Couple of Q's - Iron Man Helmet and PEP

[AdamJ]

Hi

I'm new to all this but started my Iron Man mk3 helmet the other day and i have a few Q's:

1) I'm using 230g cardstock, is this too thick ? My build doesn't look as smooth like any of the ones on here. I.E the joins are smoother on other builds but mine you can quite clearly seem them overlapping.

2) What does PEP actually stand for ?

3) What is the offical colours for the Iron Man helmet/suit ?

I'm sure i'll think of more while i'm building it but they can come in WIP thread.

Cheers
Adam

 

[AdamJ]

Ok, i've just realised that PEP is short for PEPAKURA ... DOH !

 

[Leander]

Heej Adam welcome,

1) I myself am using 200g paper but 230g should do the trick.. what I do is carve with the back of my knige the folding lines so I can bend them smooth I don't know if you are doing that but it helps a lot. maybe if you post some pictures I can give more and better advice.

2) Pep is an abreviation of Pepakura which is the Progam that makes the paper foldouts from 3D models.
Pepakura is Japanses for Papercrafting. But it became a slang verb for putting the pepakura files together.

3) In the movies a lot of colors are used. the movie has wearable models with various different colors and also the computer models have different colors.

According to "the art of Ironman the movie" there are 9 different red/yellow combinations used.

I could post the pages if you like.
also on the forums I see a lot of cherry red being used. but most people use what they tink looks best or they think that's closest to what's used in the movies

 

[Leander]

Here are the pages from the Art of Ironman the movie

Page 1
Page 2

I hope they are readable..

In case they are not.. these are the colors as the book names them.
Red:
Isuzu "red rock"
Toyota "Dark Salsa Red"
"Burnt Fire Prizm"
Nissan "Merlot Red"

Yellow:
Volkswagen "Cosmic Yellow"
Mercedes "Designo Chalbis"
"Butter Green Prizmtone"
Hot Hues "Pacific Gold"
Custom Chromalusion #1
Kosmic Krome "Gold Effect
Brushed Gold Plate

 

[AdamJ]

Thanks Leander, No i wasn't carving the folder lines with my knife but will try that.

Will upload a pic soon.

Cheers
Adam

 

[EyeofSauron]

if youre not sure about carving the folds, you can also try drawing over it with an empty pen. wont work as good, but you are not in the danger of cutting to deep (which i dont see happening with 230 cardboard) personally i started my first helmet with the pen method and got clean folds, but i switched to the knife method because i was tired of allways running a pen over the lines three to four times with a ruler, where on the knife i can do it free handedly

 

[indiefilmgeek]

On color, I agree that you go with what you feel works best for your build.

I really like the color combo I'm using, if you want to look it up and check it out you can compare that with other hues that are suggested and pick the one you like best:

RED- Dupli-color Dark Cherry Metallic
GOLD- Dupli-color Sunburst Gold Metallic

While these are pretty glossy, I'd also hit the whole thing with a gloss coat as well to really 'pop' the paint.

WEATHERING: I'd also do any weathering via paint (black washing, rub-n-buff, etc) I'd suggest doing it prior to applying your gloss coat. That way the gloss coat will lock in your detailing and it won't get smudged or brushed off.

Good luck!

 

[AdamJ]

Thanks guys.

Sorry, another Q....

What is the best for detail PEP file and what PEP file is the easiest to build ?

Cheers
Adam

 

[STEALTH]

Hi adam,
since you're new, I'd use this file. it's great. Easy to build.

Just scale it to 260mm high. The default is 250mm kinda small for most but it fits my head snuggly.

Sharkbeetle Dunghead - Iron Man Helmet - Unfolded by Dubean33.pdo - 4shared.com - online file sharing and storage - download

I used this file. It has really nice proportions. Especially the faceplate.

 

[AdamJ]

Thanks Stealth, appreciate it.

Quick Q tho... how do i scale it to 260mm high ?

It currently says in the bottom right "Assembled size(mm) H265 W292 D296"

Does that mean its already at a good size ?

Cheers
Adam

 

[phaeren86]

Thanks Stealth, appreciate it.

Quick Q tho... how do i scale it to 260mm high ?

It currently says in the bottom right "Assembled size(mm) H265 W292 D296"

Does that mean its already at a good size ?

Cheers
Adam

looks to me that it is scaled right, unless you want it to be exactly 260 as posted. 265 is going to be just a little bit bigger all around. sadly with most builds you have to build more than once to get the right fit and proportions to each piece. the upside is you tend to get better at building it with each rebuild (as long as you stay patient )

 

[AdamJ]

Thanks again.

Is the helmet the hardest part of building a Iron Man suit ?

 

[STEALTH]

Thanks again.

Is the helmet the hardest part of building a Iron Man suit ?

well, it's the part that most people give up on either during the build or after they finish it.

Just try to stay motivated by pacing yourself and don't burn out.

 

[Zhayton]

I'm finding bouncing between folding, glassing, sanding, etc. when I get frustrated provides enough distraction to keep each task interesting, but I still get work done.

 

[AdamJ]

Ok, be gentle.... This is my 1st ever try at PEP'ing. I know its not been done right hence these questions. I'm going to attempt the one Stealth suggested.

 

[MykiiAmore]

Don't see why you are beating yourself up over the first attempt at the PEP.
Its all a trial and error thing really. You will learn to improve over time with patience and the guys here in the forum will help and I'll happily chip in when I'm not busy selling my soul to customers wanting a new phone!

Keep up the good work.

 

[STEALTH]

looking really good so far Adam.

Looks clean, you're doing fine

 

[ShadoWorx]

That looks really good. I've been fighting with Pep for over 3 yrs now and thats better than most all my attempts. I have noticed the quality of the file you are working with makes a big difference in the hard piece