Captain America TFA Build - Status 99.9% - Full Dress Pics pg4-post 77

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  1. sgmorton

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    ok I was on a thread here ... http://www.therpf.com/f24/captain-america-tfa-pieces-parts-127685/#post2150352 looking for bits for my TFA costume and I posted a pic of my fabric that spurned this thread so here you go...

    I am shooting to be done by All-Con in Dallas Spring Break (march 16th is my drop dead day)


    I broke my Cap down into parts

    Helmet
    I purchased the helmet as a rough cast ages ago. Before the Blu-Ray I think the movie was barely out of theaters... I forget who sculpted it. I think there are better sculpts out there and I may redo it at some point.

    I finished and painted... yada yada... typical for the likes of the RPF...

    I made the inner liner from an old bomber jacket I've had since the 80s. Some of the earflap material came from a purse I bought at Ross discount store on clearance for $12, I would like the padding to be a little thicker.

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    Shield

    I met Chris Fields at Dcon 2011 and inquired about his shield then. I was blown away and knew the bar had been set. When he decided to do runs of the shield I was to financially challenged to get one of his shields so I set out to make my own. I ordered a spun aluminum shield from the shop Chris posted in his thread, but asked them to change the ring size slightly. In my scaling I was not convinced that the ring size I had seen on previous versions were correct and that the center circle in particular needed to have an adjusted proportion.

    I found Valor's two excellent threads on his shield and ordered a Star for the center from him. (I later want to counter sink the star but for my deadline there is no time) On Valor's thread the rattle can paint was mentioned, I took that paint to a body shop that I do website work for and bartered a deal where they will use it as a color match and put me an automotive grade paint job on the shield. They have a $50,000 paint booth so I assume they can do a better job that I! I get that shield back this week sometime.

    I am using Valor's excellent thread to make the shield brackets and more of that will come in the following 3 weeks including pictures.

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    Holster and Belt

    The holster was the 1st thing I bought for this build. it's a 1916 holster and I got it from auction arms back in the summer of 2011. So long ago the listing is now gone... For the rigging I went to Tandy leather and bought the raw materials I needed and started building. I built the protoypes from paper before committing them to leather. I used a medium brown Flebings Leather Dye. All of the parts are assembled with brass chicago screws and I did a fair amount of weathering to the straps to make them look, well, weathered. Before I dyed the leather I wet all of the strapping and rolled it, this makes it a little more supple and created some crags and wrinkles to make it look used.

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    For the belt I started with a 3" strap of leather from Tandy and Bambats buckle. I painted the buckle and silvered it and weathered it. Again I used the wetting technique for character and dyed it with the Flebings. The buckle is cast in smoothcast I think but I am uncomfortable with it being weight bearing so had to make an inner belt.

    For the inner belt I used a nylon belt I got from Lowes used to hold up toolbelt bags. Using chicago screws I attached it to remove the pressure from the buckle and still be solid and confident on my waist. See the pic it explains this way better than I could. The silver part you see in the pic is just the keep for the extra flap that is left hanging after hooking on the nylon belt.

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    The Pouches

    After looking high and low I decided these were custom made. I decided I wanted to make some myself but my deadline is problem so I went with plan B and honestly I think it may work out more to my liking. I took some old extra pouches I had from my Fallout costume and used these as a base. I removed the strap and upper flap. I then cut the upper flap to match the movie and sewed the flap and strap back on in the proper orientation. Added a brass post from Tandy and there you have it. I plan to freshen these a little as I think they look a little to worn at the moment, nothing a little elbow grease and shoe polish won't fix.

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    Greeblies

    Boots: found for sale on the League of Heros forum. Paratrooper boots.

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    Gloves: found a pair that was a close match but needed a little work. Added the cuff and buckle. Still some work to be done here. I think the buckle is to big and I need a curved buckle.
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    ....and finally softparts....

    Material Material Material!
    We all want it and it's hard to get I know I looked high and low and rfead read read until I was cornflower blue!

    So the original material is Ballistic Nylon with a rubber back that came in Gray and was dyed to color then screen printed for the Herringbone. YUCK! that means no one is going to get the original material period. I ordered sample after sample on the internet all were fails. I visited Textile fabric makers and ever mom and pop fabric store I could find and finally found this. I put my hand there for reference to the size of the stripes.

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    The material is not wool... it needs to be lined as it is very flexible and does not behave like the "ballistic nylon". It does have a good "sheen" to it and reacts to the lighting condition for photos the way I would expect. Finding this was the catalyst I needed to make a go at the costume. With the help of my mom, yes I am 44 and she still helps me! I started to put the pieces together one bit at a time.

    Pants
    Pants with the patches are made.

    Vest (blue)
    We have the uppervest blue parts (all 8 freaking panels) complete.

    Vest (white/abs)
    The ab section is in mocked, cut and awaiting final assembly now. This is not herringbone material BTW look closely!

    Sleeves and collar
    I am making the sleeves and collar together as one "dickie" to wear under the vest. So here we go again!!!!! The sleeves are Herringbone as well only they are white. Whoa whoa I know you are going to say silver "I" "me" "I" feel they are white and have gray weathering. The few beauty shots we have of the suit are under "interesting" lighting making the sleeves look gray. Also the sleeves are not the same material as the white abs section, the abs have ashy weathering to bring out the shadow of the ab pieces and I believe the same gray ashy weathering is on the sleeves to make them look more gray.

    Back to how I did it... when looking for material I initially though of buying a Fisher Stripe overall set and tailoring it. I bought this ... Key 995-18 Fisher Stripe Deluxe Unlined Long Sleeve Coverall think it looked spot on! Well colors on the internet and colors IRL, let's just say they are different! Dramatically! With that being a bust I decided to make lemonade. I cut the overalls just under the armpit essentially making a pair of sleeves to wear. Then using Rit Color Remover several times I was able to washout all of the color leaving me with a white set of sleeves. I removed the collar and and we are now making a new "Chinese" collar, and will cover the exposed area with the blue fabric. I will weather the sleeves to the desired silvery gray color when finished.

    The shoulders
    ... they are next on the chopping block!

    The Red Belts
    I bought some basics from Strapworks.com but have not started on them yet.


    .... this is the pic that got me to make this thread.

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    In addition. My wife is doing the USO costume with 4 other girls so I may escort them at the con. More to come as the next few weeks unfold.


    NOTE ON THE MATERIAL

    I will post the info on the fabric as soon as I finish. I have enough material to finish but if I make a mistake I want to be able to get more. There is not enough left on the bolt to make a full costume anyway. I will get all the info when I go back to the store in the coming few weeks. I know I will be back there a couple more times. I promise everyone I will answer all I can as soon as I finish. I am under the gun until mid March.


    thanks...
     
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2012
  2. NuRF

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    Excellent work. Those pouches look fantastic. Can't wait to see it all together. I hope your able to mock up some patterns for the fabric sections when your done. I know there's gonna be a load of people wanting them.
     
  3. Finhead

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    Very nice work. Great find on the fabric as well. Can you share any info on what the belt pouches were before you moded them? They look perfect as in IMO. Thanks for sharing.:thumbsup
     
  4. Gator Fett

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    Thanks for sharing your build. Fantastic progress!
     
  5. Chris Fields

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    Yeah, looking great so far! looking forward to seeing the progress. Any leads on that fabric?
     
  6. usconcept

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    Have you guys considered buying a few overly large duffels and stealing the fabric from it? A few floating on the web seem to be the right color
     
  7. Sandman0077

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    Awesome work. I will be making one of the belt rigs for another member soon. The only thing I have noticed from yours is you have the right 1916 holster but the wrong model. TFA uses the dismount version. You seem to have the cavalry mounted version. Same holster but different hanging platform. But your leather work is great!
     
  8. Kevin Gossett

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    Re: Captain America TFA Build - Status 70% (long first post)

    Excellent thread. Can't wait to see it all finished!
     
  9. Chris Fields

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    oh? I have not seen those... any links? I just did a quick search but didn't come up with anything.
     
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  11. Crusaderman2004

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    Re: Captain America TFA Build - Status 70% (long first post)

    Man, this build looks good. What a great find on the fabric. Thanks for sharing your progress, although now I'm jealous of what you've done. :)
     
  12. littledragon88

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    Wow, I can't wait to see the finished costume!!!
     
  13. Chris Fields

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    not sure, I'd have to see it in person, but, it appears to have no pattern on it.
     
  14. usconcept

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    Doh, that's what I get for viewing stuff on my phone instead of a computer.. ill keep my eye out and get back to you!
     
  15. sgmorton

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    Re: Captain America TFA Build - Status 70% (long first post)

    I cannot imagine getting pieces large enough to make the pants from bags even if you could find the Herringbone pattern.

    Here is the "dickie" I mentioned in post one... this is before we took the collar off and added the blue parts.
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    You can see from this pic that is has the Fisher Stripe/Herringbone Pattern... it was originally a dark navy and gray color.
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    I used RIT Color Revmover to get it to this color. This only works on cotton based materials. Anything polyester will not let go of it's color as you see the red is still a light red stripe. Same goes for dye. It's very hard to dye if it's not cotton...
     
  16. sgmorton

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    I know there are bit to my costume that I will probably go back correct in time. When I first bought the holster this was the closest match I could find. It was only from one or two shots from the movie and long before the BluRay came out where I could look more carefully.


    Depending on the love I have for the costume I will either wear it a few times and be done or continue to improve it. I think I am going to love wearing this so it's on the path for continued improvement over it's life.
     
  17. VaultUK

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    That's looking great
     
  18. Kevin Gossett

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    I can't get over the holster and belt rig... Really has me wanting one for my shield display
     
  19. TV8

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    Great build, watching this with interest. I like the belt and holster especially - they look like they've been through WW2 itself!
     
  20. sgmorton

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    Re: Help Needed post 20! Captain America TFA Build - Status 70% (long first post)

    I need some help...

    I cannot find a couple of things for this build...

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    First is the pouches on the chest belt. I have looked everywhere and can find nothing close.

    Second I neeed help with some of the DRings.
    1. the triangle shaped rings.... there are 6 of them. Cannot find but easily made if need be.
    2. the 2.5" rectangle ring that holds the suspenders. Also the Ladder Lock for the suspenders. - I have some 3" plastic ones I am going to cut down if I need to but I'd prefer to find them on some old rigging somewhere maybe from an old climbing harness or parachute harness.


    Third is the little brass ends on the belts... again easily made but I like finding old parts and re purposing them. I've learned how to age things but nothing compares to actual old parts that age naturally. I think it give character to your costume and I will gladly pay a premium in money and or sweat for that character.
    If anyone knows where I can locate these pieces please please say so!
     
    Last edited: Feb 27, 2012
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  22. Chris Fields

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    Re: Help Needed post 20! Captain America TFA Build - Status 70% (long first post)

    Yeah, I'm not even going to do the over shoulder belt... I just like the suit better with out it. I have had no luck in finding those parts either, so I'm making them myself. Any leads or names for that fabric you found?
     
  23. sgmorton

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    See my first post for fabric ... Soon I promise... By March 16th
     
  24. Chris Fields

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    Hey, reread the first post, I didn't see a name of the fabric or maker. Any idea? Does the place you purchased it from still have any left? Thanks again.
     
  25. sgmorton

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    Re: Help Needed post 20! Captain America TFA Build - Status 70% (long first post)

    NOTE ON THE MATERIAL

    I will post the info on the fabric as soon as I finish. I have enough material to finish but if I make a mistake I want to be able to get more. There is not enough left on the bolt to make a full costume anyway. I will get all the info when I go back to the store in the coming few weeks. I know I will be back there a couple more times. I promise everyone I will answer all I can as soon as I finish. I am under the gun until mid March.
     
  26. usconcept

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    You really shouldn't need to apologize.. by sharing the information in advance of completion you could totally shoot yourself in the foot supply wise..

    Kudos to you for the heads up though!
     
  27. Chris Fields

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    Ah, didn't see that note. Gotcha. I was just going to see if any of my local companies could get that fabric in. Not trying to take your supplies. :)
     
  28. sgmorton

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  29. usconcept

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    Looks good!
     
  30. Chris Fields

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    yeah, looking great :)
     
  31. Joe Pep

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    Re: Help Needed post 20! Captain America TFA Build - Status 80% (long first post)

    I think it looks great so far. I like the us holster for the gun. I was just thinking, what about on top of the blue top maybe scale maille. If you where able to find the same colour that would look awesome and totally blend in together..
     
  32. Chris Fields

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    Joe, he's going for the TFA movie look, no scale maille on that suit. But scale is always cool looking I think.
     
  33. sgmorton

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    Shield looking good!
     
  34. merkymerx

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    Re: Help Needed post 20! Captain America TFA Build - Status 80% (long first post)

    Very impressive and inspiring build! May I ask what kind of paint was used for the shield? I wasn't quite sure if it was anodized paint or a candy color.

    Looking forward to more updates from this thread :)
     
  35. sgmorton

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    my favorite quote ever - If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.

    Chris Fields paved the way with this thread - http://www.therpf.com/f9/captain-america-shield-119947/

    Then Valor came in with this thread - http://www.therpf.com/f9/metal-movie-cap-shield-budget-done-final-pics-page-4-a-128238/ and followed it with 2.0 - http://www.therpf.com/f9/version-2-0-movie-metal-cap-shield-134819/

    It's a very long winded way of saying thank you to both of these guys for inspiring me to move forward with my desire to do this costume. To answer your question on the paint ...

    I used Valor's paint find and got some help from my buddy that owns a body shop! [​IMG]

    Guys I am so geeked out on this shield it's beautiful!
     
  36. Chris Fields

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    Beautiful!! And thanks :)
     
  37. Valor

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    Re: Help Needed post 20! Captain America TFA Build - Status 80% (long first post)

    And you sir, are inspiring us right back! What a great costume build! Question, Did the auto painters use their own paint? And did they spray a nice hard catalyzing clear on the front, back and star? Curious, I'm heading into my third shield build and I'm going the catalyzed clearcoat route, but I'd like to stick with the anodized paint I used before. Good job again, carry on soldier!
     
  38. Finhead

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    Re: Help Needed post 20! Captain America TFA Build - Status 80% (long first post)

    Yes 2k clear can be applied over the anodized paint with no issue at all as long as it is fully cured before application. I'm a bodyman by trade so felt I could answer your question. :)

    Oh and the build is looking spectacular. :thumbsup
     
  39. sgmorton

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    I have not gotten your answer back from my friend. After we did the paint he kept the shield for three days and cleared it when he was doing clear on a car they were working on. As soon as he tells me I will let you know.


    Btw have you seen this? Authentic Captain America Shield used in The First Avenger Filming | eBay

    One side of the bracket is shorter than the other!
    I'll try and rip the picture later when I am on a real computer.
     
  40. Kevin Gossett

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    Re: Help Needed post 20! Captain America TFA Build - Status 80% (long first post)

    Of course it is! You want your hand/fist to be closer to the edge of the shield than in the center, so you offset the brackets to match that. Exactly how Chris does his brackets :thumbsup

    Also, it's interesting that Chris Evans signed the shield upside down...
     
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  41. Finhead

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    Here ya go. Chis has been using this design for his shields for awhile, been a known detail for quit some time. ;)


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  42. usconcept

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    Seeing this one makes my jaw drop even more about how accurate Chris' is
     
  43. drakeprimeone

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    That is such a beautiful paint job!
     
  44. Chris Fields

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    I was going to say, but others already have. Yeah, not sure why the reason they offset it. Originally they had Evans gripping the larger section, you can see this in the behind the scenes shots on the DVD. At some point they switched it so that he was gripping the shorter side. There was never any reason given for this offset. My guess was it was so that when Evans held the shield in a natural position, they either wanted it to sit higher or lower on his arm. I asked if the seller if that one in the auction is an Aluminum Hero prop or a resin/rubber stunt shield. Hopefully they'll get back to me. Judging by the back (being real rough and no clean edges), it looks like one of the resin/rubber stunt shields, but the front looks like one of the Hero Aluminum ones. I guess we'll find out.
     
  45. Chris Fields

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    Hey, any progress on the suit? Looking forward to seeing her complete. If I can help with anything, let me know. Also looking forward to seeing that beautiful shield on your arm with the suit.
     
  46. sgmorton

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    Re: Help Needed post 20! Captain America TFA Build - Status 80% (long first post)

    weekend update: sorry no pics...

    Finished the red belts, and managed to find some parts to make the square rings that hold the belts up, the ladder locks and the belt tips.

    Finished the collar hook and put that whole thing to bed.

    Finished all the over stitching required on vest, pants and patches.

    Made a bunch of gray strapping from material intended to be used for sun umbrellas or awnings. This is for the shoulder pad harness bits.

    Made a prototype for the shoulder padding cap end.

    Working on the other shoulder parts this week hope to assemble by or on the weekend.

    Made harness for the shield, scrapped it, made another hated it! Finally made a third I think I can live with. I am waiting for a part to come in so I can mount the harness to the shield. I expect everything to really come together later this week and weekend. I decided to go with some variations to the original harness. More in the mounting. Pics to come as I complete it.
     
  47. usconcept

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    Woo! Looking forward to it
     
  48. sgmorton

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    another little update...

    ok I failed at making the small shield harness bracketets up to the quality I need ... so in the interim I needed a solution while I get them machined. This is what I am going to use for this con.

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    couple more shots of progress...

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  49. BobbyS95

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    It's lookin good
     
  50. merkymerx

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    Wow! You're making really good progress. Very nice work!

    What did you use for the raised padded section in the abs and the shoulder pads if I may ask? Foamies? :)
     

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