Limited Run DaveP's Obi Static Parts Run 2022/23 (Sign-Up Closed)

I’m going to post in support of the flash hider in this kit. Fact is we don’t know yet… I built my saber this way and it fits perfectly. The rings snap right into the threaded lip of the grenade (cut the cone, you can leave some of the smaller radius, which fits in the grenade body) and the bearing ring sandwiches the lower clamp tabs to the booster. It’s great, the booster basically threads to the clamp section… it’s very satisfying.
 
I’m going to post in support of the flash hider in this kit. Fact is we don’t know yet… I built my saber this way and it fits perfectly. The rings snap right into the threaded lip of the grenade (cut the cone, you can leave some of the smaller radius, which fits in the grenade body) and the bearing ring sandwiches the lower clamp tabs to the booster. It’s great, the booster basically threads to the clamp section… it’s very satisfying.
It’s the only way to get the slight bend to the saber visible in the head on Chronicles photo.
The bend is also apparent in the Tunisia photos. The threaded rod is a blind alley IMO.
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The screws through the clamp into the grenade are enough to keep the grenade seated on the cut down flash hider. Add a few blobs of epoxy to the setup and your saber isn’t coming apart by accident.
 
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It’s the only way to get the slight bend to the saber visible in the head on Chronicles photo.
The bend is also apparent in the Tunisia photos. The threaded rod is a blind alley IMO.
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The screws through the clamp into the grenade are enough to keep the grenade seated on the cut down flash hider. Add a few blobs of epoxy to the setup and your saber isn’t coming apart by accident.

Call me crazy but I'm not trying to have a crooked lightsaber... This is where 100% accuracy people are just out of control.:rolleyes:

99% accuracy is ok with me if it means my lightsaber doesnt have a bend to it.
 
Call me crazy but I'm not trying to have a crooked lightsaber... This is where 100% accuracy people are just out of control.:rolleyes:

99% accuracy is ok with me if it means my lightsaber doesnt have a bend to it.
We can both like what we like without casting aspersions. The cut down flash hider will not preclude anyone from using a threaded rod. No one is asking you to make a bent saber, that is a fallacious argument.
 
There has been some discussion/disagreement on FB around a couple of things relating to this run...

I just want to clarify a couple of things...

The final wind vane is neither modelled on a "Hales" or a "Roburite" variant of the riffle grenade. It's based on the prop references. The one on the prop could be either for all we know. I made a passing comment in my last update that the latest render was modelled on the Roburite version (quickly clarified in the following sentence to say that it was actually modelled on the prop reference). The reason I used the Roburite text on the last render was to show that that text was an option if desired, and as I mentioned, I was offering it on the basis that this variant is only found with the correct ring profile, so I've heard. So it really could be either variant that was used.

There is also a discussion around the idea that tape was wrapped to cover the lettering on the ring. I'm all for healthy debate, and even disagreement. I've given my reasons for believing that there is indeed tape present, and tried to demonstrate why I think so the best of my ability.

At the end of the day though, it's a removable, easily added detail, that people can choose to go with, or ignore.

Here's the best I can do to at least show what it is I'm seeing, using the best images that I'm able to share:

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As for the very faint lettering and whether or not it would be visible through the tape, here's my vintage (therefor stamped) Graflex clamp, with PVC tape applied:

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Interestingly, the letters are visible, but only at the point where a strong highlight crosses the tape. Exactly what we see on the prop reference:

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That's the best I can do to at least explain MY own thinking on the matter. I'm happy for people take it or leave it though. (y)

Work continues on the CAD drawings and STEP models... Most of the trickier parts (which I've tackled first) are done. Hoping to be finished by the end of this week and to get them off for quotes!

For that reason, I'm dropping off the radar (and FB!) completely! I'll be back on here with another proper update at the beginning of next week!

Thanks again for your patience everyone! So many parts to get through, and NURBS modelling isn't my usual method, so getting everything converted for manufacture, and drawn up in CAD is always a bit of a headache when it gets to this stage in the process.

Almost there though!

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Cheers,

Dave
 
Just to show as an example, I have Hale’s here with a deep stamp little/no groove. I added tape, overlapping on one half, just to see if the lettering was visible. This does not prove anything regarding what was done to the original, just can be used as a proof of concept should someone want to add it.

Dave, I like the all options on the table approach. This way, everyone can do what they want.

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That's cool that you made it work. The only problem with not having a spacer though, is that the grenade doesn't sit on the clamp tabs. It's close, but for it to sit at the correct depth, it doesn't go in quite that far. So it does need a spacer of some sort.

Unfortunately yet again I'm going to be a dissenting voice. My grenade *does* sit far enough down and on the Graflex tabs of the clamp and I don't use any spacer for my build.


I've been one of the skeptics from the get go of the original prop makers having cut down a booster cone when a single threaded rod is good enough to hold everything together.

Moreover it goes against the supposition that because everything was on loan from Bapty that nothing could be irreversibly altered.
 
So I’m a youngster compared to a lot of the people on here, and while I’ve read thousands of pages of threads to catch up on some of these props it’s impossible for me to always find the Genesis of some information.

Can someone point me toward where the info about the Ben hero coming from Bapty originated? I’ve never seen someone give concrete evidence that that is the case, but I might just be coming late to something that everyone else sees as set in stone and not worth rehashing.

Sorry if this details the thread DaveP I can post this somewhere else if it’s not relevant enough.
 
So I’m a youngster compared to a lot of the people on here, and while I’ve read thousands of pages of threads to catch up on some of these props it’s impossible for me to always find the Genesis of some information.

Can someone point me toward where the info about the Ben hero coming from Bapty originated? I’ve never seen someone give concrete evidence that that is the case, but I might just be coming late to something that everyone else sees as set in stone and not worth rehashing.

Sorry if this details the thread DaveP I can post this somewhere else if it’s not relevant enough.
Come along over to this thread…
 
**Update**

Hi Everyone. A little later than expected, but I just wanted to update you all on where things are up to...

ALL final production models are finished, and lining up wonderfully with the prop reference image:

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This has been a mammoth undertaking, and has required every part to be pretty much re-modelled from scratch. I have, as you would expect, AGONISED over every detail of every individual piece (of which there are many), which is why things have taken a little longer than planned:

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Just a preview of some of them. All the models are now finished and ready to go. I'm just in the process of finalising the 2D CAD Drawings, with a few still in progress:


Part NameProduction ModelCAD DrawingSent for QuoteQuote Received
Emitter OuterDoneDoneTo Do
Emitter InnerDone DoneTo Do
Hales BodyDoneDoneTo Do
Hales NeckDoneDoneTo Do
Hales Wind VaneDoneDoneTo Do
Hales RingDoneDoneTo Do
ClampDoneIn ProgressTo Do
Clamp Bar 01DoneIn ProgressTo Do
Clamp Bar 02DoneIn ProgressTo Do
Clamp LeverDoneIn ProgressTo Do
Clamp Lever BarDoneIn ProgressTo Do
TransistorDoneDoneTo Do
WasherDoneDoneTo Do
Flash/SpacerDoneDoneTo Do
BoosterDoneDoneTo Do
Handwheel InnerDoneDoneTo Do
Handwheel ShoulderDoneDoneTo Do
Handwheel CubesDoneDoneTo Do
Handwheel CapDoneIn ProgressTo Do
Handwheel IndicesDoneIn ProgressTo Do
Coach BoltDoneIn ProgressTo Do
Emitter insertDoneIn ProgressTo Do

I intend to get these finished early this coming week, and to have EVERYTHING sent off for quotation by Wednesday. With a little luck, we should hopefully have an idea of price by the end of the week! :)

Once we have a price, I'll start to contact people on the list to confirm their interest. Probably starting the week after next. (y)

Thanks again for your patience everyone! Very excited to finally get this run moving!

All the best, and MTFBWY!

Dave
 
**Update**

DaveP I am interested. :)
Hello, I am interested! Your work is top notch. Also, may I ask what program you use to make the wireframe overlays?
Wow- impressive stuff!

Interested in one weathered full commission, should that be an option later on.

List updated. Thanks so much guys (y)

And thanks for hanging in there everyone! I'm just about done with the technical drawings now, although not all of the components have been sent off for quotations yet...

I've been juggling finishing things off with the outstanding drawings with communicating with local manufacturers this past week or so.

I've made tech drawings many times, but never for sheet metal manufacture. This was a bit of a learning curve, and something I absolutely want to get right! Working out the bend allowances in order to draw up a flat pattern is not as straight forward as you might think! I'm happy to say that that's all now sorted out, and can chalk that up as another string to my bow.

I have one specialist manufacturer working on a quote for the material accurate balance pipe. I'm hoping to hear back from them soon, once they've managed to source the material for the outer part.

I haven't settled on manufacturers yet for the various other parts, as I'm still waiting on a few replies (this in itself is kind of influencing my decision to be honest). I do have a few options though, and have been invited to go pick up another part I'm having made in person from one potential shop. I'm looking forward to having a look around the shop and discussing the run with them soon.

It's all just a case now of waiting to hear back from potential manufacturing partners (and sending off the last few drawings!) and then working out the final prices for the run as and when I receive the information. Everything is slowly coming together, but never at the pace that I seem to expect. :lol:

There are just so many individual parts and considerations with this one!

I will of course keep you all updated with any news! As you know though, I can't really share the things that I've been busy working on this past few weeks.

Thanks again for your patience everyone!

All the best and MTFBWY!

Dave


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Good god, this is so much work. Dave, these models look amazing! A) I’m very impressed and b) thank you for doing this for the community

Holy **** lol
 
Forgive my ignorance here, but what will secure the balance pipe (emitter) onto the windvane? Does the threaded rod extend from the sink know/handwheel (pommel) all the way through the windvane and into the emitter? Is there a confirmed source for that threaded rod or does the community just come to that conclusion that it must have been used in order to hold it all together?

Finally, in regards to the windvane lettering and whether or not tape or paint or some other substance was covering the lettering: does anyone think that if there is indeed something covering the lettering, it could have specifically been added postproduction for those photos so that no discernible markings could be identified (by people like us)? I just find it highly suspect that they would bother to cover the markings for shooting when those markings would be impossible to see on camera.

Personally, I don't believe there is anything at all trying to cover any lettering, at least not during filming. I think the original stamping was either just super faint from when it was manufactured or time/wear and tear had worn down the brass to the point where you could barely make out any markings to begin with. From everything I see in photos, on film, etc. the color of the windvane is consistently the same weathered brass up and down.
 
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