Colonial marine helmet build-Now functional

Canobi

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Hi guys and gals


Inspired by Quest and his awesome Nerf PR build, I thought I'd give it a crack, but not satisfied to just making a PR, I thought I'd have a go at making a marine helmet to go with it.

Both items are surprise birthday presents for my brother who is a massive aliens fan, and wanted to do something special for him this year.


So, started by tracking down a decent donor helmet on eBay. I was contemplating using a plastic one, but found a metel one for £16, so I was off to a good start :)


Next was tracking down the periferals. After an extensive search, I came across Mooncrest models here in the uk that sold them (I did consider spat, but time constraints and shipping costs played a key factor).

They looked good quality with nice crisp lines so ordered the earpiece kit, and helm cam (still waiting for neck flaps to be back in stock though).

I wasn't dissapointed, very nice work from Mooncrest, I highly recommend them :thumbsup


So after aquiring some proper cutting discs for my dremel, I set about marking and cutting out the section for the earpiece:

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Being as it's a metel helmet, I decided rivets were the way to go. I drilled the holes in the cam, marked them on the helmet, and set about making the holes. It's at that point I ran into problems:

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Yep, hartfield steel is not fun to play with, and none of my bits would cut further than the base of the cutting head. The other problem is bit wandering, you can see from the score mark in the pic :/

So it was time for a bit of research, and an engineering forum provided me with the solution. It turns out that quite a few members of said forum use tungsten carbide masonry bits and cutting oil for reinforced steel/armour plating with much success.

They were right, in less time than it took to mark it with my other drill bits, I had a hole:

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I used a bit sharpener after every two holes till the cutting head wore out on hole five:

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It was then that it became apparent that bit wandering had kicked in at some point, and the cam was now pointing upward :facepalm

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Ah well, a few holes to fill, should be able to sort it out.



One thing I couldn't find for sale is a lobe plate, but after a quick query over at the aliens lagecy forum (seemed the best place to ask), I found out most folks just wing it (exept the lucky few that get one with spats kit), so for me, winging it it is.

Started by deciding what I was going to make it out of, there were a few good suggestions, but settled for using foam as I like the thicker looking plates (using 1mm and 10mm foam), and going with Xrobots technique for coating foam with resin.

First I gathered some small pieces of foam that I got from work (they looked about the right size), and cut out shapes till I was happy:

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I then took a thinner piece of foam and skinned the helmet:

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This was just a test piece of foam as its too soft, but the effect is right. I have a piece of 1mm craft foam I'm going to heat shape/glue over it instead.


I finally got my drill press in the mail so set it up, drilled the rest of the holes in the earpiece so I could assemble it:

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Unfortunatey, the lower hinge piece wasn't quite aligned properly on one side, and the drill bit came through the outer wall, another job for the filler :rolleyes


The last of todays antics was drilling the two holes to attach the earpiece to the helmet (ignore the strap):

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I'll be cleaning up and filling/sanding the parts next, then sorting the new lobe plate skin after.


Thanks for looking, catch you later ;)
 
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Re: Colonial marine helmet (rookie build)

VERY COOL! Looks really good my friend!
 
Re: Colonial marine helmet (rookie build)

Thanks sofaking01, hoping this all comes together ok.
 
Re: Colonial marine helmet (rookie build)

Looks great so far. That's going to be one heavy helmet when your done!
 
Re: Colonial marine helmet (rookie build)

Thanks Robiwan.


It don't think it'll be trooped in as I haven't planned on making the rest of the costume (yet....maybe), but it'll be occasionally worn, and I like to feel the waight when picked up as it just adds to the realism :)

Same for the Nerf PR, I'm definitely adding some ballast once I find out what a metal one waighs :thumbsup
 
Re: Colonial marine helmet (rookie build)

Cool :thumbsup

I actually started the PR first, but it was waiting for the electronics, so decided to have a crack at a helm too while I was waiting.

It's not too far from done as its fairly easy to put together, so I think I'll finish it up first, then see how much time I have left for the PR (end of June is my deadline).

I want to tackle the lobe plate covering tonight, I think I can make it look like the metal ones and have it folding over/under the peak at the base using the 1mm foam.
 
Re: Colonial marine helmet (rookie build)

Purchased the IR last night (minus electronics) from golden armour, and they were accommodating enough to sell me a lobe plate, and the lobster plates too :)

I'll do the electronics for the eye piece once it arrives. If I'm clever about it, I might be able to hide the battery in the earpiece.
 
Re: Colonial marine helmet (rookie build)

Wow, very cool project!



Thanks CS :)


Rather than totaly screw up attempting a screen accurate paint job, I'm going to personalise it and go custom.


I might even go zeno battle damage with it. I think there might be a way to make it look like Zeno acid got splashed on it.

I have some rust patina activator I'm going to experiment with, and according to the datasheet, this stuff is rather strong and will rust metal so quick you can watch it happening.

If I put drops on the helmet and fed them, they might eat away the metal in a similar manor to acid. Washing often between each series of drops should help to control the depths for some variation.

I can test it on the part I cut out for the mike/earpiece :thumbsup
 
Re: Colonial marine helmet (rookie build)

Ok, just found out Golden Armor is a recaster, not happy.

I just bought replacement lobster plates from Mooncrest who I know is decent (now they're back in stock a day after I bought from a recaster.... bloody sods law), but they don't do an IR, or lobe plate.

I may use those if the quality is any good, but according to some its not worth holding my breath over, so I'll have to keep looking for those :(

I'm so annoyed with myself :facepalm
 
Re: Colonial marine helmet (rookie build)

Got a little more done. I filled holes in the casts and helmet, then sanded smooth and assembled it all for a test fit.I used this compasit pic as my guide for the helmet camera (made by punkmarine over at the aliens legacy forum). The pic on the left is how I mounted it, the pic on the right is how it should be mounted :p

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Here it is temporarily re-mounted (you can see the holes I filled in on the helmet), though on the mannequin head, it's pointing upwards a little which makes it look off a bit.

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I also splashed out on new lobster plates from mooncrest, they have a lot more detail as theirs are cast resin, as opposed to GA's vacformed ones.
 
Re: Colonial marine helmet (rookie build)

Hey Canobi, I recognize your gear from the AL. Nice work. I didn't mention this in your AL thread by I scratch built my own helmet myself (I did eventually 'cheat' and us a Spat ear pad) but the rest was scratch. For mine I used a lot of flower pots and liquid nails. Screw the recasters and find yourself some good plastic bowls! It will all work out in the end! They did me just fine in the lobe and lobster plates!







 
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Re: Colonial marine helmet (rookie build)

Where did you get the flowerpot you used?

I had a look for rounder bodied pots > (_) as opposed to straight sided > \_/ but havent found one yet. I had considered heat forming the parts if I made them from a staight sided on, but wasnt sure I could pull it off as my skills in that department are still too green.

I do plan in making a vacform table at some point in the future, and I'm going to follow Xrobots ingenious solution for making one when I get around to it.

My two boys want me to make them Rex and Cody costumes (or Bobba and Jengo Fett) and I'd like to tackle the rest of the marine armour to go with this helmet for my brother, and eventually, a complete set for myself :p

Lots to do until then though, and we are experiencing some rather strong winds which is doing all sorts of odd things to the power in my house and shed (some things are working, some not, it depends how much juice they need to draw in order to work), so its hand tools n battery power till its back properly.
 
Re: Colonial marine helmet (rookie build)

The lobster plates arrived in the mail on monday :) The quality of the fibregalss pulls is very good, and both were pre trimmed.

The only downer is a split in the lower plate that runs to the bump near the base.
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Considering the quality of the parts I've had from him so far, my suspicion lies with its care during transportation.

I sent a pic of the damaged part with accompanying polite message, and a replacement is already on its way :)


Well, im going to get back to actually working on it, rather than waffle on the finer details of it, I'll catch you later ;)
 
Re: Colonial marine helmet (rookie build)

Well folks, this is the sort of "top quality" (his words) you can expect to receive from a recaster like Golden Armour

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The lobe plate is just laughable and is totally asymmetrical, the IR sensor (though not in the pic) is static, and remains in the extended psition. It also looks nothing like the one proudly displayed on his website, and there was no mention of it being static either; just that it didn't come with electronics.

I'm somewhat anoyed to say the least, as its all just landfill, the lobster plates weigh a ton, and I'm worried that if I remove all the excess to make them lighter, it'll make them too weak.

If this was a personal build, I'd get the replacement IR sensor from Spat, but with the shipping time frame he runs at, delivery will totally overshoot my bro's birthday, so not sure what im going to do there.

If I feel ingenious, I might see if I can make on myself somehow, failing that, see if a fellow member might be able to help me out of a jam :/
 
Re: Colonial marine helmet (rookie build)

Getting there :thumbsup

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I'm going to finish assembling the helm cam, and move on to priming the varios parts next :) can't wait to get the replacement (fingers crossed it'll travel better than the first one).

I'm going to leave cutting the part out of the liner for the IR sensor for now, unless I get a decent one in time to install it.
 
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