to know where the seller is from. If he or she said she worked on the show and the ebay auction seller is from china..that could be a cule. But again you can depend on that.

I will look on my dvd and see about the Text commentary.

 

[sector 7G]

i got a set of these from a convention several years ago, before generations ever was a thought, so no they are not screen used, nor are they screen acurate to what isoliner chips look like then or now.

 

[Treadwell]

Kirk messes with some 23rd Century chips in the Enterprise B, could that be it?

 

[sector 7G]

no

Kirk messes with some 23rd Century chips in the Enterprise B, could that be it?

 

[Petseal]

So if I am reading the responses right it's a definite may-be! I was really hoping for a more difinative answer!
Thanks to everyone who wrote in but it looks as if it may be one of those questions that will only be answered when someone with a sharp eye catches a glimpse of one and tells someone else!
The problem remains that if it was never used in any way shape or form on Star Trek then I may never know for sure!
Well I live near Novi Michigan and they usually have two comic conventions a year (only one this year) I go to meet the "media" guests!
It has given me a great opportunity to meet allot of the secondary stars and guest stars from all the ST series! And actors from other shows and movies!
Also there are the artists, comic mostly but commercial as well!
If Mike Okuda EVER shows up at one I will take them to him and find out for sure one way or the other!
Hopefully some else will see this thread and say, hey I know that!!!!!!
Later, Petseal

 

[Walter]

Sorry, but I think you were reading something into a post that just was not there.

Sector 7g said that they were not used in Generations and those are definately not Next Gen Iso's.

These are fan made pieces and have no connection with the trek production nor accurately replicate anything from a Trek production.

-Bryan

 

[YenChih Lin]

Hi,
First: Oh man! You've been pretty owned :eek. That seller was cold-blooded lying into your face!
Second: I've been a Iso-Chip nut, got several screen used myself and THIS IS NOT EVEN CLOSE to what you see anywhere...

It should look like these used by Kirk in the Deflector scene, which were on ebay sometimes ago:

These are currently one, I could quickly find on my CD archives.
Please don't hesitate to ask questions for these things before bidding....

 

[Petseal]

Sorry, but I think you were reading something into a post that just was not there.

Sector 7g said that they were not used in Generations and those are definately not Next Gen Iso's.

These are fan made pieces and have no connection with the trek production nor accurately replicate anything from a Trek production.

-Bryan

Hey Bryan,
Sorry about that I mis-typed and did not realize it!
I have been fairly certain from day one that they were not ST but I was never sure!
I won them very cheap so I can't grip to much! Besides if they had been ST it was a great opportunity!
But it's not till now and a board like this one that I can find out for sure!
Thanks for the info, Petseal

 

[Petseal]

Hi,
First: Oh man! You've been pretty owned :eek. That seller was cold-blooded lying into your face!
Second: I've been a Iso-Chip nut, got several screen used myself and THIS IS NOT EVEN CLOSE to what you see anywhere...

It should look like these used by Kirk in the Deflector scene, which were on ebay sometimes ago:

These are currently one, I could quickly find on my CD archives.
Please don't hesitate to ask questions for these things before bidding....

Hello YenChih Lin,
I think I would agree with you but it is a "buyer beware" market!
If I had found the auction sooner I may have been able to checked out the scene in the movie and known then that something was not right!
I may have still bought them anyway because as I told Bryan I got them real cheap (don't remember how much now but I did not have a lot to spare back then) and they did look kind of interesting! I will have to see if there is something I can do with them that is ST related!
Many thanks for the help with this, it is appreciated. Petseal

 

[sector 7G]

Petseal, here are a couple of non-screen used iso chips, including a couple like yours, some next gen and a klingon. i had a full set of the ones like in your post but i only searched one box and this is what i came up with.

and here are some screen used ones, again just a few as i only looked through one box but as you can tell there is a huge difference.

 

[Petseal]

Petseal, here are a couple of non-screen used iso chips, including a couple like yours, some next gen and a klingon. i had a full set of the ones like in your post but i only searched one box and this is what i came up with.

and here are some screen used ones, again just a few as i only looked through one box but as you can tell there is a huge difference.

Well sector 7G now I'm really unhappy!
Not because of the ones I started this thread about I was expecting to find they were bogus, but because of the ones right in the middle of your first pic!
There are three long narrow ones that are dark red, blue and green! I have a set of 4 different colored ones that I bought from LCARS.com some time ago!
I knew they were not "screen used" but I do believe they were supposed to look like the ones used on TNG! I just checked and he describes them as the TNG Styled ISO CHIPS!
The yellow one there I have never seen before and I'm assuming it's the Klingon one you mentioned and the blank ones look like the red, blue and green ones without any silk screening!
As far as the second picture goes I have seen all of them except the big black one! I do know that the "screen used" props you have pictured should be silver one side and gold on the other! IAW has had many of these on eBay, otherwise I wouldn't know what little I do know!
So if you can at least confirm that the four I got from LCARS.com are close lookalikes I will be happy again! He does some really great looking stuff and I would hate to think he's ripping people off! Also his item stickers look just like the ones found on PADDs, panels and anywhere else they could find to stick one or two or twenty!
Hope to hear from you soonest about the set of 4 I have and if you need a pic let me know and I will post one ASAP. In fact I may post one as soon as I finish everything I need to do now, Petseal

 

[sector 7G]

Petseal, your correct the green one is a klingon version like the one used in generations. the blanks are just some i never got around to finishing. and the red, blue, green (yellow one must be in a box somewhere) i got at another convention in Los Angeles and they are close to the screen used ones.

My screen used chips are silver on one side gold on the other, there is also another tell-tell that most people over look when they are making fan made ones. The large black one is from ds9.

please feel free to post pics from the ones from lcars.net he does excellent work and i would think you would be happy with any prop in your collection.

 

[DemonSeed]

If youre going to delete my post to a thread, a PM or a post saying why would be appropiate.

You know who else used to censor things he didnt like in the paper? Hitler. This is total BS.

 

[Petseal]

Hello all,
Took awhile but here are the ISO chips I bought off LCARS.com!
To what I know, which as I said earlier is not much, these are very close to the look of the screen used ones without paying the screen used price! Even has the sticker around the top which I believe is a tell for accurate copies!
Thanks much, Petseal

 

[YenChih Lin]

I can assure you, these are close ones to what you see on screen.

Here are mine:

 

[Emeldahay]

So if I am reading the responses right it's a definite may-be!
Later, Petseal

Sounds like a definate no

 

[Petseal]

I can assure you, these are close ones to what you see on screen.

Here are mine:

Cool, thanks YenChih Lin!
The only major difference I can see between mine from LCARS.com and your TNG era ones, I am assuming they are screen used, is the painted pattern is not the same and the size of the numbers! The numbers on yours must be about twice the size of the numbers on mine!
All in all I am very pleased with the ones I bought, well worth the money!
Now to figure out what I can do with the ones that started this thread...
Later guys, Petseal

 

[YenChih Lin]

Yes they are, in fact the blue one was TNG era (presumably used by Brent Spiner in an episode I forgot) and the red one is from VOY (a friend of mine was buying this from Mike Moore, when he was in germany at the now defunct Galileo7 Con), where the newer chips have one circuitry line missing.

Mike also told me, that the sticker labels with numbers had changed over the years. The first ones were simple brownish ones, later lime green and blue with just lines, none or circuit pattern silkscreened on the plastic. The labels were cut from floppy disks with red, green or blue dots on the labels - no numbers. Later in VOY they printed on vinyl stickers. You also can verify it, by using UV light on the light reactive platic they use for the chips.

Blue chips "The naked now" Trekcore
Chip Racks Engineering "The naked now" Trekcore
Blue chips "11001001" Trekcore

It seems to me, that your replicas are much broader and longer than mine... what size does it have?

0,95 inch wide x 3,3 inch long x 1/8 inch depth (2,4 cm x 8,45 cm x 0,3 cm)

 

[Petseal]

It seems to me, that your replicas are much broader and longer than mine... what size does it have?

0,95 inch wide x 3,3 inch long x 1/8 inch depth (2,4 cm x 8,45 cm x 0,3 cm)

Hey YenChih Lin,
Well I just checked mine from LCARS.com and the sizes you have written are so close to what I have it just don't seem worth the time to write them out again!
Best of Luck, Petseal