Egon Spengler
Master Member
Didn't say there was a rule. Just said it doesn't look interesting to me, and that i'll probably eventually see it. Just not in a rush but I'll end up watching it someday to get the whole story.
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PantheraGem
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I'll never see this movie. It does kind of remind me of Green Lantern though, as far as the trailers.
JoMamma_Smurf
Master Member
Mark my words. This is TLJ/Solo of the MCU. It doesn't matter how many people bash it on the internet. If you genuinely want to see it, you will. Not one person I know wants to see this POS. It will Bomb. Take it to the bank.
Wow, you have a lot of vitriol for a film you haven't even seen yet, maybe reserve judgement until after you've seen it (which we know you will despite your protests).
You and your band of haters may say you're avoiding this film at the cinema but you're in the minorty because ticket pre-sales are doing extremely well outselling DC's recent Aquaman film and joining the top echelons of Marvel's pre-sales just behind Black Panther and Avengers Infinity War, maybe you'd like to read this article and open your mind a little.
'Captain Marvel' Passes 'Aquaman,' 'Wonder Woman' in Ticket Presales
I'll be so glad to see another hateful internet moaner proven wrong when the film comes out.
Paul Andrew
Master Member
There is no way this film will bomb. Not a chance in hell. Not only are we talking about a female super hero that tops out the badass scale as far as ability and powers go (which should not be discounted as it's an extremely underserved market), it's got Infinity War tie in / Endgame lead up going for it. I will be mildly surprised if Captain Marvel isn't this year's Black Panther.
JoMamma_Smurf
Master Member
I can't wait for the posts from these white knights when they blame "the trolls" for the movies failure. I'll bet the farm they love ghostbusters 2016 
JoMamma_Smurf
Master Member
BOOM!! Exactly.
I can't wait for the posts from these white knights when they blame "the trolls" for the movies failure. I'll bet the farm they love ghostbusters 2016
I pity you and you're blinkered view of the world.
Why are you so threatened by a powerful woman?
I hope you learn to change and grow so that you don't get left behind when the rest of the world is moving on past petty attitudes like yours. Although from your attitude in your posts I think you will continue to blame other people from your own shortcomings.
Enjoy Captain Marvel. We all know you will end up watching it, otherwise why waste your time coming here to post about it.
There is no way that CM will do poorly as a result of a small percentage of the total cinema going audience boycotting it.
First off the mark:
Its a brand new MCU movie.
The gap between IW, Ant Man and the Wasp and the release of CM is considerable. And many fans who have waited to get some more info on IW will go to see this ,just to understand the effect that CM will have upon the MC universe. Marvel have been brilliant myth builders and their ability to rewrite, upgrade and make their characters more relevant and entertaining to a broader, more modern audience has been extraordinarily successful.
Secondly. Its not all about CM. Its what else comes along with her origin story into the MCU. There is an impressively strong cast of new characters and old ones returning. Who doesn't want to see more of Nick Fury and Coulson , plus some of GOTG characters? And, just as Rocket was well loved from GOTG, so is the new introduction of another furry character into the MCU. Plus we get Skrulls!!
Thirdly. Given the success of WW and even Aquaman for DC the desire for superhero movies that work well for all audiences , particularly worldwide, would suggest CM will have a similar appeal, especially to the younger generations and families. This is likely to carry the same broad social media event kudos as "The Black Panther", in that it has become a movie with alot of media discussion potential which is only really possible if you've gone to see it.
I always felt that "Solo" failed , not just because of the effect of the boycott ( which I don't think was that powerful), but because it was hardly relevant to general audiences outside of the SW franchise.It was also released far too close to TLJ and , in the middle of a heavy season of other similar blockbusters, couldn't compete.
CM will be an interesting box office test case for just how much of an effect certain social media sites can have upon a film BO performance. Having looked at what else is available either side of this, I believe the performance will be very strong.
First off the mark:
Its a brand new MCU movie.
The gap between IW, Ant Man and the Wasp and the release of CM is considerable. And many fans who have waited to get some more info on IW will go to see this ,just to understand the effect that CM will have upon the MC universe. Marvel have been brilliant myth builders and their ability to rewrite, upgrade and make their characters more relevant and entertaining to a broader, more modern audience has been extraordinarily successful.
Secondly. Its not all about CM. Its what else comes along with her origin story into the MCU. There is an impressively strong cast of new characters and old ones returning. Who doesn't want to see more of Nick Fury and Coulson , plus some of GOTG characters? And, just as Rocket was well loved from GOTG, so is the new introduction of another furry character into the MCU. Plus we get Skrulls!!
Thirdly. Given the success of WW and even Aquaman for DC the desire for superhero movies that work well for all audiences , particularly worldwide, would suggest CM will have a similar appeal, especially to the younger generations and families. This is likely to carry the same broad social media event kudos as "The Black Panther", in that it has become a movie with alot of media discussion potential which is only really possible if you've gone to see it.
I always felt that "Solo" failed , not just because of the effect of the boycott ( which I don't think was that powerful), but because it was hardly relevant to general audiences outside of the SW franchise.It was also released far too close to TLJ and , in the middle of a heavy season of other similar blockbusters, couldn't compete.
CM will be an interesting box office test case for just how much of an effect certain social media sites can have upon a film BO performance. Having looked at what else is available either side of this, I believe the performance will be very strong.
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firesprite
Master Member
Look at this child's face and tell me it doesn't matter that there are leading heroes coming to the big screen that she can aspire to.
Carol, in particular, is even better than Diana because she doesn't NEED her powers to be a hero to women and girls. She is a fighter pilot in the US Air Force. That is an achievable aspiration that this child might now have. In the comics, Carol wanted to fly the space shuttle one day. That said an achievable aspiration that this child might have.
To me, the bottom line is this: if you want to be offended by the existence of Captain Marvel, or a comment by its lead that is purposefully being twisted to take offense, that's fine. You're entitled to your opinion.
However, please remember that opinions are like ********. Everyone has them, and much like the flatulence that can come from them at times, we have the right to ignore your opinions.
Carol, in particular, is even better than Diana because she doesn't NEED her powers to be a hero to women and girls. She is a fighter pilot in the US Air Force. That is an achievable aspiration that this child might now have. In the comics, Carol wanted to fly the space shuttle one day. That said an achievable aspiration that this child might have.
To me, the bottom line is this: if you want to be offended by the existence of Captain Marvel, or a comment by its lead that is purposefully being twisted to take offense, that's fine. You're entitled to your opinion.
However, please remember that opinions are like ********. Everyone has them, and much like the flatulence that can come from them at times, we have the right to ignore your opinions.
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firesprite
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double post oops.
PantheraGem
Sr Member
On video that was taken at my Dad's 50th birthday bash in '97, my Mom is talking to Brie's parents, and mentions that one day their daughter is going to be a big actress. They really did look proud, especially her Dad. He sacrificed a lot to try and make her dream come true.
Brie and her sister were at my house all the time when they were young (I was 15 when Brie was born), and I do mean all the time. While our folks visited, I'd put on movies for the girls, and more than a few times it'd be an Indiana Jones movie, as Indy is an obsession I've had for a very long time. I was even supposed to go to one of Brie's birthday parties dressed in my Indy gear, though it didn't happen, mainly because I was just too shy to put on any kind of show I guess. In '99, I remember them visiting from SoCal. Brie and her Dad's girfriend's son sat and watched me play "Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine" on our brand new PC. We were just blown away.
Her and I talked a lot about movies. For a kid, she was very interested in the movie-making process. We were always checking out whatever new LaserDisc I had gotten. I remember switching back and forth between the VHS of "Temple of Doom" and the LaserDisc, for Brie, her sister, and their Mom; "Look at the difference in quality!".
In '96-'97, I was taking some studio production classes at the local jc. Her parents came to me with a bunch of footage of Brie singing, dancing, dressing up in a bunch of different outfits, and asked if I could edit it down into a little 5 minute or so video that they could send it down to some agencies. I was glad to do it, and apparently somebody down there liked it. Pretty soon she was in some skits on "The Tonight Show".
In '98, my little brother died. It was shortly after that, that Brie's mom called and told my Dad that she was leaving Brie's Dad.
She did become friends with Jake Lloyd, and before "The Phantom Menace" came out, she had him autograph that issue of Vanity Fair and gave it to me. I still have it.
In 2004, our families (- Brie and her sister's Mom) went and saw "Sleepover" at a theater in Elk Grove. Walking out, someone who had been in the theater recognized her and freaked out. It was a little surreal.
So yes, we were close. The last time I saw her was 2007 or so (yes, her and her Dad were fine). I guess her story needed a villain, so her Dad became that villain. She didn't live in squalor and survive off of McDonald's and top ramen. But everyone loves a rags-to-riches story, so they just made one up. In trying to make her Dad out to be a monster, she became one. Her sister and her Dad are very close and always have been. He is not a bad person or deadbeat dad, and he has been hounded for being as such.
As for her Dad and mine, they aren't really close anymore. The negativity kind of led to a depression of sorts and their friendship faded. So to see her propped up as a role model for little girls, is just sad, when I know where she came from, and all the support and cheerleaders she had here in Sacramento, the people and places she's essentially disowned.
Brie and her sister were at my house all the time when they were young (I was 15 when Brie was born), and I do mean all the time. While our folks visited, I'd put on movies for the girls, and more than a few times it'd be an Indiana Jones movie, as Indy is an obsession I've had for a very long time. I was even supposed to go to one of Brie's birthday parties dressed in my Indy gear, though it didn't happen, mainly because I was just too shy to put on any kind of show I guess. In '99, I remember them visiting from SoCal. Brie and her Dad's girfriend's son sat and watched me play "Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine" on our brand new PC. We were just blown away.
Her and I talked a lot about movies. For a kid, she was very interested in the movie-making process. We were always checking out whatever new LaserDisc I had gotten. I remember switching back and forth between the VHS of "Temple of Doom" and the LaserDisc, for Brie, her sister, and their Mom; "Look at the difference in quality!".
In '96-'97, I was taking some studio production classes at the local jc. Her parents came to me with a bunch of footage of Brie singing, dancing, dressing up in a bunch of different outfits, and asked if I could edit it down into a little 5 minute or so video that they could send it down to some agencies. I was glad to do it, and apparently somebody down there liked it. Pretty soon she was in some skits on "The Tonight Show".
In '98, my little brother died. It was shortly after that, that Brie's mom called and told my Dad that she was leaving Brie's Dad.
She did become friends with Jake Lloyd, and before "The Phantom Menace" came out, she had him autograph that issue of Vanity Fair and gave it to me. I still have it.
In 2004, our families (- Brie and her sister's Mom) went and saw "Sleepover" at a theater in Elk Grove. Walking out, someone who had been in the theater recognized her and freaked out. It was a little surreal.
So yes, we were close. The last time I saw her was 2007 or so (yes, her and her Dad were fine). I guess her story needed a villain, so her Dad became that villain. She didn't live in squalor and survive off of McDonald's and top ramen. But everyone loves a rags-to-riches story, so they just made one up. In trying to make her Dad out to be a monster, she became one. Her sister and her Dad are very close and always have been. He is not a bad person or deadbeat dad, and he has been hounded for being as such.
As for her Dad and mine, they aren't really close anymore. The negativity kind of led to a depression of sorts and their friendship faded. So to see her propped up as a role model for little girls, is just sad, when I know where she came from, and all the support and cheerleaders she had here in Sacramento, the people and places she's essentially disowned.
firesprite
Master Member
Not to mitigate your feelings, but I have to wonder what this story has to do with anything. No one here is talking about idolizing Brie herself, but the character she's playing.
Also... Everyone comes from somewhere. Regardless of how close you were with her family, you weren't IN her family. It doesn't matter how close to someone you are, unless you're actually LIVING in their house day in and day out, you simply don't know everything that goes on in their lives.
I'm sorry that you feel slighted by Brie's success, but that's not really germane to this discussion.
Egon Spengler
Master Member
I’ll be seeing it because it’s Marvel and they
rarely disappoint. I know little about this character but same went for Antman which were super fun. First female Marvel lead I guess is big for some but I’m more intrigued by this “cat” character and from what I heard may give Rocket some grief down the road. LOL I do hope we get to a point where the whole female action/super/etc hero thing isn’t celebrated each time like its some kind of first every time. I’ve been watching them since WW and Bionic Woman were on TV and Ripley was in the movies after all. That is a long time ago now.
rarely disappoint. I know little about this character but same went for Antman which were super fun. First female Marvel lead I guess is big for some but I’m more intrigued by this “cat” character and from what I heard may give Rocket some grief down the road. LOL I do hope we get to a point where the whole female action/super/etc hero thing isn’t celebrated each time like its some kind of first every time. I’ve been watching them since WW and Bionic Woman were on TV and Ripley was in the movies after all. That is a long time ago now.
robn1
Master Member
This, a thousand times. There have been strong positive female characters for as long as there have been movies, it's nothing new.
Strikerkc
Sr Member
Honestly, I think most of us are there. I've never run across a buddy or acquaintance that went "was gonna see that new movie, but it's about a chick, and those movies suck; totally disinterested now".
Not one.
I'm not saying those people aren't out there, I'm saying I haven't met them, and don't know where they are.
firesprite
Master Member
Well, you're certainly a lucky one.
Maybe I'm a little more sensitive to it because I'm sick to death of guys feeling they can question my geek cred (happens all the time, so please let's not with "not all guys").
I, too, would like to see a day when movies like Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel aren't such an unusual occurrence that they're lauded just for existing. We'll get there, eventually, but until then, some people will just have to suck it up and deal.
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