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Limited Run Captain America: The Winter Soldier - Bucky's Arm

Discussion in 'Project Runs' started by MrRoboto, Apr 7, 2015.

  1. MrRoboto

    MrRoboto Active Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    [UPDATE 4/20/2016]

    MAJOR LADY UPDATE:

    Ladies! (and possibly smaller-framed gentlemen)! I've had enough personal, direct requests to make these in a smaller size (same design, just scaled down) that I'm going to run some tests. IF I can resize my master sculpt in an economical way, I've started an interest thread - f enough of you buy in to cover my costs, I'll make it happen!

    http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=259850&p=3964888#post3964888


    [UPDATE 4/18/2016]

    Now offering a finished, chrome-plated option! See post on Page 2 for images, or read more and contact me about them HERE:

    http://www.soloroboto.com/store/winter-soldier-chrome/

    FINGERS:

    I've successfully finished these and cast a test set. I'm modifying them and remolding this week, and will update with a price when I'm done (like everything else, they'll be sold through my store).


    [UPDATE 7/22]

    Corrected the info from PRE-ORDER to ACTIVELY SHIPPING.
    Added LENGTH measurement (thanks to teslamonty for catching this)
    Photos of CHROME on Page 2.

    [UPDATE 6/2]

    Added shipping rates to this post.

    FINGERS
    Fingers are currently slated to be an additional charge - only 1 person has both pre-ordered an arm and expressed an interest thus far. Will update with a price when I've successfully cast some and know how much trouble they'll be.

    [UPDATE 4/22]

    Changing this to a LIMITED RUN.


    Pricing:

    Price is $300, plus shipping.

    Shipping to the US and Canada is $45 and includes insurance, tracking, and signature on delivery.
    International Shipping is $80 (including UK, Canada, Russia, and Australia) and includes insurance and tracking. Allow 6-10 days for international shipping. (Other countries, PM me)


    Ordering Info:

    As with my Star-Lord helmet kit, this will be available through my store, at http://www.soloroboto.com/store/winter-soldier

    The Arm is available NOW.

    This is a limited run of only 10 Arm Kits.
    These will likely be the only 10 I sell.

    I ship these out in batches when I have enough orders to justify making a run to the shipping center. I cast / ship when I have enough orders across ALL my kits (so the sooner you place an order, the sooner everybody's gets delivered).


    Details:

    The Arm is cast in 2 parts - a foream section, and a bicep/shoulder section. This allows it to "break" at the elbow and allow about 30 degrees of motion. Wearing a silver sleeve underneath hides the opening when the arm is bent.

    When I finished the first one, I further split the forearm section into 2, making more room for a hand to slide into place. I backed every seam with fiberglass flanges and magnets so it all snaps together when positioned correctly, making it appear seamless.

    2015-04-07 13.45.40.jpg

    There's several reasons I did a hard cast, but the main one is that I can chrome plate it (yes, with real chrome), and you can't chrome plate rubber. (Other reasons include making it FAR easier to put on - no working your hand through a difficult elbow bend; that I'm more comfortable with hard materials - I can sand out seam lines and trim things up afterwards and modify as needed; and that the "hero" arm in the film was hard cast and chrome plated, while "stunt" arms were semi-rigid foam cut to size and shape for various uses, though 95% of what's seen in the final film is CGI anyway.)

    I will NOT be offering a single-piece, flexible casting.


    Photos:

    2015-04-03 18.31.52.jpg 2015-04-03 18.32.27.jpg 2015-04-03 18.34.24.jpg 2015-04-03 18.33.29.jpg


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    Movement Video:



    You'll notice he starts with it "snapped in" - that's literally just rare earth magnets and fiberglass flanges. It connects tightly enough that it makes and audible "pop" when it comes apart, and when it re-seats itself. He's able to get it locked in place on his own just by wiggling his arm around.


    Fitting Images:

    The client has 26" arms (measured from the shoulder seam of a tshirt, to the wrist).

    2015-04-11 18.10.01.jpg 2015-04-11 18.09.23.jpg 2015-04-11 18.09.52.jpg



    Measurements:

    I measured the circumference around the outside, did the math based on 1/8" thick walls, and calculated the approximate interior circumference. So if your arm is this size or smaller at these points, you SHOULD fit (no guarantees, since everybody is proportioned differently).

    UPDATED TO NEW MEASUREMENTS (7/4/2015)

    Bicep: ~16 3/4"
    Elbow: ~14 1/4"
    Forearm (widest): ~14 3/4"
    Wrist (narrowest): ~8 3/4"
    Length (shoulder seam on a shirt to bend at wrist): ~26"
     
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  2. emersonyahir

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    PM sent!!

    Emerson M.
     
  3. Destarius

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    Any give in these? I wouldn't consider myself "too buff" for it but I just fall outside of the measurements for the biceps. Guess the ideal question would be, how buff is too buff?
     
  4. starlordquill

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    My buddy is interested pending price. Probably a hard version.
    Would the flexible version crinkle up at the elbow when bent?
     
  5. MrRoboto

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    The hard cast have no stretch - possibly a tiny amount of bend, but you can't squeeze more into a solid tube. I'm not positive of the actual size that will fit inside - it's really hard to measure because of the complex curves, and the fact that no 2 people are shaped exactly the same. I'll try to get a slightly better estimate shortly.
     
  6. MrRoboto

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    Anything overly flexible will crinkle, yes. A silicone or soft rubber arm will wrinkle anywhere it bends a lot.

    One cast out of a semi rigid plastic like Task 12... I'm not sure. That stuff bends a lot, but it's still quite stuff, so movement would be possible but slow. I think it'd feel kind of like wearing one of those hydraulic door closing things like on screen doors - it'd fight you in every direction, but eventually it'd go where you told it.
     
  7. Destarius

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    Interested pending price of a hard cast one and availability or larger ones if possible
     
  8. MrRoboto

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    I'm thinking these will be priced in the neighborhood of $350, based on other items I see for sale.

    I'd love to offer larger ones so they'd fit more people. But since larger casts will require a new sculpt and mold, I need either a greater number of buyers, or a much higher price.
     
  9. MrRoboto

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    Since there seems to be some confusion as to the state of this project: the arm is finished. It's done. The photos are of exactly what you'd get. (The only potential exception would be if there's enough demand for a LARGER arm, which would require additional sculpting. Otherwise I'd just be re-molding the sculpt as it exists now.) The silver arm is painted with Alclad Chrome, and the black ones are trimmed up castings in Smooth-On Onyx, though I'd be shipping unfinished, raw casts (the same, just with some flashing).

    I've uploaded the one photo I have so far of the client in the full costume. While yes, it's been shopped for effect, the arm itself hasn't been touched. That's what it looks like on a body.
     
  10. Jango Wes

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    I'm digging this! It looks so much better than the one I have. It may be a month or two down the line, but I am definitely interested. I'm not sure which style though. I'd like to see the one piece and the 2 piece being worn with no effects photoshopped to get a better idea of what they look like. That would probably be a huge selling point for others as well.
     
  11. MrRoboto

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    Unfortunately I can't afford to invest the time or money into making a 1 piece mold until I know there's enough interest in it.

    The existing molds (there are 2 because it's cast in 2 pieces) use over a gallon of silicone. And they're barely 1/4" thick.

    That said, I should be getting my hands on the finished one this week, and I'll get some photos of the client in it to post.
     
  12. MrRoboto

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    UPDATE:

    My client came by yesterday with the arm, so I was able to get a few images of how it fits. It's amazingly hard to photograph that sort of thing...

    So we took a video as well. I've updated the first post with both the images and video.

    You'll notice he starts with it "snapped in" - that's literally just rare earth magnets and fiberglass flanges. It connects tightly enough that it makes and audible "pop" when it comes apart, and when it re-seats itself. He's able to get it locked in place on his own just by wiggling his arm around. He got pretty good at it after wearing the arm for around 6 hours during Wonder Con.
     
  13. MrRoboto

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    Also updated with accurate measurements based on the current sculpt.

    I WILL be bulking out the sculpt somewhat more before I remold it, especially in the thinner forearm/wrist area (to make it easier to get on), and in the elbow joint (for a little more mobility, and to accommodate larger arms) - so those numbers will be INCREASING.

    I measured the outer circumference at several points, did the math to account for 1/8" thick walls, and got an approximate inner circumference. So, for example, if you have 16" biceps or smaller, you'd fit in that section. No guarantees, since everybody is shaped a bit differently.

    Most of the sculpt has thinner walls, but it's not perfectly even (it's a crazy weird shape to slush cast). And there's of course a lot of variation in the shape of the arm - the muscle physiology is a combination of replicating the film, and one of my body builder friend's actual arms. The variation in musculature between 2 people, even of the same size, is amazing.

    But that should give you a good idea of if it'll fit you.
     
  14. PunisherNC

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    Double up and make one for the other arm for Colossus and I'm in
     
  15. MrRoboto

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    lol. That's funny.

    Now, if this had been a 3D render that I could just mirror... maaaaaybe.
     
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  16. PunisherNC

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    A fanboy can dream, right? Beautiful work, my friend
     
  17. MrRoboto

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    If I set the price for hard casts of these at $350, who would be interested?

    (You've all basically said "interested pending price", but nobody has said what that price would be).
     
  18. starlordquill

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    While I'm not sure what his range really is my buddy did say $350 was a tad steep for him
     
  19. thatdancingtroo

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    Interested! PM sent as well =)
    I don't really know if I'd prefer hard or flex. Id have to also think about if the gap in the bend of the arm really bothers me or not. All things to think about!
     
  20. MrRoboto

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    I'm on my way home from Big Wow ComicFest in San Jose, where I showed the arm and took a sort of informal poll on a fair price.

    I think I'm going to offer 2 piece, hard cast resin kits for $300.

    To the two of you with a passing interest in one piece, flexible kits... Sorry. Between you you'd over the cost of rubber, and that's about it.

    If there's ever enough interest in a one piece version, I can always remold. But for now it stays 2 pieces.

    If anybody has any more input I'd love to hear it, and I'll be updating the first post (and thread title) with specifics sometime in the next week.
     
  21. thatdancingtroo

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    I can do $300 depending on how quickly you can get one done, my money is ready! =P
    Sorry for the rush, just let me know
     
  22. MrRoboto

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    Updated the first post to reflect current details, and changed the topic to LTD RUN.

    I'll be adding the appropriate item to my store shortly (basically once I know what shipping will cost, which should be this weekend), and will update when it's live.
     
  23. MrRoboto

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    If you need it like, next week, I can cast up one at the current size. But my mold was damaged during all the trouble I had with it, so there's a handful of decent lumps and blemishes in castings from it now. Yet another reason I'm reworking it.
     
  24. thatdancingtroo

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    In a perfect world, I'd like it in my possession by May 10th. So depending on shipping times, that gives about 2 weeks to get it done. If the imperfections are not horrible, I don't think I'd mind but I'd have to trust your judgment on that.
     
  25. agentjencosplay

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    I'm interested. Will the pre order be through your store? also are the magnets part of the kit? It's just a kit right not painted? does this include fingers too?
     
  26. MrRoboto

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    It will all be handled through my store. It's the easiest system all around: I don't have to keep track (I can set the stock to 10 and just let it sell out), and you guys don't have to message or remind me about anything.

    I am sculpting fingers as well, but I haven't decided if those will be separate or included. It'll depend how easy they are to cast.

    If the fingers are a major selling point let me know!

    No magnets will be included. This will just be a raw, resin kit.
     
  27. agentjencosplay

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    I would really like to have fingers with it too! Also I was wondering how you did the chrome on it? or what you would recommend for painting it?
     
  28. MrRoboto

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    The one in the photos is painted with Alclad Chrome (comes in bottles for airbrush, or in half size rattle cans).

    When I get it chromed I'll take it to a local shop and let the professionals do it. Real chrome isn't something you can do at home. ;)

    Here's a marginally related photo of another project I did that's plated with real metal chrome.
    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1429940248.491104.jpg
     
  29. MrRoboto

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    Added the Arm to my store: http://www.soloroboto.com/store/winter-soldier

    Price is set at $300.
    Shipping is $45 to the US, and includes insurance, tracking, and signature confirmation for delivery.

    I'll be out of my shop from mid May until early June, so these won't be going out until Mid June (mostly depending on if I take on a few commissions for ACBC in 2 weeks, and how far that sets me back).

    Only 10, and likely to only ever be 10.
     
  30. MrRoboto

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    I'm headed to Atlantic City Boardwalk Con on Tuesday, so I'll be out of the shop for 2 weeks. I've seen a few pre-orders come in (thanks!), so I'll be working on the resculpt/remold of this guy once I return, as well as filling orders for my Star-Lord helmet (http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=237275).

    [EDIT 5/31] My current plan is to NOT include the Fingers. If you WANT them, respond here and shoot me a PM with your order info, and I'll figure out a price.

    And for those asking for a template for the star: I just googled "5 pointed star", picked one, and scaled it until I was happy.
     
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  31. MrRoboto

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    Bump for those on the fence. When I get back to the shop next week, I'll be finishing this guy and casting orders. If you want one before July, now's the time to get an order in.

    I've also only seen one person interested in Fingers. Unless more people speak up, they'll be considered an add-on item, and be extra $.
     
  32. 2007brandony

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    Hi! I preordered a set from your store and would love the fingers included!
    I'll pm you my order details!
     
  33. MrRoboto

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    UPDATE: New Master sculpt and molding is complete, and the first pulls came out great!

    I've updated the first post with new measurements (all of them slightly larger - I'll get photos of the difference up soon).

    And for THIS WEEKEND THROUGH MONDAY ONLY, to celebrate the 4th of July, I'm putting these on sale for $274 plus shipping. Because what better way to celebrate America than with an American Army hero turned Russian super-soldier turned American Icon?
     
  34. MrRoboto

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    Here are the photos of the added space. This got tweaked a little through bondo and sanding, obviously, but it shows the basic idea. I split the arm down the middle and stretched it out, then filled the gap.

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  35. MrRoboto

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    I got the redone arm back from the chromer and finished just before SDCC last week. For those curious, this is what the kit looks like taken directly to chrome - I only had to fill a single bubble with bondo - no sanding, paint, or prep of any kind. (There's a bit of work to add in the flanges, and paint the star after...). All I did was trim and dremel the edges.

    Next one of these I think I'll have finished in a slightly more sating nickel finish - this is almost TOO shiny.

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  36. MrRoboto

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    Actively shipping these now. Also updated first post with a couple more measurements.
     
  37. MrRoboto

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    Bumping because people keep asking when the next "run" will be - it's as soon as I get enough orders in total across ALL my kits, then I cast / ship everything.
     
  38. MrRoboto

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    So, the Captain America: Civil War trailer dropped, and obviously it's awesome. So awesome I decided to do a weekend / Thanksgiving / Black Friday sale on these kits: $50 off until Sunday! I've only got 3 of these Arms left, they're never going to get any cheaper, and this is it for these.

    And if you want it chromed (full polish or satin - pictured here), I can always accommodate that.

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  39. JayCVenlo

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    great finish!
     
  40. MrRoboto

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    I was recently reminded that I haven't updated this thread with listings for getting Chrome Plated Arms! Sorry about that everybody!

    So, YES, I AM selling these fully chromed now (same assumptions as the original option - read the measurements and make sure you fit, I can only modify them so much). Post with full details (and a link to contact me about buying) is here:

    http://www.soloroboto.com/store/winter-soldier-chrome/
     
  41. MrRoboto

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    Additional update for Ladies (and possible smaller-framed dudes, I don't discriminate)!

    I've finally had enough personal requests for an arm that would fit those of a smaller stature and frame, that I'll be running some tests this week to see if I can re-work my master in an economical fashion. If I can, then I'll be creating an Interest Thread to see how many people are actually willing to fork over the money for one. If enough people commit that it covers my costs, then I'll make it happen for you!

    So keep an eye out for that, I guess - I'll cross post a link here if/when that thread happens.
     
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