Darth Niob
Sr Member
Good point.
YesAre you serious ?
No, never said that to me they point to one of two likely scenarios, of which I believe weigh equal...People point out at least half a dozen things where the sculpt of TM's helmet is different from Gino's or TE's not small details actual structure but to you these differences say the things a recast.
Gino says the faceplate matches the Gino/TE face almost exactly and that is enough for you even though you've already been told at least half a dozen major differences.
TM is automatically lying to you rather than Gino is wrong on what grounds ?
Is it because like Gino you think it's impossible to sculpt something like that ?
And now the magic bump yes absolute conclusive evidence not only does the bump move on the two helmets that do have it it's a good few mm across and prominent enough on the form anyone would see it instantly if they were cleaning up tells is left intact.
That to me is beyond coincidence also because i can't see how someone can clean up a helmet removing tells that are so small they wouldn't ever be visible on the outside would miss it.
So in conclusion if something looks similar to an original in any form that to you screams recast ?
wow i guess practically everything on this board must be either cast from original or recast to you then.
I mean there's just no possible way anybody can sculpt or scratchbuild anything that good right.
I'm glad you're a lawyer and not a judge.
LOL, touche
So when did TM blow a fuse? how did I miss that and can we see it again?
Seriously though. shame, damn shame.
The word Hijacked springs to mind.
Yes
No, never said that to me they point to one of two likely scenarios, of which I believe weigh equal...
1. Original sculpt
2. Clean up and/or changes to an existing form
Please show me where TM has even bothered to be part of this discussion here? What I see when I woke up today is that he is banned from here because he flew off the handle or so the staff says... The lack of any defense and the fact for the lack of a better word he threw a temper tantrum, leads me to believe he had something to hide... This type of reaction is almost the picture perfect stereotype skit played out for most guilty recasters in this hobby... I have seen it played out time and time again...
I would say yes, the trooper helmet is a hard sculpt to get "just right" when you look at TM's other parts they are no where near the attention to detail of his helmet, the armor looks like a fan sculpt as I would expect it to... That makes me suspicious as there is a distinct and noticeable varied degree of "accuracy" between his armor and his helmet...
Then why is it there on TM's helmet? If as you say TM is this genious sculpter that can capture the trooper likeness so close he can't see this obvious bump on his prestine sculpt?
The location is telling for me, you claim it moves I don't agree with that IMO any perceived movment is simply a result of lighting angles...
And what are the odds of coincidence of a completely new sculpt having a nearly identical surface abnomality in the same location?
If I was to choose the more likely scenerio I would go with it being overlooked while cleaning then the astronomical improbability of it being recreated on a new sculpt...
Nope, but, subtle tells and minor things to me are very telling in this hobby in regards to recast items since in most cases the recaster is out to cover the obvious signs of recasting, the little missed details are usually what catches my eyes...
Sure they can, and there have been many examples, and in most of those cases the artist is more then willing to supply progress pictures, field questions on it's origin and talk up a storm about how he/she did it... Generally an artist is proud his work and will talk about it and defend it to no end, most don't bury their head in ground when questions are asked and then run out the door in a fit...
As I remember there were some early photos posted of his sculpts at a preliminary stage when he was doing his suit, and yes the accusations of it being a recast were almost immediate once he showed the final product...
You're right,SSkunky! I'm just kidding!:$ Too many off topic posts here,including mine!:lol
Must be the lawyer coming out cos the statements are changing, they now weigh equal between new sculpt or recast before it was leaning to recast.
That's the big thing you keep overlooking the helmet isn't just right it's far from just right.
Use your eyes to look at the helmet rather than Gino's insistance.
Show me anther half dozen with it i might be able to take it seriously.
I don't claim it moves go back and look for yourself and we aren't talking .5mm or something.
What are the odds that only two helmets produced out of lord knows how many by TM having this bump ?
And read your own wording "nearly identical" "same location"
It's not even in the same location on the two TM's.
That tell is about as subtle as a lime green suit at a funeral to anyone looking for tells.
Did it catch your eye ? oh i thought it was Gino that posted up about it are you sure it wasn't just Gino saying it that caught your eye ?
Hardly seems a point posting images again that he has already posted before does there ?
No, your question was in regards to the differences in the TM helmet, in this and only this point of why there are differences I believe that both conclusions are viable and equal...
Not that the whole picture is equally weighed, just this one point...
I have and no his helmet isn't just right, it differs, but IMO the subtle and near identical similarities are what bothers me...
Well go get them, as I have said previously based on what has been provided, I draw my conclusions, not on 'what ifs' or stuff I have not seen...
Who says only two helmets have this bump? I see nothing presented to support that only two have it, just that two example have been shown... How many have been shown without it?
Already explained what I contribute this to...
OFF THE KEYBOARD!! ......NOW!!! ........BAD KITTY!
lol
Ill post one last time, although I said I wouldn't...
Its all moot now. Gino won, TM is banned. It doesn't matter if his helmet is recast or sculpted, fact is Gino got what he wanted. He pushed us all in to posting up pics, twisting things around and ridiculing others to lower their standards to his even though from the get go Gino is always right. I am even guilty of mudslinging in this crud.
Karma has a way Gino. Spitting hate a fire will some day turn around on you.
Gino is doing this for we allow him to. The RPF itself is putting up with it.
You are right Def... Only 2 helmets had the bump. And of that one never identified. Who is to say if that was even a TM lid? But though 7 pages of nastiness that bump pushed TM over the edge for Gino's accusations can do that to people. Damn. Not a single helmet of anyone that posted here has the damn bump. Hero or Stunt, old or new. Save for Ghosts painted one. I pulled my pics though, they are not needed any more. Its over.
It hasn't been the first time, Look back at Gino's topics. He has done this before. The called out GH and DarkShadow. These were before my time here, but it is easy to go review them. The cry was then that it was bad form. No more "smoking gun" evidance presented here than those threads, but in the end TM cracked.
Shame really. You could post quotes from those threads right here and they would fit right in. From the same folk in a lot of cases.
Yippee Gino. Sis Boom Bah.
The thing that bothers me is lack of photo evidence on a build up. Ive sculpted many things before and not taken photos of them but if I were going to try and sculpt a accurate trooper helmet and I knew the history of it on these forums, wouldnt you WANT to cover your ass by showing progress pictures???? etc etc
The thing that bothers me is lack of photo evidence on a build up. Ive sculpted many things before and not taken photos of them but if I were going to try and sculpt a accurate trooper helmet and I knew the history of it on these forums, wouldnt you WANT to cover your ass by showing progress pictures???? etc etc
I too missed all the fireworks...
I have no idea what happened, just the announcement that he was banned for a slew of infractions that provided him an express ban... And that is what really put the final nail in the coffin for me...
Small differences in focal lenghts don't modify the profile of the faceplate.