civil war crossbones parts identification

Discussion in 'Marvel Costumes and Props' started by DizzyStrmtroopr, Jul 31, 2015.

  1. DizzyStrmtroopr

    DizzyStrmtroopr Well-Known Member

    Trophy Points:
    566
    im having a hard time tracking down what type of magazine holders were used, and what the shoulder greeblies by the shotgun shells are. anyone have any ideas? the closest i can find to the mag holders are ebay airsoft 'fast mag' which arent accurate. i was thinking the small half-a-nail-clipper thing on the left shoulder might be some kind of gun tool or folding knife, and the larger item might be a custom made prop which use is to be later revealed. the thigh holster for the glock looks custom made as well
    cb2.jpg
     
  2. DizzyStrmtroopr

    DizzyStrmtroopr Well-Known Member

    Trophy Points:
    566
    found the thigh holster, easy to come across on ebay through chinese sellers in the $30 range
    $_57.JPG

    the screen accurate model is made by blackhawk, but runs about 50-70 JUST for the platform, and doesnt include the holster or accessory holders.
    BH_432300PBK_thigh_front.jpg
    i bought the chinese version and is pretty durable to hold my prop glock 17. cant beat the value and since CB isnt as big a character im not going to bother being super accurate.

    and the hatch xtak knee pads as pointed out by darxide are about $25
    $_1.JPG

    which leads me to believe they really skimped on the budget in the prop dept, which makes it easier on our wallets for a change :)
     
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2015
  3. thefreeman

    thefreeman New Member

    Trophy Points:
    3

    The pouches look very similar(maybe modified) FASTmag pistol magazine pouches
     
  4. DizzyStrmtroopr

    DizzyStrmtroopr Well-Known Member

    Trophy Points:
    566
    seems the pouch under the front chest is an ar15 mag carry pouch
    $_1.JPG
    as seen here
    CapAmerica6_834x1106.png

    the right shoulder mag is some kind of bulgarian waffle mag
    2-MGAIM47W.jpg

    notice CB's is a box shape and the pictured has a contour like a .223, which means most likely some kind of smg or other rifle and not an ar15/ak47 mag

    see here
    Frank-Grillo-Movie-Set-Crossbones-Captain-America-Civil-War-Tom-LOrenzo-Site-TLO-4.jpg
     
  5. Zombie Hadouken

    Zombie Hadouken Member

    Trophy Points:
    162
    the thing on his left shoulder next to shotgun shells is a surgical kit.

    Ive been trying to figure out what the riot gear is that he is wearing, to no avail. I believe its a custom job with 3 major components
    1 - padded riot gear underlay with collar simliar to this
    $_12.JPG
    2 - riot gear armor (I spent a few days looking, but nothing matched) closest I could find is this HATCH gear that looks similar but would need heavy modification.
    upper-body-riot-gear-secpro-upper-body-police-riot-gear-chest-protection-riot-gear-66-700x700.jpg
    3 - molle overlay (looks like a ronin vest, but needs more side height)
    $_122.JPG
    I cant find riot gear that looks like his anywhere, anyone else have better luck?
     
  6. DizzyStrmtroopr

    DizzyStrmtroopr Well-Known Member

    Trophy Points:
    566
    im certain the side molle armor is custom as its triangular in shape. the hard armor chest and back parts are from the bear tactical (foreign ripoff of the hatch armor) that is sold only as a whole suit ($300-1000 on ebay) but the actual stuff was sold by security pro, which they dont seem to make anymore and secpro no longer sells, though its still listed on the website.
    http://secprousa.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=106

    the shin guards are from that same ripoff suit, though they are sold separately unlike the chest and back parts. crossbones armor plates are trimmed down and the back is attached upside down to fit the body contour better. the hatch chest plate has the brand logo molded in, which through the high res pic i have i could see they used the ripoff brand. also the hatch complete suit includes different shin guards, another tell that they used the ripoff (bear tactical), which was also the same suit used in the walking dead riot zombie.

    do you have any leads to the surgical tools?
     
  7. Zombie Hadouken

    Zombie Hadouken Member

    Trophy Points:
    162
    The tools look randomly selected, a folding pair of scissors, forceps, (and Toe Nail clippers?), just run through the Molle slots.

    I have the Bear Tactical Riot Gear (for the walking dead riot zombie, lol.) and am planning on modifying it soon.
    7105_712016732220736_931804570221441543_n.jpg
     
    DizzyStrmtroopr likes this.
  8. DizzyStrmtroopr

    DizzyStrmtroopr Well-Known Member

    Trophy Points:
    566
    that torso looks correct, can you take some more pics of the chest and back plates for reference? i've only stock photos from the manufacturer. your shins look similar but there are slight differences like the chevrons on the feet. did you order your suit from ecop or militarygearsales?

    heres the CB ones
    $_1.JPG
     
  9. Zombie Hadouken

    Zombie Hadouken Member

    Trophy Points:
    162
    I started modifying the vest. Of you run the front straps through in reverse, you can get the shoulder pads to hang lower, all I did was trim and adjust the vest to hang a little lower. Still need to add piping on riot gear armor, and lengthen molle sides.
    20150827_165603-1.jpg
     

    Attached Files:

  10. DizzyStrmtroopr

    DizzyStrmtroopr Well-Known Member

    Trophy Points:
    566
    whilst digging for hd res pics i found a clearer shot. what are THOOOOSE?!
    a beacon or remote type thing and a throwing knife? im stumped.
    tools.png
     
  11. harrisonp

    harrisonp Well-Known Member

    Trophy Points:
    986
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2015
    thefreeman and DizzyStrmtroopr like this.
  12. harrisonp

    harrisonp Well-Known Member

    Trophy Points:
    986
    doublepost
     
  13. DizzyStrmtroopr

    DizzyStrmtroopr Well-Known Member

    Trophy Points:
    566
    thats the knife! :D

    as for the mag im not sure, i dont really know much about rifle calibers, im sure its something common just difficult to pin down the exact found item they used as waffle mags ive seen/found dont have the same grid pattern as CB. seeing as how most of the gear is foreign its possible it could be a non-US gun, but was under the impression s.h.i.e.l.d./s.t.r.i.k.e. was US-based and CB would use a US made bullpup/assault rifle. were not the fight scenes supposed to be in "wakanda"?
     
  14. TotalynotDpool

    TotalynotDpool New Member

    Trophy Points:
    3
    DizzyStrmtroopr and harrisonp like this.
  15. thefreeman

    thefreeman New Member

    Trophy Points:
    3
    harrisonp and DizzyStrmtroopr like this.
  16. leatherneck

    leatherneck Well-Known Member

    Trophy Points:
    521
  17. DizzyStrmtroopr

    DizzyStrmtroopr Well-Known Member

    Trophy Points:
    566
    thank you to everyone thats helped with this thread!

    SteyrAUG-A1-LHmags-1.jpg
     
  18. iamseanfields

    iamseanfields New Member

    Trophy Points:
    3
    DizzyStrmtroopr likes this.
  19. iamseanfields

    iamseanfields New Member

    Trophy Points:
    3
    I agree that the molle panels are probably custom jobs. Assuming they were created to spec, here's my take on a measured drawing. The linked PDFs are 1:1 scale.

    side panels.png

    Left panel PDF

    Right panel PDF
     
    DizzyStrmtroopr likes this.
  20. iamseanfields

    iamseanfields New Member

    Trophy Points:
    3
  21. closet batfan

    closet batfan Well-Known Member

    Trophy Points:
    566
    The belt buckles across the tummy of his body armour are plastic nomex cobra alpines. I know I own a few.
     
  22. iamseanfields

    iamseanfields New Member

    Trophy Points:
    3
    Has anyone been able to positively identify the triple mag pouches on his waist? To me, they look like High Speed Gear Taco pistol pouches that have been cut down.

    Also, does anyone have any idea about the metallic buckles/clips holding them in place? Those have me stumped.

    Screenshot 2015-09-16 07.42.54.png taco pouch.jpg
     
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2015
  23. DizzyStrmtroopr

    DizzyStrmtroopr Well-Known Member

    Trophy Points:
    566
    pretty sure thats what they are, and the chopped mags for decoration, thoser way too small to be glock 26 mags, and he has a 17 anyway. on the concept there was empty space so they prolly improvised and threw something together to give the illusion of extra stuff, as the general audience would care less
    grillo-social_6.jpg
     
  24. iamseanfields

    iamseanfields New Member

    Trophy Points:
    3
  25. TKMArk

    TKMArk New Member

    Trophy Points:
    17
    Has anyone determined if the Shoulders are found items or generally accepted as custom yet?
     

Share This Page