Casting off production made pieces , cool or not?

[BDK]

Unfortunately, I'm one of the few people who even know about the history to even have it be told at all. At least in the area where my molds are concerned.

I know, it almost ALMOST makes me wish that it was not as closed door as it was back then and to a degree still is. Something like a For Sale thread back then would have made this headache of a nightmare go away. Or even now for someone that was maybe not universally trusted, but at least not with affilations to sit down with all the emails, heresay, facts etc and put the puzzle together on their own. I'm not saying you doing it would be biased but it would eliminate a lot of the bickering between the camps so to speak.

 

[GINO]

All I could offer up is to say that while my story has remained the same in 10 years, others have not. In fact, they have changed theirs with almost every new offering of helmets.



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[Gilmortar]

Guys...can we leave the Trooper Lid discussion in THAT thread? This is about if its okay to make molds off of production made pieces...

which its been discussed...YES it is...

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Why change the original line in that picture... "STAY ON TARGET" is appropriate. :thumbsup

But honestly, since this has already been out-debated... how about locking the thread and making it a sticky?

 

[Gilmortar]

Just gives a little more emphasis on that this is a Forum. So Topics....yeah...

 

[Dak]

So what I'm saying is, I no longer lump costumers into one group, or all of them as recaster supporters. I take it on an individual basis.

Not to beat a dead horse, but it seems like you're agreeing with the possibility of a grey area.

 

[GINO]

Sure. I'm not saying grey areas don't exist in life, just that I've never come across a recasting scenario where it wasn't either black or white.

 

[Capn_Jack_Savvy]

How about this analogy.

It is OK to download pirated movies, music, and software. Just don't redistribute it over peer to peer networks or turn around and resell it. So be a Leecher and not a Seeder!

Think of all those people out there RECASTING Microsoft Windows 7 media. Very screen accurate!

 

[Too Much Garlic]

The analogy is a bit fishy... you are talking about Windows after all...

 

[PHArchivist]

Still going, huh?

Its simple - licensed, or original item purchased from an authorized source = LEGAL.

Anything else = NOT legal.

Everything else is just bull**** semantics and made-up morality.

 

[propologist]

Still going, huh?

Its simple - licensed, or original item purchased from an authorized source = LEGAL.

Anything else = NOT legal.

Everything else is just bull**** semantics and made-up morality.

man if you could have posted that 10 posts in.....

 

[mrsmartypants]

man if you could have posted that 10 posts in.....

Why, because it somehow would have made a difference? :lol

 

[fuelish]

How about this analogy.

It is OK to download pirated movies, music, and software. Just don't redistribute it over peer to peer networks or turn around and resell it. So be a Leecher and not a Seeder!

More correct would be that it is OK to "swede" a movie but don't sell it to anyone(Or post it on youtube)

 

[WookieeGunner]

Sure. I'm not saying grey areas don't exist in life, just that I've never come across a recasting scenario where it wasn't either black or white.

OK, how about this one. I have two props sitting on my desk that were made by the exact same person. One is a screen used prop and the other is a replica from a movie this person didn't work on. Why does the person get protection from duplication for one but not the other.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

OK, how about this one. I have two props sitting on my desk that were made by the exact same person. One is a screen used prop and the other is a replica from a movie this person didn't work on. Why does the person get protection from duplication for one but not the other.

Because he worked for hire for the movie, so don't own that piece - and if he was the one making it available to this community, he'd likely be out of a job.

 

[GINO]

OK, how about this one. I have two props sitting on my desk that were made by the exact same person. One is a screen used prop and the other is a replica from a movie this person didn't work on. Why does the person get protection from duplication for one but not the other.

One prop at a time. You don't have to name what the props are, but I need more info to go on.
I need more specific info for each. What you said was way to vague.

Sometimes people need to see specific examples of 'right' or 'wrong' for it to sink in.
So lets examine each one of these props individually and see where they fall.

 

[WookieeGunner]

You should be able to pick any props made by a pro member of this board. Let's take this (purely hypothetical but plausible example). Adam Savage makes something for Mythbusters, which by definition makes it screen used. He also made a LotR map that he released to the RPF community. Is it ok to sell copies of his items?

 

[scarf man]

No, not without his permission.

 

[jedimaster]

Ok , my pieces were pulled from the dumpster at fox studios , some were pieces that didn't make the cut and some were painted and discarded after filming. The general consensus here is that its ok to mold and share with this community . Does everyone agree?

 

[GINO]

Let's take this (purely hypothetical but plausible example). Adam Savage makes something for Mythbusters, which by definition makes it screen used. He also made a LotR map that he released to the RPF community. Is it ok to sell copies of his items?

If he created the replica LotR map, then no, of course it would not be okay to copy it.
If he created a prop for the specifically for the show, and the studio sold it on ebay, or tossed it in a dumpster, and someone from the community acquired it and decided to offer copies, then I'd say yes it's fair game.

The reason is because in the case of the LotR map Adam has no real world legal recourse to protect his work. So the community must come together to protect him.

In the case of the prop he created specifically for the show, the studio has real world legal recourse at its disposal if they so choose. Protection from the community is not necessary or needed.

It's kind of tricky when you are someone who say works for a studio producing props for a feature or tv, yet also is a member of the unlicensed replica prop community. It depends on which hat they are wearing when said prop was made.

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