CS&T WorldCon Detective Special

airhead

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Richard Coyle's latest masterpiece arrived in the mail - the 2019 Dectective Special Model CS&T WorldCon blaster. This surpasses all replicas that I've seen to date for accuracy to the hero prop. The fit and feel are top-notch, with new metal finishes for the various parts and, of course, metal parts also. The grip is finally big enough and the overall effect is that this could pass as a hero prop in close-ups. It's that good. All LED's light up, all five reds and both greens. The firing pin retracts when the bolt is activated, and the movement is restricted by the new screw. The cylinder and left cover drop open with the thumb release. Looking back over the WorldCon shots, it's as close as I'm ever going to come to the original prop. I opted for the right side slide switch, which activates the electronics. And this is an as-issued finish, not the weathered finish of the WC prop. Thanks to Rich and Phil for their original work and to Karl for his find at the WC. And thanks to wackychimp for the pics posting:

RightSide72.jpg


LeftSide72.jpg


airhead
 
Is this supposed the be the "Super Hyper accurate" one? I only ask cause it's still missing the greeblies above the leds on the side with the pointer (who's LED are supposed to be green as well)

Not trying to raise a stink, just curious as to why they would have been left off.
 
This is the version that most felt was more real IF it was to be a real gun, with the wires hidden and with out the screws in the ammo housing.

Most agree the wires were a last minute fix that IF they could have done so would have been hidden, and in the dropped gun shot seems to have been painted or coverd up.

The LEDs are green just did not show up that way in these pictures.

There is no other detail missing.

You can order this with visable wires if you want, So far it has been 3 visable to 12 hidden.
 
A couple of things.
1) The pictures taken at Worldcon are of the prop as it is now, it is is the
conduction the real prop was found in, rusting and seemly uncared for.
This is surely NOT the conduction it was in for the making of the film
and it would never be the conduction of a still in use and carried service
weapon, so I do not plan on trying to make the rust and lack of
care model.

Note I have done one finish as rusted and worn, and it came out well, and so it is a option.

2) The wires on the outside of the left side cover really look Hodge Podge
and Mickey Mouse, add in the face that they were later painted or covered
(Seen in the wall shot covered but painted in the dropped gun shot) I think they
thought so on the set, so I have worked a way to hide them in a slot on the
inside of the cover, and again think this is the way the gun would have been
done on the set and most certainly in real life.

Again you can order them as visable.

3) I plan on providing both the screw and the Weaver knob, the jury is still
out on which was used within the film and as it is a simple thing to supply
both you can then use which one you like.

4) As the switch in the ammo clip IS now found in a couple of screen
captures I plan on it being the stock switch and clip. On the other hand I
feel that the two screws with the washers was again a jury rigger fix of
perhaps a original inside toothpick switch, I can see no other reason for
them. I feel they distract from the model and plan on leaving them off.

The model in these pictures I feel is the closes to what a real Hero Prop gun
would have been as protraied within the Film.

Again some feel the hidden "Toothpick" switch is more in the keeping of a
real gun so that is also an option.

This is also the color and details I plan for the metal model,
custom requests will be allowed.

So there are many versions that can be ordered, as found,
as filmed and which version as filmed you like.

So far of this run there has been three versions done.

Rich
 
Thanks.

I am working on the All metal models now, in fact this run was a fitting and working out bugs run for the all metal model.

So it was beeing worked on as well side by side.

Rich

Please turn on the edit feature for us bad spellers.....

Rich
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Vaderman @ Mar 19 2007, 03:08 PM) [snapback]1443126[/snapback]</div>
Can we see one of the WC pics for comparison?
[/b]

:lol

Nah, posting those pics might upset the original owner of the gun. Selling knockoffs of it is cool though.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MattMunson @ Mar 19 2007, 01:22 AM) [snapback]1443131[/snapback]</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Vaderman @ Mar 19 2007, 03:08 PM) [snapback]1443126[/snapback]
Can we see one of the WC pics for comparison?
[/b]

:lol

Nah, posting those pics might upset the original owner of the gun. Selling knockoffs of it is cool though.
[/b][/quote]


Ok that is one of the funniest....yet saddest posts I have ever read.

Right now I am too busy laughing .. Good one Matt ..
 
Before this thread derails, I'd also like to thank Rich for the wonderful work he put into this effort. I got mine on Saturday and it really is a gorgeous piece of workmanship.

It really is a great looking blaster, all around.

edited to add: airhead, looks like you went for the same options as me: switch for the lights and the weaver knob. :)
 
On the other hand I
feel that the two screws with the washers was again a jury rigger fix of
perhaps a original inside toothpick switch, I can see no other reason for
them. I feel they distract from the model and plan on leaving them off[/b]

Why would anyone plug the holes as a fix? Fix for what? What makes you think think they were put there after the movie was shot?

I guess I'm failing to follow your reasoning :confused
 
I believe the theory is that, as originally constructed, the prop had a "toothpick" switch on the left side of the ammo housing. When that started to get twitchy, or wouldn't stay in the "on" position, screws were put in to alternatively keep it "on," or turn it "off." As far as it goes, the theory makes sense. However, I'm not sure how it can be reconciled with the prominent "on/off" switch located on the other side of the ammo housing - a switch that has been confirmed as appearing on-screen.

In terms of accuracy to the WC pistol, I think Rich has gotten the closest to date. That said, the models made by RPF members from the SidKit have done wonders starting with a kit that was "off" in many respects. Plus, those models applied the current wear patterns on the prop, which, although it probably didn't look like that 20+ years ago, sure looks cool now. :)
 
Where did the toothpick story come from in the first place? Phil? He seems to have got quite a bit of stuff wrong....
 
Yeah, I'm not sure why taking off the screws would be better. They were on the model that we see in the movie as far as I'm concerned.

There are many things that aren't visually nice about the blaster (the wire, the grinded black spots on the grip frame, the dull black on the butt, the goofy switch that's now canon.) but a replica is a replica for the most part.

I will agree that my ideal replica wouldn't have the wire hanging out, so idealization is always in the eye of the beholder but I'd like to see those side screws be an available option.

Nick
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MattMunson @ Mar 19 2007, 01:22 AM) [snapback]1443131[/snapback]</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Vaderman @ Mar 19 2007, 03:08 PM) [snapback]1443126[/snapback]
Can we see one of the WC pics for comparison?
[/b]

:lol

Nah, posting those pics might upset the original owner of the gun. Selling knockoffs of it is cool though.
[/b][/quote]

:lol :lol :lol
 
The toothpick switch came from the Prop master when I was interviewing him, I had seen a few other studio made prop use the same trick.

I too think it went bad and the side switch was added as were the LEDs in the rod with the glued on wires.

We know the stunt gun had allot of details different that the shooting prop yet is seems to be only one gun so they HAD to have made changes.

Rich
 
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