Daredevil (Netflix Series)

Moreover, Spidey (in the films, at least) and the FF are typically taking on big superpowered threats. DD does some of that at other points in his run, but his main opponent is the Kingpin and organized crime. Now, in the comics, Spidey deals with that, too, but DD is far more focused on that.
 
Moreover, Spidey (in the films, at least) and the FF are typically taking on big superpowered threats. DD does some of that at other points in his run, but his main opponent is the Kingpin and organized crime. Now, in the comics, Spidey deals with that, too, but DD is far more focused on that.

That's how I've always understood it.
 
I'm pretty sure the shift really kicks in when Frank Miller took over writing DD in 1979 or 1980 or so. Miller really started pushing the Kingpin angle. Previously, the Kingpin had been both a DD and Spidey villain, but Miller made the Kingpin DD's archnemesis (along with Bullseye), Miller introduced Elektra and the whole ninja aspect, he was (I think) the first to get into DD first getting started with his vigilante career based on what happened with his father being pushed around by organized crime enforcers, etc.

You can see a lot of this in the first volume of collected Miller DD works, which, incidentally is...ok. It doesn't REALLY get good until Miller is given full writing control which doesn't happen until towards the end of the volume, and even then, it takes him a while to "find his voice" as distinct from what the other Marvel writers were doing at the time. So, for a while, it reads much more like a kidn of late-70s campy superhero comic. By the last two issues in the volume, though, you see the first kernels of what Miller's style will become which, in my opinion, culminates with the Born Again story arc (which I've been waiting for in film or -- better yet -- episodic TV format for just shy of 30 years...).

It's looking like this first season of DD is going to be heavily indebted to the Man Without Fear arc, although I expect it will expand on that further. If you haven't read any of these yet, DEFINITELY read The Man Without Fear, and try to grab a copy of Born Again. Miller writes it, but Dave Mazzuchelli's artwork is phenomenal and very, very cinematic, down to his use of lighting in various panels. It's practically a storyboarded screenplay.
 
I know it's not necessarily the case in the universe of this show, but all this "this city needs me" stuff has me thinking about all the other Marvel superheroes running around NYC. Does it REALLY need you that much Matt? Spidey and the FF aren't exactly slackers. ;)
That is one superhero trope I wish film makers would let DIE!!!!

Do writers think we're not smart enough to recognize why the hero in question does what he does?
 
That is one superhero trope I wish film makers would let DIE!!!!

Do writers think we're not smart enough to recognize why the hero in question does what he does?

Seriously, take a look at The Man Without Fear. The "This city needs me" or "I'm just trying to make my city better" line doesn't appear, but it really helps illustrate what drives Matt to become Daredevil.
 
I really can't wait for this show I already have it sorted that on the 10th I have the house to myself to binge watch all 13 episodes :) just stuck the directors cut of the film on and reading alot of the comics :)
 
Netflix just revealed Matt's final costume. I love the armor. Helmet is a bit weird, but I'm really digging the black, soulless eyes.
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Netflix just revealed Matt's final costume. I love the armor. Helmet is a bit weird, but I'm really digging the black, soulless eyes.
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Not sure if I like it when I first saw i thought it was shopped my first though is shield made it the desdesign reminds me of the avengers will wait for the full reveal before I decide if I like it in which case I will be making it :)

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Netflix just revealed Matt's final costume. I love the armor. Helmet is a bit weird, but I'm really digging the black, soulless eyes.
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Not sure if I like it when I first saw i thought it was shopped my first though is shield made it the desdesign reminds me of the avengers will wait for the full reveal before I decide if I like it in which case I will be making it :)
 
Quick question though : does this come out on all Netflix or just the US Netflix ? Because Belgian Netflix doesn't show anything about it so far. And what time is it supposed to be out ? Midnight ?
 
The red costume looks ok, it's definitely DD with modern fabrics, but doesn't blow me away. We still don't have a full body shot yet though so hard to judge. I also think Cox's head is making the cowl less flattering. Someone said the DD emblem is on the suit but lower on the torso... anyone else think that's gonna look weird if it's below the chest? Might be a smaller emblem off to the side of the abs maybe.

Quick question though : does this come out on all Netflix or just the US Netflix ? Because Belgian Netflix doesn't show anything about it so far. And what time is it supposed to be out ? Midnight ?

Netflix shows are released midnight PST, so in about 11 hrs from the time of my post. However for international releases I'm not entirely sure if it's the same.
 
From what little of it we can see, I think it looks fine. I don't think it necessarily needs the DD logo.

Honestly, all the wigging out that geeks do over the costumes...it really just doesn't ****ing matter to me all that much anymore. Logo, no logo, true-to-the-comic, more modernized, whatever. I don't care if the acting is good and the writing is good. I care if the story is told well, not if it perfectly matches the visuals of the comic. I'm fine with "close enough" + an awesome story, as opposed to awesome costume + crappy story.

Let's not forget, the Affleck suit looked about as comic-authentic as you could ask for, short of red spandex, and that film was still awful. And after ALL of the times that people have complained about this or that costume only to end up liking the end result (X-men first film, The Flash show, etc.), why do we get that bent out of shape about it anymore? This series will rise or fall on its storytelling, not on its costume fidelity with the comics.
 
I think the main issue with the cowl is the covered nose a la Batman. Past that it looks pretty good! I'm interested to see how the suit is designed and constructed in the show's narrative. If he makes it himself, well... Lucky it's red!
 
I'm heading home from work right now and plan on straight setting two episodes over breakfast! Pumped!
 
Definitely a surprise!!!! Its as if David Fincher decided to shoot a super hero series. Its a solemn affair, saturated in darkness , blood, crime and pain. I've watched the first two episodes and its aimmed squarely at the mature segment of the market. Its pacing is best described as" steady". Its the polar opposite of "AOS" and its filled , as one of the characters says "with dark corners and threats."
The openning titles are a good guide, NY structures and statues dripping in scarlet blood and its highly effective intro. The acting and production are first rate as are the stunts, the fighting style so far seems to be a cross of between boxing and krav maga and really hardly super hero at all (apart from the punishment he takes) . The first episode was strong, the second good but not as intense, but its nice to see Rosario Dawson again she's playing an very interesting character. I wouldn't prefferably binge watch this, its just too heavy and I'll take an episode a night at a time from now on.
 
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I loved the first episode. THIS is how Daredevil is suppose to be portrayed. I liked how they mixed boxing into his fighting style and the ricocheting baton.
 
I like it,....already it makes Arrow, Flash,.....even Agents of SHIELD seem like cheesy TV series's,.....this feels (so far,....up to Ep 4) like an episodic movie

...mention of Iron Man & Thor also are cool

J
 
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